Someone here will vote for Trump ?

andreboba said:
THere's a greater risk his foreign policy takes us to the brink of a major international conflict, specifically over Hong Kong and Ukraine.

Those Russian jets that have been buzzing our naval ships would probably be shot at under Trump which would force Putin to retaliate.

It would only take a few moves before Trump and Putin are in a stare down over whose ICBM is the biggest.:(
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Nuclear weapons are more impressive due to the display of energy released from the reaction, but biological weapons are more of a threat.

ICBM can be shot down in defense but the damage from the nuclear fallout could be far reaching over the long term.

Things could get really ugly in a fight against Russia, Iran, and North Korea.

You are right about trump of course, he is too simple minded to have such responsibility.
 
My 2 cents?...

Nowadays, any kid who comes up and ask me about joining the military...I tell them that now is not a good time (and that goes for Hillary or Donald).

I'm still trying to figure out how we (the USA) got here? Where have all the quality presidential candidates gone?...or is it just the fact that there is no way to keep those skeletons in the closet?
 
darkwawyer said:
Nowadays, any kid who comes up and ask me about joining the military...I tell them that now is not a good time (and that goes for Hillary or Donald).

I'm still trying to figure out how we (the USA) got here? Where have all the quality presidential candidates gone?...or is it just the fact that there is no way to keep those skeletons in the closet?
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Bernie Sanders?
 
I am worried what's going to happen after the presidential election. My son wants to make the Army a career and he's been talking about jumping out of airplanes and hanging from helicopters... His MOS is one that he'd be very active in the front line if the US went to war.

Yet I already know my son is a Soldier and he is proud.

Did you hear/read about the Philippine president-elect who has encouraged the public to help him in his war against crime, urging citizens with guns to shoot and kill drug dealers who resist arrest and fight back in their neighborhoods.
 
Cherok33 said:
I am worried what's going to happen after the presidential election. My son wants to make the Army a career and he's been talking about jumping out of airplanes and hanging from helicopters... His MOS is one that he'd be very active in the front line if the US went to war.

Yet I already know my son is a Soldier and he is proud.

Did you hear/read about the Philippine president-elect who has encouraged the public to help him in his war against crime, urging citizens with guns to shoot and kill drug dealers who resist arrest and fight back in their neighborhoods.
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I'm worried too but unfortunately I see this shit coming from a mile away

If you want to fight drugs fight poverty pure and simple
 
The Dark King said:
I'm worried too but unfortunately I see this shit coming from a mile away

If you want to fight drugs fight poverty pure and simple
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This one politician, who is pretty well known said recently," I don't want blaa people to get money from the government. I want blaa people to have an opportunity to better their lives."

This guy dodged saying black people. He used the moniker to describe everyone who is poor and in need. So he strategically avoided saying black people.

I recall a black politician in Chicago who addressed his colleagues by warning them of the increase in crime in the city. He was told that what he had said was scary. He responded by saying, "Poverty is always scary. Desperate people will do desperate things if you do nothing about it."
Or something along those lines.

Politicians go around and say that they want to do good things by and for their constituents. But when that time comes, they do a sidestep and say to any local or national press, "No comment," or , "We are still in negotiations at things moment."

It's all a familiar, yet arcane game or dance.
 
Cherok33 said:
I am worried what's going to happen after the presidential election. My son wants to make the Army a career and he's been talking about jumping out of airplanes and hanging from helicopters... His MOS is one that he'd be very active in the front line if the US went to war.

Yet I already know my son is a Soldier and he is proud.

Did you hear/read about the Philippine president-elect who has encouraged the public to help him in his war against crime, urging citizens with guns to shoot and kill drug dealers who resist arrest and fight back in their neighborhoods.
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I remember when the first Gulf War occurred. I was riding my bicycle along the road to get to school. A convoy of Army trucks came into my view. I stopped and gave each truck the thumbs up gesture. Each truck responded with two horn blasts in acknowledgement . I was simply giving the troops my support. I was angry that I wasn't able to serve because I had scoliosis surgery and the government classified me as unfit to serve. A campus security guard went to the Gulf. I told him how I wished I was there. He replied, "No, you don't."
I guess I wouldn't like to go into a war. There is always something around the corner. I once wrote a poem about a war in the desert. It was a poem that rhymed and was about 5 pages long.
One of my verses was like this;

Here we are, under cover of darkness.
Death is knocking on every door.

To kill is something that you must do.
You must kill until there is no more.

I wrote it in 1985.

I lost it when I moved to Florida.

I'm sure your son knows what he is doing.

I salute him.
 
