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Old 07-14-2013, 08:08 PM   #51
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Joking......But to get serious for a second, Just like football players except that they are more likely to get concussions, porn people should except that STDs are a fact of the profession they CHOSE.
No. They shouldn't expect contracting STDs or injuries as part of the territory. The performers have a choice to say NO to anything they are not comfortable with. Unfortunately, it is about the money and some companies do not give a tinker's damn about the performer, but do care about their profits since they are putting the money into the production. What Jessie Rogers and the other young woman who has contracted HPV and herpes are saying to the companies is let the environment be safe. Let us use condoms as well as a modicum of common sense for all who enter into this business.
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Old 07-14-2013, 09:44 PM   #52
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I'm sorry, but if I choose to be a firefighter for a living, I expect that I may get burned. If I choose to be a police officer for a living, I expect that I may get shot. If I choose to fuck for a living, I expect that my dick might fall off.

If the producer will not allow you to use a condom, don't do the video.

If you cannot accept the risks of your profession, maybe choose another?
Police officers get vests and firefighters get flame resistant clothing so by your logic condoms should be used then right?
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Old 07-14-2013, 11:00 PM   #53
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No. They shouldn't expect contracting STDs or injuries as part of the territory. The performers have a choice to say NO to anything they are not comfortable with. Unfortunately, it is about the money and some companies do not give a tinker's damn about the performer, but do care about their profits since they are putting the money into the production. What Jessie Rogers and the other young woman who has contracted HPV and herpes are saying to the companies is let the environment be safe. Let us use condoms as well as a modicum of common sense for all who enter into this business.

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Police officers get vests and firefighters get flame resistant clothing so by your logic condoms should be used then right?

I totally agree, porn performers have the right to be safe. However, there is a reason that the producers of porn are reluctant to use condoms. A lot of porn consumers really dislike the site of condoms on performers. And that in turn will shrink profits. The industry is already reeling from the glut of free porn on the internet, so they cant really afford to suffer anymore financial blows.

The performers are going to have to way their health over possibly costing themselves employment.
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I totally agree, porn performers have the right to be safe. However, there is a reason that the producers of porn are reluctant to use condoms. A lot of porn consumers really dislike the site of condoms on performers. And that in turn will shrink profits. The industry is already reeling from the glut of free porn on the internet, so they cant really afford to suffer anymore financial blows.

The performers are going to have to way their health over possibly costing themselves employment.
That's horseshit that's like saying factory workers should just deal with bad conditions even at the cost of their health because its getting more expensive to manufacture here. These are human beings. Damn
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That's horseshit that's like saying factory workers should just deal with bad conditions even at the cost of their health because its getting more expensive to manufacture here. These are human beings. Damn
Having sex on camera isn't exactly the same as working in a slaughter house.

Nobody is denying the performers the right to work with condoms, they just have to come to grips with the facts of the business. And those facts are that the consumer, (who are ultimately the ones paying the performers) Don't like condoms.

So like I said the performers can work with condoms but they risk losing money.
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Having sex on camera isn't exactly the same as working in a slaughter house.

Nobody is denying the performers the right to work with condoms, they just have to come to grips with the facts of the business. And those facts are that the consumer, (who are ultimately the ones paying the performers) Don't like condoms.

So like I said the performers can work with condoms but they risk losing money.
Why isn't it the same as working in a slaughter house? Risk is risk.
I think it stems from this idea that if you're doing porn you're not really worth much and its wrong. And trust me on this people will still pay for porn. People used to jerk off to scrambled fuzzy images off their illegal cable boxes they'll still pay to watch a pretty girl get fucked. I don't like watching porn with condoms but if its all there is trust me I'll still at the computer with my lotion lol
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Why isn't it the same as working in a slaughter house? Risk is risk.
I think it stems from this idea that if you're doing porn you're not really worth much and its wrong. And trust me on this people will still pay for porn. People used to jerk off to scrambled fuzzy images off their illegal cable boxes they'll still pay to watch a pretty girl get fucked. I don't like watching porn with condoms but if its all there is trust me I'll still at the computer with my lotion lol
Hey, it's not my personal stance. I'm just laying out what the porn producers have stated. As for people getting used to condoms in porn. Some people might just adapt, but most people are pretty set on what gets their rocks off. So i'm betting what we will see is a rapidly growing "extreme" genre were the more risky performers still work condom free.
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Thump is correct about the industry's view on condoms.

I'm surprised that with today's use in heavily using CGI in mainstream movies, that the porn industry has not adopted that practice with their films.

They can easily delete condoms using computers. They can even simulate penetration using CGI.
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The industry is beholden to the male porn fans with their dominant fantasies. As a fan with discerning tastes, and as someone who is specific about what I want to watch, if I enjoy a performer, I'd want to see that performer again. I'd like to see that performer healthy. The performer is not just working for that company, the performer is working for all of their fans. A condom is not going to hurt anything, unless they are shooting a period piece where condoms were not invented. But, I'd like to see that performer again. But, with the internet and free internet porn sites, the industry is losing money by the bushel. Performers have jumped on the internet and are doing their own thing. Ordinary folks are making money every month by posting webcams of their sexual activities. They may not use condoms, but they are in an environment that is familiar to them.And if they are having sex, it is with someone they know and trust.

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Police officers get vests and firefighters get flame resistant clothing so by your logic condoms should be used then right?
Not my logic at all, but I'll entertain that for a second; Police still die to gunshots and firefighters still die in the line of duty, porn stars get tested and still get STD's.

My logic is that everybody knows the dangers of their chosen profession. It is up to the companies producing the porn to determine if they want condoms used in their videos. If they determine that it will hurt their bottom line they have every right to deny them to their "actors". If the "actors" have a problem with it, do not take the job. OR, find a different profession.

At the end of the day, they are choosing this profession and they are accepting the jobs that deny them condoms. Orrrrr did I miss the part where someone put a gun to their heads?

EDIT: .... actually, I'm about to go jerk off to some free condomless porn right now.
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