Jesse Williams' BET Speech did you catch it?

[4north1side2]

Beyonce wasn't enough, she's now going after Jesse Williams

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Wifey

 

[K]

When was the last time you watched major tv channels? It's very integrated. No such thing as WET anymore.

I pretty much exclusively watch shows that either cater to b&w audiences or black audiences, as well as news themes shows and news, talk shows and reality shows, etc and l challenge you on your "handful" quote. Black faces alone are well represented in today's TV.

You not agreeing and suggesting its only a mere five or so that reflect Black, Asian and Mexican faces is irrelevant, because that's just YOUR opinion.

Yes, you are right, clearly it was my opinion. I said "I think..." which indicates it being my opinion. Given that this is a discussion thread, member's opinions are welcome.

While I will admit that my stating "handful" is not precisely accurate because there are more than 5, maybe you should define your use of "very" integrated.

You mentioned you "pretty much exclusively watch shows that either cater to b&w audiences or black audiences, as well as news themes shows and news, talk shows and reality shows, etc" but you asked Beasty about watching major tv channels. The majority of shows on the major tv channels are still very white and not extremely or exceedingly Black, or any other non-white ethnicity. (See definition below.)

Clearly there are shows out there (actors, reporters, etc) I just don't see it as being "very integrated". (Again see definition below)


(* my definition of "very" would be from dictionary.com "adverb
1.in a high degree; extremely; exceedingly:")

 

[goodlove8]

He's getting plenty of "extra acclaim" for speaking out. More than you'd get, that's for sure

This is like the movie "Surrogates" only here it's biracials who are our best selves that we live through remotely

TDK hit on the head

Yes he is speaking out for the black community and he's doing more for Black's in one minute than you would do in a life time.

He's an activists for black people while in hollywood where he can easily get blackballed for it. You are on the internet using an alias. You are such a tuff guy compared to him.

 

[K]

He's getting plenty of "extra acclaim" for speaking out. More than you'd get, that's for sure

He may be getting extra acclaim, but he's also at greater risk.

 

[goodlove8]

Meh. Nothing special. Speech pandering to the sisterhood. The guy demonizing "cultural appropriation" and whiteness with his white mama sitting right there. I guess he don't lub his mama. What do you white mamas think of that?

Actual black i.e. dark-skinned dudes speak out daily and get marginalized. Mixed blue-eyed good hair pretty boy says some shit and panties get wet across the land

Fight the power on a Jew-owned network

When guys who look like him get harrassed/followed around the store/shot by cops let me know

Fuck outta here

Do you get why he went off on "cultural appropriation" ?

If you do then tell us

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

He may be getting extra acclaim, but he's also at greater risk.

But his mama is white, so he can't really understand about "black struggle". He's just doing it for the extra pussy because he's light skinned & bi-racial......

 

[SmoothDaddy101]

Meh. Nothing special. Speech pandering to the sisterhood. The guy demonizing "cultural appropriation" and whiteness with his white mama sitting right there. I guess he don't lub his mama. What do you white mamas think of that?

Actual black i.e. dark-skinned dudes speak out daily and get marginalized. Mixed blue-eyed good hair pretty boy says some shit and panties get wet across the land

Fight the power on a Jew-owned network

When guys who look like him get harrassed/followed around the store/shot by cops let me know

Fuck outta here

This is the most logical post in this thread.

 

[SmoothDaddy101]

He's getting plenty of "extra acclaim" for speaking out. More than you'd get, that's for sure

This is like the movie "Surrogates" only here it's biracials who are our best selves that we live through remotely

Don't say that because you know how much the love mixed folks. Remember, they black like us!

 

[goodlove8]

But his mama is white, so he can't really understand about "black struggle". He's just doing it for the extra pussy because he's light skinned & bi-racial......

Yeah Malcolm x is some where saying "I'm light skinned and I put myself out there....damn I could've got tons of booty"

 

[Beasty]

But his mama is white, so he can't really understand about "black struggle". He's just doing it for the extra pussy because he's light skinned & bi-racial......

I didn't follow that either.

 

[K]

Meh. Nothing special. Speech pandering to the sisterhood. The guy demonizing "cultural appropriation" and whiteness with his white mama sitting right there. I guess he don't lub his mama. What do you white mamas think of that?

Actual black i.e. dark-skinned dudes speak out daily and get marginalized. Mixed blue-eyed good hair pretty boy says some shit and panties get wet across the land

Fight the power on a Jew-owned network

When guys who look like him get harrassed/followed around the store/shot by cops let me know

Fuck outta here

Ok so....what would you suggest? You don't like who it was that spoke out, where he did it, nor did you like what he said.

Who would your propose speak out, where, and what should they be saying?

Regarding "when guys who look like him get harassed/followed around the store/shot by cops let me know. I'm letting you know....it happens every day.

 

[goodlove8]

This is the most logical post in this thread.

What's logical about it as oppised to tdk, k and ra's posts

 

[The Dark King]

Ok so....what would you suggest? You don't like who it was that spoke out, where he did it, nor did you like what he said.

Who would your propose speak out, where, and what should they be saying?

Regarding "when guys who look like him get harassed/followed around the store/shot by cops let me know. I'm letting you know....it happens every day.

