Bernie Sanders guarantees government jobs

Lest you guys think I'm talking out of my ass. I love posting links and cites. Turns out she lost to an evil, neoliberal, corporate Dem. Awwww. https://nypost.com/2018/03/06/bernie-sanders-stepdaughter-loses-bid-for-mayor/

 

Especially emotional dudes who deny being emotional.

 

Don't you think that's overstating the case a bit?

 

No.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...lines-some-requests-for-docs-in-senate-russia

http://www.city-data.com/forum/elections/2626614-jill-stein-also-too-scared-release.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-jill-stein-presidential-campaigns/348051002/

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/16/bernie-sanders-russia-2016-election-interference-415691

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38966846

Enjoy.

 

The city.data.com site is just a forum, like this one. Not a primary, or even secondary, source. The Russians attempting to help someone does not mean or prove that they're a Russian agent, simply that they have a desired outcome. That's no different than the US preferring one candidate to another in any given election.

 

LOL @ your focus on citydata while ignoring the other links. Google is your friend, you're free to source the links you find credible.

Are you actually sitting here condoning Russian interference in a US election? You weren't kidding when you said you were a Marxist. Which is weird because even Russians aren't Marxist anymore

 

An independent candidate losing a bid for mayor is more of a referendum on the stogged devotion to the two-party system than it is a rejection of Bernie Sanders's politics. Third party candidates have a built-in hill to climb that is very difficult to overcome. Bernie Sanders succeeded in spite of his status as an independent, and the only reason he stood a chance in the 2016 election was that he ran as a Democrat.

 

He said prove it Lmao.

Prove that water is wet.

 

Spreading misinformation via media sources is not "interference". Every entity on the planet spreads information to reinforce its point of view, especially the US government and businesses. It's called advertising, marketing, PR, or to be more sinister, propaganda. I do not support the US complaining about something it routinely does to others, yet expects not to have done to it. The only interference I would object to is actual manipulation of voting technology. People are free to lie online as much as they want. It's up to the informed voter to know what to believe.

As for Russians, my Marxism is not informed by the Soviet experience at all, not in the least. Zero. Even the most casual student of economics knows that the Soviet debacle had zero to do with actual Marxist economics and everything to do with Bolsheviks seizing power and using the name of the theory to draw peasant and worker support.

As for the links, let's proceed:
1) The Hill article, if read carefully, mentions that the refusal to comply with documents does nothing to corroborate guilt. Her attorney has objected to some aspects of discovery as overbroad, particularly her political platform with regard to Russia as a nation. That is a freedom of speech issue. Having a friendly or adversarial posture toward a nation has nothing to do with whether or not you received campaign finance from them or are acting as an unregistered agent (which are actual legal violations). From the article itself: "According to The Intercept, Stein's campaign has already turned over communications with members of the Russian government and media, but has yet to release communication records with "all people of Russian descent."

2) city.data.com: see previous post

3) "Russians tried to help..." is the title, not "Jill Stein collaborates with..." Again, every nation has a foreign policy and supports candidates it thinks are better for it. The Russians can also have a candidate preference if they perceive one candidate as likely to start a war and others less so. Clinton - Putin mutual hostility is (and has long been) widely known. To expect them to have no policy preference is absurd. If they electronically manipulate voting technology, that should be addressed. Them cleverly engineering fake news only shows, if successful (as it is generally thought to be, at least in sufficient numbers to sway voters in key counties of the swing states), how stupid the average voter is. If we want more informed voters, a better approach would be to improve the educational system rather than training people to be cogs/drones in the postindustrial system that will have little use for their labor. But then again, that would require you to actually care about the working people of the society, rather than seeing them as simple industrial inputs for business.

4) The headline, while attempting to titillate, fails miserably upon a cursory read. "“It has been clear to everyone (except Donald Trump) that Russia was deeply involved in the 2016 elections and intends to be involved in the 2018 elections. It is the American people who should be deciding the political future of our country, not Mr. Putin and the Russian oligarchs,” Sanders said in a statement. “It is absolutely imperative that the Mueller investigation be allowed to go forward without obstruction from the Trump administration or Congress.”

It's clear from the statement that Sanders is opposed to Russian manipulation of electoral outcomes. Nothing about that is indicative of a VIOLATION of federal election law. Again, nations are free to pursue their foreign policy outcomes and every government on the planet has a preference as to which individual it would prefer in the White House. Complaints about others supporting candidates and meddling are hilarious when taken in the context of USAID and the multiple coups, propaganda campaigns and the like that the US is openly known to have engineered.
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5) I don't doubt for a minute that the Kremlin supports Trump. That's not illegal. Manipulating election outcomes is. So is Trump using his developments around the globe as a means of laundering oligarch and organized crime money, if this is found out to be the case. If so, he should face the full penalty for those crimes. What I will not do, however, is participate in the rightwing of the DNC's attempt to demonize those it lost to in a fight to seize power to do fundamentally what Trump is doing now, which is to empower and enrich elites and business at the expense of my friends, family, neighbors, fellow citizens and workers around the planet.

And for the record, I find the US government with its track record of racism, anti-worker policies and the like, just as odious as the Russian government. They are (as are most governments and businesses) collaborators in a shared project of enrichment of corporate elites at the expense of working people and the poor globally.

 

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