Smiley and West take Obama critique on the road

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bliss, Aug 9, 2011.

  1. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    And so it's begun...

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    By JESSE WASHINGTON
    The Associated Press
    July 22, 2011

    Black activists Cornel West and Tavis Smiley are planning a 15-city "Poverty Tour" to bring attention to the needy and to what they say are the failings of President Barack Obama.

    West, a Princeton University professor, and Smiley, host of a PBS talk show, expect to begin the bus trip Aug. 5 at a Native American reservation in Wisconsin. With visits to soup kitchens, housing projects, farms, families and low-wage workers, they say they hope to create momentum for large-scale job creation programs and put poverty on the 2012 election agenda.

    Smiley said that as budgets are cut in Washington, "poor people are being rendered invisible." Obama and Congress must pay more attention, he said.

    "It's not just about the president," Smiley said. "Having said this, it would be nice to hear the president say the word 'poor.' To say the word 'poverty.' We get conversations about the middle class. Well, the new poor are the former middle class. But we can't get this president or any leaders to say the words 'poor' or 'poverty,' much less do anything about it."

    Although their tour does not have a specific racial focus, "you can't ignore that black people are catching the most hell in this recession," Smiley said.

    Kevin Lewis, a White House spokesman, said the administration has several programs to create jobs in underserved communities, such as the Urban Entrepreneurship Forum and Minority Business Development Agency. "Reducing unemployment for all Americans, which disproportionately burdens the African-American community, remains a priority for the president and his administration," Lewis said.

    Smiley and West, who also co-host a radio show, have been persistent and harsh critics of Obama, saying he has prioritized Wall Street and big corporations at the expense of the poor and working class. "That's why I feel profoundly disappointed and in some sense betrayed," said West, who campaigned for Obama in 2008.

    Their criticism has drawn scorn from a wide swath of African-Americans who are protective of the first black president and believe Obama would alienate essential white voters by focusing on black problems. Some also believe Smiley and West are motivated by personal issues such as invitations declined, calls unreturned, or inauguration tickets not provided by Obama.

    In an interview with Obama that aired Friday on NPR, host Michel Martin mentioned West's labeling of the president as a "black mascot of Wall Street oligarchs," and she asked Obama if he has a special responsibility to look out for black people.

    "I have a special responsibility to look out for the interests of every American," Obama responded. "That's my job as President of the United States. I wake up every morning trying to promote the kind of policies that are going to make the biggest difference for the most number of people."

    Obama also discussed protecting "the core commitments that we make to the most vulnerable" in the deficit-cutting talks.

    In 2008, the huge turnout of black voters was crucial to Obama's election. There is no indication that they are abandoning him now, and polls do not offer evidence that dissatisfaction is growing.

    Yet Warren Ballentine, a nationally syndicated black talk radio host, senses a rising discontent among his listeners.

    "Black folks expected him to fix the problem," he said. "The problem is lack of jobs and opportunity in poor communities in this country. They're blaming the president for not having jobs, but they don't want Tavis or Cornel or anyone else to attack the president because they didn't have jobs before the president came into office."

    "They believed that because the president was one of them, he would understand how to create jobs for them," Ballentine said.

    In the Amsterdam News, a black newspaper in New York City, columnist Jonathan Hicks recently wrote of an "undeniable schism ... within the minds and hearts of many African-Americans."

    "There is a deep sense of pride in the historic accomplishment of Obama's presidency, and a recognition that it remains, to many, nothing short of a miracle. More than anything, we want him to succeed. Yet, there are aspects to his presidency that cause us to pause," Hicks wrote. "There is little rhetoric from Obama — let alone action — that is aimed at alleviating the stubborn, unrelenting crisis of unemployment."

    Mary Frances Berry, a University of Pennsylvania history professor and former chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, said she has noticed more black frustration with Obama "in the barbershop, on the street with people. And among my own relatives."

    "Everybody likes Obama in the African-American community," Berry said. "But when they see the unemployment numbers, they have friends and relatives getting put out in the street, they don't have jobs and can't find jobs, everyone starts trying to make excuses — Obama can't do anything by himself, he can't get Congress to go along."

