Respect where it's due: BM/WW IR in History

Discussion in 'The Attraction Between White Women and Black Men' started by Silvercosma, Nov 26, 2006.

  1. nobledruali

    nobledruali Well-Known Member

    Ah please just take it as a term that I used to compliment you for starting this thread. :)
     
  2. Silvercosma

    Silvercosma New Member

    [​IMG] Cool! Thanks again! [​IMG] back at you!!
     
  3. Silvercosma

    Silvercosma New Member

    His name is Bond, Julian Bond

    [​IMG]

    and he is married to Pamela Sue Horowitz
    [​IMG]

    Julian Bond was a founder of the Committee on Appeal for Human Rights (COAHR), a student civil rights organization that helped win integration of Atlanta's movie theaters, lunch counters, and parks. He formed the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC).

    Bond helped found the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) along with Morris Dees. He was the organization's president from 1971 to 1979 and today serves on its board of directors. The Southern Poverty Law Center works to protect legal rights and through the courts to protect the legal rights of the poor of all races. He was elected to his fourth term as the chairman of the National Board of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), the nation's oldest and largest civil rights organization.

    [​IMG]

    Bond was elected to the Georgia House of Representatives in 1966. During his service in the Georgia General Assembly, Bond was sponsor of more than 60 bills that became law, and he organized the Georgia Legislative Black Caucus, then the largest such group in the nation.

    In 1968, Bond was nominated for Vice President of the United States, the first black person to be so nominated by a major political party, though he withdrew his name because he was too young to serve.
    Pamela Sue Horowitz is a Washington lawyer.
    Read more here
     
  4. Silvercosma

    Silvercosma New Member

    Noel Martin and his wife Jacqueline

    [​IMG]

    Two German skinheads threw a lump of concrete at his car. Their motive was "explicit xenophobia," as a court later determined. The attack left Noel Martin paralyzed from the neck down.

    His wife Jacqueline was his constant companion and took care of him until she died of cancer, two days after they married. They have lived together for 18 years.

    [​IMG]

    After the attack, they established several charitable foundations against xenophobia and racism, such as the „Noel und Jacqueline Martin Fond“, the "Initiative Tolerantes Mahlow" and the "Aktion Noteingang". Despite his wheelchair, Noel Martin lead protest marches against violence, and, supported by Chancellor Gerhard Schröder, a rally against racism. He received the Peace Prize of Aachen in 2000.

    Noel Martin is going to commit medically assisted suicide July 23, 2007, his 48 birthday.
    [​IMG]
     
  5. Silvercosma

    Silvercosma New Member

    Martin Luther King, Jr.

    [​IMG]

    Martin Luther King, Jr. headed toward marriage to a young German-American woman he met while studying at Crozer seminary.

    In his Pulitzer Prizewinning book, "Bearing the Cross," David Garrow writes of an early King dilemma and a pastor's advice:

    King dated regularly during his Crozer years, but one of his companions, a white girl of German origin whose mother worked for Crozer raised concern in the eyes of Barbour and other friends ... Barbour heard about the couple's serious romantic involvement, and told King in no uncertain terms of the difficulties an interracial relationship would face ... If King wanted to return South to pastor, as he often said, an interracial marriage would create severe problems in the black community as well as the white ... Barbour insisted to King that marrying the young woman would be a tremendous mistake, and urged them to reconsider.

    Ironically, King heeded advice that promulgated the racial restrictions he is now famous for condemning. One cannot help but wonder how King's life might have proceeded had this pastoral counseling session not taken place.
    Read more here
     
  6. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    No question that J Edgar Hoover had photos of King with WW at motels along with racist comments by the FBI chief.
     
  7. nobledruali

    nobledruali Well-Known Member

    Other than the fellow student at Crozer, I haven't heard about any white women at the motel rooms. :shock:
     
  8. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    In those FBI files that are sealed you don't know if it is true.
     
  9. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    NobleD can you find something on Miles Davis? He had relationships with WW as well.
     
  10. nobledruali

    nobledruali Well-Known Member

    Yeah I just read your post about it. I'll see what I can dig up. :wink:
     
  11. Silvercosma

    Silvercosma New Member

    Miles Davis was in love with Juliette Gréco

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    'Sartre asked Miles why we weren't married. He said he loved me too much to make me unhappy'.(Juliette Greco)

    Miles Davis was just 22 when he met the actor, and later singer, Juliette Greco. In the week he would have turned 80, she celebrates their love affair.

    "And there I caught a glimpse of Miles, in profile: a real Giacometti, with a face of great beauty. I'm not even talking about the genius of the man: you didn't have to be a scholar or a specialist in jazz to be struck by him. .... He came to see me at my house a few months before he died. He was sitting in the drawing room and at one point I went to the verandah to look at the garden. I heard his devilish laugh. I asked him what had provoked it. "No matter where I was," he said, "in whatever corner of the world, looking at that back, I'd know it was you." Read full story here

    Was he with Jeanne Moreau too?