RaiderLL said:
I hope you're joking. This country doesn't need a "huge shake up", we need to work together for the betterment of this country. Obama has done incredible things in his 8 years, despite the constant, willfully ignorant opposition of the Republican Party. No way on earth I want to go backwards by supporting any current candidate of that party. I can't stand people supporting trump solely for his "entertainment" factor. He's not funny, he's not entertaining, he's a vile human being who has already shown himself to be a complete embarrassment to the United States of America. He will singlehandedly push critical equality issues in this country, backwards 60 years. It's truly beyond me how anyone can support someone so blatantly hateful. He's a racist, sexist, entitled asshole who is ONLY in this race for his egos sake. I have no doubt he sits at home, laughing at all the intellectually challenged people falling for every piece of bullshit that comes out of his mouth. Ignorant pawns, falling right in line as he'd hoped. The majority of Americans MUST be better than that. Vote for someone who'll challenge the hate in this country, not someone looking to incite a war between its citizens.
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As usual, me & raider on the same page.

Trump is dangerous, even before you get to the hate stuff. Even if he loses, he's gonna have a negative effect on american politics.

...But anyway, why is this in the "Men's Locker Room"? It's an important topic of the day. Might get some new registrants if it were visible to all.
 
RaiderLL said:
This. Too many small minds around here. Anyone who can even remotely support (or try to justify) trump is 100% part of the problem in this country. They're supporting/tolerating/perpetuating the divide amongst Americans and the volume of support that man has is more telling of where we stand as a country than anything else. I've always tried to go through each day seeing the good in people...his hate-filled, racist, ignorant as fuck campaign has woken me up to the reality of many Americans beliefs, morals and values (or their complete lack thereof). Pathetic times we're in.
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Damn. Tell it like it t-i is... :smt023
 
FG said:
I have been here since 94 and lately this country I love so much is circling the drain. Becoming more and more backwards.

There are no real candidates I would truly support, I like Sanders, but unfortunately. I don't think it's realistic for this country. I have some issues with Clinton of course. But for people to NOT vote because of that, you might as well vote for Trumph. It's idiotic to not vote and Shame on you!!!!!!

That is not a demonstration of disapproval. It doesn't work like that. You HAVE to use your power to vote, if your perfect choice currently doesnt exist. Then support the second best, or we will have a state that regulates media and other fascistic issues. And it's your fault because you didn't vote against Trumph. He will be the new era of fachism, that we hoped died with Franco.
Geeezzzz people. Use your right to vote!!!!! It's even more important in a race like this, where there are no clear candidates, or you pick the worst one by default. I'm packing already
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Excellent points. Rep to you.
 
The system of choosing candidates and election of president is akin to the old Soviet system. You have a choice of candidates - which are chosen by a few.
I do not consider the U.S. political system to be truly democratic.
Its controlled by a few. And largely by big business.
 
Sometimes elections aren't about voting for the BEST candidate, but instead voting for the one with the least flaws.

Head to head, Hillary is the least flawed candidate running in the general presidential election.

No she's not perfect, but 'perfect' isn't running and never has.
 
While I'm not giving Hillary a free pass... I think Trump represents all that terribly wrong in the USA, and then some. His ego, and his "my way or no way" attitude is downright scary. Ever notice that he's never wrong on anything. Everyone else is always to blame. I guess he's without flaws (is his own eyes).

Absolutely no way I'll choose to not vote. If I'm alive and well... My vote will be cast as it always is. I do wish everyone would see the importance of voting. This thing of... "I don't like any of them/the system is rigged/corrupt" and so on is simply a cop out.
 
DudeNY12 said:
While I'm not giving Hillary a free pass... I think Trump represents all that terribly wrong in the USA, and then some. His ego, and his "my way or no way" attitude is downright scary. Ever notice that he's never wrong on anything. Everyone else is always to blame. I guess he's without flaws (is his own eyes).

Absolutely no way I'll choose to not vote. If I'm alive and well... My vote will be cast as it always is. I do wish everyone would see the importance of voting. This thing of... "I don't like any of them/the system is rigged/corrupt" and so on is simply a cop out.
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It seems that the GOP is trying to get mitt Romney
 
Yeah... I agree you should definitely vote. I don't particularly care for either candidate, but it's about choosing the candidate that most closely identified with my morals and beliefs, the one who has the best interest of our country at heart and would do the best job while serving in office.
 
Hillary or Trump is such a crappy choice, I'm hoping that "none of the above" is on the ballot. But if hypothetically I was the deciding vote between these two, I would begrudgingly vote for Hillary.
 
Thump said:
Hillary or Trump is such a crappy choice, I'm hoping that "none of the above" is on the ballot. But if hypothetically I was the deciding vote between these two, I would begrudgingly vote for Hillary.
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I find it difficult because Hillary is specifically racist towards black men with her superpredator bullshit. Trump is generally racist towards everyone else. So, I am kind of stuck choosing between the racist and the racist...
 
My thing is that while they're not ideal... Trump is by far a much, much worse kind of evil. I don't believe he'll be able to "Make America Great Again", we've yet to hear any real/intelligent strategy from him, there's no way I'd ever be OK with a person who's so openly racist and nacissisistic. That said... I think Hillary is a better choice for POTUS by leaps and bounds.
 
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