    "But after they say that over and over again and it gets worse — and it is getting worse — you get some mumblings and grumblings."

    On their bus trip, Smiley and West will travel through Hayward, Eau Claire and Madison, Wis.; Milwaukee; Chicago's South Side; Joliet and Pembroke, Ill.; Lima, Ohio; Charleston, West Virginia; Washington, D.C.; Atlanta; Birmingham, Ala.; Columbus and Clarksdale, Miss.; and finish in Memphis.
    http://www.povertytour.smileyandwest.com/
     
  2. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    actually its a self promotion tour for smiley and cornel. they dont give a rats ass about anybody. fuck them punks
     
  3. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    This right here. Black people in a nutshell. Don't let the smoke and mirrors and bullshit fool you.

    You say "Poverty Tour," I say "crabs in a barrel."
     
  4. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    better yet, call it "smiley-cornel smoke and mirrors" tour
     
  5. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    What about, "heads buried in the sand"?

    Do you think this has no merit?...

    "There is a deep sense of pride in the historic accomplishment of Obama's presidency, and a recognition that it remains, to many, nothing short of a miracle. More than anything, we want him to succeed. Yet, there are aspects to his presidency that cause us to pause," Hicks wrote. "There is little rhetoric from Obama — let alone action — that is aimed at alleviating the stubborn, unrelenting crisis of unemployment."

    I think White people are feeling this pause, too. I'm not saying it's deliberate on his behalf, just that it's a real problem...employment is people's LIVEHOOD. Men get a sense of self from providing for their families...it's seriously fucking with the mindset of a lot of prideful men who CAN'T find employment, because it's not available.
     
  6. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    LOL. I just know the scoop on these fools.
     
  7. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Shooting the messenger? Gotta love all these sayings, lol.
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2011
  8. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    dude, they have a show together. cornel felt dissed by obama when he didnt get invitations to a function for the obamas. tavis is in the same " I felt dissed" boat.

    no matter what they say....no true black man is gonna listen to em.
     
  9. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    LOL. yeah. the problem is the messengers. they got a hidden agenda
     
  10. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    I will check first fool. besides isnt hilter your boy
     
  11. velkrum

    velkrum Banned

    according to goodlove....only certain people can tell the truth.

    If a police station is on fire and an ex con is screaming "CALL THE FIRE DEPT" as witnesses watch the building burn we shouldn't listen because the ex con has a hidden agenda.
     
  12. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

  13. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    cornel on obama :

    Focusing on Obama and race, West said: “I think my dear brother Barack Obama has a certain fear of free black men .?.?. It’s understandable. As a young brother who grows up in a white context, brilliant African father, he’s always had to fear being a white man with black skin. All he has known culturally is white. He is just as human as I am, but that is his cultural formation.”

    the article goes on to point out :



    West’s comments, which continued in a Tuesday night interview on MSNBC, intensified the criticism of Obama that began after the election. During the 2008 campaign, West said, he traveled to 65 campaign events for the presidential candidate. But West complains that he was not given inauguration tickets for his brother and mother and that Obama did not return his phone calls

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ican-americans/2011/05/18/AFlGTf6G_story.html

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    I have no use for cornel. fuck that bitch ass mofo.

    so you so called educated and informed BM what the fuck that suppose to mean
     
  14. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    While GL refuses to believe there is even a problem, I think most of the chronically poor fall into this perspective below....

     
  15. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    I didnt say there wasnt a problem. where did I say that ?

    I said that the tour was self promoting . dumbass
     
  16. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    for you morons here is my post...what are you people talking about
     
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2011
  17. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

    Kunoichi, we're going to go through a rough patch, but afterwards, things will be better for us.
     
  18. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    really, all of the sudden you cant figure out what to say because you guys found out your reading comprehension sucks
     
  19. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

    That's your opinion, Goodlove. That isn't a fact.
     
  20. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member


    Yet when Cornell says essentially the same thing about Obama's agenda (towards the poor)...you have a problem.
     

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