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  12. nobledruali

    nobledruali Well-Known Member

    :D Hey thanks for the lo-lo Silver because I did a little research on Miles and the white ladies and really didn't come up with much.
     
  13. Silvercosma

    Silvercosma New Member

    James Forman and his wife Constancia Dinky Romilly

    [​IMG]

    James Forman was a civil rights pioneer credited with organizing the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) and active leader in the Black Panther Party. In 1960, he joined the Congress of Racial Equality, providing relief services to sharecroppers in Tennessee who had been evicted for registering to vote. That same year, he met several of the Freedom Riders, joined the SNCC in 1961 and began working full time for the civil rights movement. He served as SNCC's executive secretary from 1964 to 1966. After stepping down as executive secretary, Forman remained close to the leadership of SNCC and the Black Panther Party, and, in 1967 taking a leadership position within the Panthers. In 1969, after the failure of the merger and the decline of SNCC, Forman began associating with other Black political radical groups. In Detroit he participated in the Black Economic Development Conference, to assist in increasing the economic development opportunities for black communities and where his "Black Manifesto" was adopted. He also founded a nonprofit organization called the Unemployment and Poverty Action Committee. Read more here

    Activist Constancia Dinky Romilly is a civil rights veteran, was a member of the SNCC and is the daughter of muckraking journalist and anti-fascist activist Jessica Mitford.

    [​IMG]
    James Forman, Martin Luther King Jr., C.T. Vivian, and Jesse Douglas Sr. march on the outskirts of Montgomery.

    [​IMG]
    James Forman leads singing in the SNCC office on Raymond Street in Atlanta. (From left) Mike Sayer, McArthur Cotton, Forman, Marion Barry, Lester MacKinney, Mike Thelwell, Lawrence Guyot, Judy Richardson, John Lewis, Jean Wheeler, and Julian Bond

    [​IMG]
    James Baldwin, Joan Baez, and James Forman (left to right) enter Montgomery, Alabama on the Selma to Montgomery march for voting rights, 1965.
     
  14. Silvercosma

    Silvercosma New Member

    James Brown and his wife Tommie Rae

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    He played a key role in the civil rights movement of the ‘60s and gave voice to a people discovering self-pride, economic freedom and political empowerment in the ‘70s.

    Beyond his musical contribution, there is Mr. Brown’s ongoing commitments to social causes: he has long been a spokesperson for the importance of education (expressed way back in 1966 through the message in his hit record “Don’t Be A Drop-Out,” which became the theme for a White House-sponsored stay-in-school campaign); and outspoken on the destruction wreaked by drug use (with 1972’s “King Heroin” a stark reminder of the consequences.

    As the most popular African-American entertainer of the ‘60s, it was Mr. Brown who helped quell a potentially-devastating riot in Boston in the wake of the April 1968 assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Mr. Brown was scheduled to perform the night after the civil rights leader’s tragic murder and then Boston Mayor Kevin White appealed to the entertainer who insisted that his show be televised as a way to keep the streets of the city safe.

    It was Mr. Brown who performed “Say It Loud I’m Black And I’m Proud” at former President Nixon’s inauguration and of his work as a leader in the ‘60s struggle for justice, freedom and equality, he told “The New Yorker” in 2002, “I was out there with Dr. King, I was out there with Malcolm X, I was out there with Mr. Abernathy, and I knew a lot of people – trying to make it better.”

    As he stated in the opening statement for the liner notes for “Star Time,” the 1991 box set, “God had a special job for me. He gave me a special talent to relate to people of all cultures. I found that the common denominator among people was love. Because regardless of all the obstacles which we fight…it all boils down to the love factor. And I believe I was able to create that in my life.” Through his leadership, his tireless contribution to social causes but more than anything else, through his music as the true “King Of Funk” and of course, “Godfather Of Soul.”
    Read more here

    May he rest in peace.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. nobledruali

    nobledruali Well-Known Member

    :arrow: :wink: On point and very informative as usual Silver. Thanks :!:

    Sad about the GODFATHER OF SOUL and for his wife too because I just heard on the news that they padlocked her out of their home :!: :shock: The man is not even in the grave yet and they already are starting with the bullshyt. :x
     
  16. Lexington

    Lexington New Member

    I read that too. It's unclear if they were actually married since it was revealed she never divorced her prior husband before marrying JB. I thought they had remarried, but know it was a very tumultuous relationship and that's why I'm assuming they locked her to prevent her from removing any items. Plus she admits her name is not on the deed to the property. I think they're trying to prevent what happened to Lou Rawls' estate.
     
  17. Silvercosma

    Silvercosma New Member

    Really?? Dayum... I will never understand how people can do that. I'm sure he left a last will and everybody should respect that, his relatives as well as his wife, even if that means that some of them have to walk away with empty pockets. Why are people unable to deal with it with respect and dignity?
    Greed - the cause of all evil. :(
     
  18. Silvercosma

    Silvercosma New Member

    Sir Seretse Khama and his wife Ruth -- The love story that rocked the world...

