How common do you think sex between Black male slaves and White females was during

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by AfroLove, Nov 20, 2009.

  1. LA

    LA Well-Known Member

    Tell that to Mandingo and his bevy of groupies.
     
  2. idear987

    idear987 New Member


    Mandingo isn't a slave
     
  3. LA

    LA Well-Known Member

    He wasn't?

    I'm talkin about the original Mandingo.

    Not the porn star.
     
  4. Tony Soprano

    Tony Soprano Moderator

    :smt042
     
  5. charmer

    charmer Member

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    I think it was somewhat common with white women being very curious and flirting a lot with black slaves when the master was away. They probably even engaged in sex, and if they got caught, they had to claim it was rape.
     
  6. Hey All,

    The following article relates to the birth of twins with different fathers (yes, it can happen.) I have highlighted a section of the story about one of the first cases of this and it falls well within the US slavery timeframe.

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    Mother gives birth to twins with different dads
    ‘One-in-a-million’ occurrence involves two eggs and two different fathers


    A Texas woman wasn't planning on two conceptions for the record books.

    But that's what she got — along with two beautiful boys — when she gave birth to twins of different fathers nearly a year ago.

    "Both of them have similar appetites. They like to play with their older brothers. They like to play with each other," Mia Washington told the TODAY show Thursday.

    Talk about baby-papa drama.

    Their two dads
    How did it happen? Every month a woman's ovary releases one egg that can be fertilized by one sperm. But in this case, a pair of eggs emerged.

    Sperm, meanwhile, can remain alive and well and viable for up to five days in the reproductive tract. Thus a woman can have sex with different men within those five days and the sperm “just kind of hang out there waiting for the egg to be released,” Dr. Hilda Hutcherson, Clinical Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology at Columbia University, told Meredith Vieira on TODAY.

    Washington, who just turned 20, admitted to her partner that she had sex with another man within that five-day window — hence, the double conception.

    The mystery began to be solved when her partner, 44-year-old James Harrison, became concerned that Justin and Jordan, born only 7 minutes apart, looked so different. A paternity test followed.

    When he discovered that Justin wasn’t his son, Harrison said, "I was hurt, torn apart — didn't know what the next move was gonna be," Harrison said in a taped NBC News segment.

    Nonetheless, he's loved both boys the same since then. "I raised him [Justin] from a baby all the way to now. He knows me as his father, and I know him as my son," Harrison explained.

    Brotherly love
    The boys, meanwhile, know each other as brothers. "They're growing in the same environment," Washington said, "and they're getting to know each other and play with each other."

    Indeed, the bonding that will grow between the fraternal half-brothers will be the same, said Dr. Hutcherson, who writes monthly sexual health columns in Essence and Glamour magazines and is an online advisor for Parents Magazine and Glamour.

    "The babies won't know the difference," she said.

    Such occurrences are rare — as rare one in a million, say some. Yet Hutcherson said some studies have shown that 1 to 2 percent of all fraternal twins have different dads. It just doesn't get noticed sometimes.

    The technical term is twins by different fathers is "heteropaternal superfecundation." The first case was reported by John Archer — the first doctor to receive a medical degree in the United States — in 1810.

    According to Archer, a white woman who had sex with a black man and a white man within a short time later gave birth to twins: one white, the other of mixed race.


    Washington and Harrison, who are both African-American, say they intend to marry someday. They said they also plan on telling the kids the entire story when they're old enough to grasp it.

    Besides its amazing twist, the story also has a mystery: The other father's identity isn't being released. And it has a surprise: Washington, who has a 4-year-old son from a different father, says the clan will grow even larger in August.

    "They're gonna have a baby sister," she said.

    URL: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/30864533/ns/parenting_and_family/
     
  7. Set during the Great Depression but this is what you're looking for.

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  8. She married him? Poor bastard was SO looking forward to his freedom, too..

    :D
     
  9. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Well-Known Member

    From what I've read and heard through the years, WW and BM relations were not that uncommon during the early years of blacks and whites in this country (1619 till sometime during the early 1700's)...especially when blacks were not automatically seen as inferior and when there were plenty of Africans that only had to deal with being indentured slaves instead of permanent slaves. Eventually it became completely taboo...and what kept it from happening (moreso than lynching) was the fact that during slavery, children were supposed to take the condition of their mother. Obviously this is advantageous for WM because they can have 100 children out of wedlock and not have to worry about any of them having a legitimate claim to their estate...unless they wanted the children to have it. WW on the other hand posed a problem when having liasons with black men because the products of those relationships would become free even if the black man was a slave.

    I honestly think it became far more taboo after slavery. During slavery (with the exception of periods of mass fear i.e., Nat Turner's Rebellion) slaves (even of the Mandingo variety) were viewed as immature and childlike...almost harmless except for bouts of laziness and malingering. After slavery, black men were free (sort of) and so the game went from one of condescension toward black men to one of bloodthirsty hostility.
     
  10. Blacktiger2005

    Blacktiger2005 Well-Known Member

    I say less common than it was between black women and white men. In fact, in many areas of the South today white men consider it a badge of honor to reach manhood to screw black women. No wonder the black male in the South was and is emasculated to this day..
     
  11. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    The Mandingo stories were written by Kyle Onstott. His stories full of IR sex makes someone thinks it was rampant especially the ones between ww and bm. In spite of the fact that two movies Mandingo and Drum and many books published there is nothing about him on Google. In the agrarian world of the South and elsewhere such sexual relations happen. It is the ones who are caught by White men and written in court records that make the most attention.
     
  12. Sonny Dragon

    Sonny Dragon Well-Known Member

    I know it happened during the first 10 minutes of that movie Rosewood.
     
  13. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

    Good find, guys. I plan on buying the book on Amazon soon and reading it. Knowledge is power. I'll start off by buying Volume 1, "Negro-Caucasian mixing in all ages and all lands."
     
  14. ReginaStar

    ReginaStar New Member

    I'm sure it happend but not nearly at the same rate as WM/BW. In the 1600's many mulatto children were the products of white women. They were free and the proposed a problem. It's believed that Becans rebellions is what caused them to segregate the races and passes laws against interracial marriage in VA. Most AA's today that are able to trace back there family to a WW will trace her back to the 1600's. There was melungeon communities as the result of the descendants.

    Although it may have happend I have doubts it happend at large especially not anywere it was illegal. I mean I can see oral sex and that sort of thing going on but back then women would get pregnant and even the women could be hung. White males tried their damndest to prevent the white woman from sleeping with black men.
     
  15. LA

    LA Well-Known Member

    In regards to that statement ^ Considering the way things are going now, seems not much has changed since that time period.
     
  16. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    That was black woman and white male.
     
  17. LaydeezmanCris

    LaydeezmanCris New Member


    *dead*
     
  18. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Obviously it wasn't as common as white slavemasters raping Black female slaves, but how hard is it to believe that if the wife of an affluent plantation owner summoned a Black male slave to her quarters during the night when her husband was away on business, she expected him to do more than 'pick cotton'??

    Women have a libido too, and powerful women have slept with their subordinates since the beginning of time.
     
  19. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    someone's been watching 'Spartacus'

    ole girl told him (Crixis) don't stop until he spilled his seed, and threatened to kill his ass if he snitched
     
  20. MissWacy

    MissWacy New Member

    oh they still are using scare tactics on white girls, even on some campuses they have tried to use thier little lies to keep white girls from black guys, but it gets seen for what it really is
     

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