Was this meant to be some sort of 'support" for Obama? Because I wonder how he would receive it if Obama said "Sam's acting don't mean shit to me - I only go watch his weak acting cause he's Black." Plus how does he explain the white people who voted for Obama, if its "pure and simple" only for who looks like them. Oh that's right, Whites voted for BO's "White" side, I forgot.
LOL - I look at these statements as an extension of his over-the-top persona in all of the movies in which he acts. In most of his roles, he is essentially playing an extension of himself, or some sort of caricature of what an angry black man is supposed to be. And let's be honest, that caricature has been just as embraced by white as black audiences, to great benefit for Mr. Jackson.
I tend to tune out celebrities who have not "put their money where their mouths are" when it comes to social/political activism... Mr. Jackson's statement comes off as described above and I have to wonder if it's part of the persona he's noted for or a play to the camera and audience that has come to expect the kind of four letter irreverent diatribes he consistently delivers when the mike is on. I'm sure there was a small percentage of people who voted in the last presidential election based on racial/ethnic beliefs, just as there are those who vote staunchly Republican or Democrat, regardless of issue or platform and others who were hyped by fear or personal motivations. I'd like to think of artists' political comments as hypertensive. Taken with a grain of salt, and one is worse off.... lol :smt036 Avoidance is a healthier alternative. What's really sad is the U.S., for all it's suppose to stand for, is still in the dark ages when it comes to race relations and the great divide between rich and poor...
most people i know voted for him because he was black first, and his agenda second everyone was getting tired of seeing the same old white men in that position it was either vote for Barack or vote for a woman (Hillary)
The fact that he is black is partially the reason I voted for him, but not simply because he's black. He's black and, imo, a good role model for young black men, and someone who could bat down some of the stereotypes white people hold about BM. I also could get on board with his agenda. I thought he had the right idea about many things that were important to me. I didn't agree with some things, but I don't think you ever find anyone who lines up perfectly with what you believe in. Voting for someone simply because he/she is a certain color or gender is foolish, imo. I need to believe in what that person stands for or what he/she hopes to accomplish while in office.
Maybe I didn't word it correctly. This is the first time I voted Democratic and it's because I liked BO's platform and I also thought, as a BM, he would serve as a good role model. If I couldn't support him in a major way, I wouldn't have voted for him simply because he is black.
I completely disagree with the analogy. When a woman is pregnant, she doesn't carry the psychological/social/economic burden of 400 years of violence and hatred vis-a-vis cute vs. healthy babies. It's perfectly human for a person to want to see an end (or at least a step toward the end) to the complete distortion and deformation of Western society based on the dehumanization of black and indigenous people for land and wage theft, as well as to harbor an abhorrence of the continued malignant effects of that history on the present day. That being said, I voted for him because I worked with him 10 years ago, know the guy and have an immense respect for his intellect, as well as the fact that my former client/boss was a supporter/friend. I am not happy with what I take to be his preoccupation with centrism, however. I find it too... Clinton-esque.
I do not feel that the market should be the arbiter of all human values and society. It is NOT the best allocator of resources. It is the best allocator of those resources for private gain. The private sector and the marketplace are best for the allocation of private goods (televisions, cars, mass-produced junk that people don't really need, read: manufactured wants). The public sector (not meaning the current underwhelming pack of public servants on offer) is, in my opinion, a far better allocator of public goods: air, water, education, health, transportation infrastructure, the like). All things finite on which the human species and the planet depend should not be left to the whim of a small group of individuals whose sole motivation is private profit.
I liked his vision, if not his methods, (social justice) and his promise to end the war in Iraq. I don't support him on moral issues.
don't defend yourself. the guy you are talking to is a troll who regurgitates conservative talking points.
I don't agree with the troll part. He's had some good things to say in other threads. I probably wasn't very clear on what I was trying to say and I'm still not. When I listened to Obama speak vs McCain, McCain seemed so...impersonal. He didn't make alot of sense to me. And I liked him (he was a POW and I read alot about the Vietnam war and read some of his story). While I am conservative and a Republican, I felt like Obama had goals and a vision for what would help make things better for the average "Joe," if that makes sense. I like his idea of health care for everyone, however implementing that is a whole different ballgame. I don't have alot of specifics I can spout off for Paniro, just that Obama resonated with me when I listened to him speak. As I said before, I disagree with him on moral issues, and that's because of my faith background. So I'm torn in my political beliefs - I'm morally conservative, but the issues that the Democratic party tries to address are important to me too because they seem to want to make things like healthcare, jobs and quality education available for everyone. I had a friend at the time, who was instrumental in educating me on Obama's agenda. He worked for Acorn (before the big brouhaha) and MoveOn.org and also worked at the grass-roots level of the Obama campaign. To be honest, in prior elections, I kind of blindly voted Republican. This last election, I really listened and followed both candidates and made a choice based on what spoke to me. Sometimes, I just go with my gut.
I rarely agree or defend you but don't apologize for a fucking thing. Paniro spews ridiculous horseshit when it comes to politics especially Obama. He uses terms he doesn't know the definition of communism or socialism. I wish he'd actually look that shit up and point out which one of Obama's policies are really communist or socialist. Considering the two options at the time he was the best man for the job period.