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    Sir Seretse Khama was the first President of Botswana. He is internationally remembered for bringing peace and prosperity to the formative years of his nation.

    After marrying an English wife, Ruth Williams, in 1948, he was banned from the chieftainship and the territory of the Bamangwato. Allowed to return as a private citizen in 1956, he became an important member of the Ngwato Tribal Council, the African Advisory Council, and the Joint Advisory Council. He supported a motion for the introduction of a legislative council and spoke out strongly against racial discrimination. In 1961 Khama became a member of the new Legislative Council and was subsequently appointed to the Executive Council. In 1962 he was instrumental in founding the Bechuanaland Democratic party (BDP). In 1965 the BDP won the elections, and Seretse Khama became Prime Minister. The next year, Bechuanaland gained its independence from Britain. The new republic’s name was changed to Botswana, and Seretse Khama became its first President. He was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II in 1966.

    As the new leader, Sir Seretse Khama showed great determination to develop his poverty-stricken and drought-ravaged country. He achieved free universal education and tried to strengthen the nation's economy. His major challenge was South Africa. Despite an overwhelming economic dependence on its southern neighbor, Khama had always made clear his abhorrence of apartheid, South Africa's policy of racial apartness. He had even deported a South African citizen for making racist statements. Despite a fundamental difference of philosophy, however, Khama managed to maintain reasonably cordial relations with his powerful neighbor and at the same time preserve an undisputed independence. In time, even Khama's in-laws softened on the marriage and often visited the state house in Gaborone. Khama was reelected to successive terms and remained president of Botswana until his death on July 13, 1980.

    "We were taught, sometimes in a very positive way, to despise ourselves and our ways of life. We were made to believe that we had no past to speak of, no history to boast of. The past, so far as we were concerned, was just a blank and nothing more. Only the present mattered and we had very little control over it. It seemed we were in for a definite period of foreign tutelage, without any hope of our ever again becoming our own masters. The end result of all this was that our self-pride and our self-confidence were badly undermined. It should now be our intention to try to retrieve what we can of our past. We should write our own history books to prove that we did have a past, and that it was a past that was just as worth writing and learning about as any other. We must do this for the simple reason that a nation without a past is a lost nation, and a people without a past is a people without a soul." (Sir Seretse Khama, speech of Chancellor at University of Botswana, Lesotho and Swaziland graduation ceremony, 15 May 1970)
    Read more here here and here


    [​IMG]

    The love story that rocked the world...

    A new book on the controversial love affair between Botswana's first president, Sir Seretse Khama, and his British wife, Ruth, is set to be turned into a major film. Ruth and Seretse, which was written by veteran Zimbabwean journalist Wilf Mbanga and his wife, Trish, while they were in living in exile in the Netherlands, seeks to tell the story of the "cross-racial marriage that rocked the world".

    "There has been the telling of the love story of Anthony and Cleopatra, Romeo and Juliet - and now of Ruth and Seretse," says Mbanga.

    Khama made headlines in Britain and South Africa in the late 1940s when he met and married Ruth Williams, a white English commoner, while in London. Their union led to Khama's exile from the then-Bechuanaland by the British government in 1951. He was only allowed to return after he renounced his title to the throne. When Khama returned to Bechu-analand as a private citizen, he formed the Bechuanaland Democratic Party, who won the elections and paved the way for Botswana's independence. Khama became the country's first president in 1966 - a post he stayed in until his death in 1980.

    Khama is a "hero", says Mbanga, because he created a multiracial democratic society in Botswana. "He fought for majority rule in Botswana and he was knighted by Queen Elizabeth."

    But the royal romance also has resonance for the Mbangas who were themselves victimised in the then-Rhodesia for their cross-racial marriage. They were forced to move to a farm outside racially-segregated Salisbury when they married in 1978 as whites and blacks were not allowed to live together.

    "I can empathise with him. We have gone through some of the things that they went through. We met their families because we wanted to tell their story from their eyes - we wanted it to be a love story, not just a historical story. They were persecuted for loving each other and it caused them so much grief. In 1948 (South African) prime minister DF Malan denounced the British government for allowing the marriage to happen. But they were just two young people who fell in love - they weren't even politically aware," says Mbanga. A film company in Cape Town, where the Mbangas' daughter Rita works as a filmmaker, have bought the rights to the book, which is to be published later this year.
    Read more here
     
  19. nobledruali

    nobledruali Well-Known Member

    Again & again Silver please continue on with the enlightenment! Thank you very much. :D
     
  20. Silvercosma

    Silvercosma New Member

    [​IMG] Thank you again nobledruali! Without your feedback I probably would have dropped this thread already -- it seems that we two are the only ones interested in it ... [​IMG]

    I still have a few names. I will post them one by one whenever I'm in the mood to look them up and copy their biographies.
     

Share This Page