Dudes that look like him don't really get the same kind of fear. He's a preferred minority with his blue eyes and light skin. Let's keep it 100

 

[The Dark King]

EXACTLY!
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People forget that Most Of The Entertainment Industry is owned by white men and to me, that is one of REAL issues regarding racism in the entertainment industry to start at. I liked his speech, but once again I have yet to see a entertainer call out the racism by the mainstream media and provide truth to the people that the entertainment industry is owned by white men therefore they are more bias to white entertainers than other races especially regarding white men and non-white men.

Mainstream media can add people of color to their broadcasting team, or magazine editing team, but guess what still remains the same? The bias ways they report on white entertainers and entertainers of color mainly men of color. I remember my niece saying to me when Idris Elba won two SAG Awards in the same night earlier this year, that if that was george clooney or matt damon the media wouldn't shut up about it. They would of been all over the today show, entertainment tonight... The praise would of been very high, but since it was a Black Man that had that big night the media kept it moderate. Or how Black Panther was one of the marvel heroes that stole the show in the Captain America Movie and was a BIG fan favorite, but he wasn't a MSM favorite... they gave Chadwick Boseman another moderate response.

I just wish entertainers of color would talk more about those things and more related to it, because to me that is the very core of the race issue.

He literally does it all the time. This must be the first time you heard dude speak

 

[The Dark King]

He's getting plenty of "extra acclaim" for speaking out. More than you'd get, that's for sure

This is like the movie "Surrogates" only here it's biracials who are our best selves that we live through remotely

Who else is speaking out like Jessie Williams fam. Show me the other black people in the spotlight who make specific points about the devaluation of black bodies and who go to places like Ferguson and Cleveland to protest who are as outspoken as he is. Who also have an almost all white fan base carrying them but actually speak out the way he does. I get he has a certain amount of light skin privilege but that shouldn't in no way diminish the actual real work dude is doing. I pay such close attention to this shit and its not like Jessie Williams is one famous voice out of many, he stands almost alone. Most of them live the "new black" lifestyle where as long as they are getting money they could give a fuck less about what's happening to other black people. I really suggest you seek out and watch more of the times he speaks out. Before he was an actor he was a teacher who got his degree in African American studies from Temple, he isn't doing this shit for attention he's literally always been like this.

 

[The Dark King]

Don't say that because you know how much the love mixed folks. Remember, they black like us!

You both gotta ditch the chips off your shoulders it's sad as fuck. You're so focused on how he looks that what he does has almost no merit huh. Wonder what that sounds like?

 

[goodlove8]

Who else is speaking out like Jessie Williams fam. Show me the other black people in the spotlight who make specific points about the devaluation of black bodies and who go to places like Ferguson and Cleveland to protest who are as outspoken as he is. Who also have an almost all white fan base carrying them but actually speak out the way he does. I get he has a certain amount of light skin privilege but that shouldn't in no way diminish the actual real work dude is doing. I pay such close attention to this shit and its not like Jessie Williams is one famous voice out of many, he stands almost alone. Most of them live the "new black" lifestyle where as long as they are getting money they could give a fuck less about what's happening to other black people. I really suggest you seek out and watch more of the times he speaks out. Before he was an actor he was a teacher who got his degree in African American studies from Temple, he isn't doing this shit for attention he's literally always been like this.

Preach

Preach

 

[Beasty]

You both gotta ditch the chips off your shoulders it's sad as fuck. You're so focused on how he looks that what he does has almost no merit huh. Wonder what that sounds like?

Inner race racism.

 

[Beasty]

Ok so....what would you suggest? You don't like who it was that spoke out, where he did it, nor did you like what he said.

Who would your propose speak out, where, and what should they be saying?

Regarding "when guys who look like him get harassed/followed around the store/shot by cops let me know. I'm letting you know....it happens every day.

Agreed

 

[K]

Dudes that look like him don't really get the same kind of fear. He's a preferred minority with his blue eyes and light skin. Let's keep it 100

While he may be a "preferred minority with his blue eyes and light skin", that doesn't mean that those who are lighter skinned and light eyes don't get followed around the stores or shot by cops. Those cops who are quick to shoot aren't saying oh well this one is a bit lighter so we aren't going to pull the trigger. If you really think they are, I have several friends who have lost their biracial sons to those bullets very recently who would certainly not agree with you. Granted I may be a bit sensitive to the subject given that I have spent many hours with some of these parents who's children were murdered.

Yes let's keep it 100. Don't you think it's important to acknowledge the reality is this happens to darker and lighter. Don't you think it's important to address the issues and not get into infighting about this hue vs that? Are the issues any less valid if it's coming from someone who's lighter skin with lighter eyes?

I'm asking the questions not to be snide but instead to say, it's easy to sit and rag about how someone who did stand up and say something may not have said it in the perfect spot, in the perfect way, or as the perfect representative...but isn't there something to be said about doing so. I notice there are many more who may fit in those choice positions who are not. It's really easy to pick apart those who take the risk and stand up, but I don't see anyone who's complaining taking the risks to do something about these issues.

The truth is none of us know the answers. If we did, the issues would be solved. It's going to take people stepping up to do things that are outside the norm to figure out what will work.

The level of fear....I get what you are saying. However, the "preferred minorities" have their own issues (from both sides). I just don't know how productive it is to get into the who's got it worse arguments.