BM/WW IR sightings on TV

JamalSpunky said:
Geez, man. Ray Donovan is a hardcore drama show. House of Cards leans more towards a comedy slant. The son didn't ruin the show, his time on the series was inconsistent anyway and his storyline, when properly addressed, was well done and a bit ahead of its time. But you seem to overlook the rarity that the show gave us: three generations f black men under one roof and the relationship that existed between them. That was fantastic. Also you don't seem to appreciate that Hose of Cards never put its leading black male in a box so far as what type of woman he was allowed to pursue. Cheadle's character got a lot of hot white chicks including his ex-wife. He also had his white boo whom I admit when the show first started I never saw them getting together. But TPTB worked that storyline angle, kept with it, let it develop slowly at first and then went straight ahead. They got together, fucked around a bit, Marty made a mistake, Jeanie got pissed, they went their separate ways, came back together as co-workers under obvious tension, Jeanie fucked up hen Marty seemed ready to make the plunge, he went t jail for a bit, she got pregnant by him before them, he came out f jail kinda hating her, they moved on to other relationships, they broke up with those people and in the end they got back together as a couple and got married. End of series. A rare example of a black guy being able to court a white woman and actually end up with her instead of breaking up with her because he has been "taught" that loving a white woman means he hates being black f hates black women. That t me was important that the show didn't go down that road. House of Lies was never great although season 3 came somewhat close. Nonetheless it was still a quality show that examined the life of an adult black male in a way that I had never seen before. My one complaint, and its one that people on these boards have strongly disagreed with me is that Don Cheade is miscast as a woman magnet (a HOT business professional woman magnet at that). Someone with Blair Underwood's looks (he would be the right age too) would have been better.
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Don Cheadle has a fuck ton of charisma and believability as a business consultant - Blair, not so much. Also, Don, and Kristen Bell for that matter, have this innate goodness to them that undercuts the horrible behavior of their characters. Not sure if many actors could pull off the material, which I agree with you, was mostly mediocre.
 
Monday nights on The CW - "Valor" just aired this week and IR is already in the air as the protagonist is in an interracial relationship and her black boyfriend is already being sized up by a superbly sexy CIA liason who doesn't seem too worried about violating regulations :). Great overall plot so far about America's reluctance to put Boots on the Ground in Muslim hotzones . . . so Special Ops are used to transport mercenaries but who's accountable when shit goes wrong?
 
ryanpaulstewart said:
Don Cheadle has a fuck ton of charisma and believability as a business consultant - Blair, not so much. Also, Don, and Kristen Bell for that matter, have this innate goodness to them that undercuts the horrible behavior of their characters. Not sure if many actors could pull off the material, which I agree with you, was mostly mediocre.
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Plus he is usually screwing over assholes so...
 
Don Cheadle portrayed Sammy Davis, Jr. in the film The Rat Pack. He had Sammy down. He had a bedroom scene with actress Megan Dodds, who portrayed May Britt.

In the film The Devil In A Blue Dress, he played Mouse Alexander, Easy Rawlin's lethal friend in the Easy Rawlings stories.

Don Cheadle had come a long way since playing Rocket on Colors.
 
Young Herschel said:
Monday nights on The CW - "Valor" just aired this week and IR is already in the air as the protagonist is in an interracial relationship and her black boyfriend is already being sized up by a superbly sexy CIA liason who doesn't seem too worried about violating regulations :). Great overall plot so far about America's reluctance to put Boots on the Ground in Muslim hotzones . . . so Special Ops are used to transport mercenaries but who's accountable when shit goes wrong?
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We spoke about this show earlier this past summer, she's having an affair with her white male friend behind her husband's back. It is another show that sets IR up to be doomed with the pointless addition of a white guy involved in their relationship. lol.
 
Skaddix said:
I wouldnt worry the ratings for it are shit. But yeah the Black Guy getting cucked is not my thing.
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Yeah their most anticipated new shows with IR in them are Dynasty and Life Sentence. Dynasty aired tonight and we will have to wait until January to see Life Sentence.
Don't know how dynasty is going. I remember the original one back in the 80's though.
 
JamalSpunky said:
Geez, man. Ray Donovan is a hardcore drama show. House of Cards leans more towards a comedy slant. The son didn't ruin the show, his time on the series was inconsistent anyway and his storyline, when properly addressed, was well done and a bit ahead of its time. But you seem to overlook the rarity that the show gave us: three generations f black men under one roof and the relationship that existed between them. That was fantastic. Also you don't seem to appreciate that Hose of Cards never put its leading black male in a box so far as what type of woman he was allowed to pursue. Cheadle's character got a lot of hot white chicks including his ex-wife. He also had his white boo whom I admit when the show first started I never saw them getting together. But TPTB worked that storyline angle, kept with it, let it develop slowly at first and then went straight ahead. They got together, fucked around a bit, Marty made a mistake, Jeanie got pissed, they went their separate ways, came back together as co-workers under obvious tension, Jeanie fucked up hen Marty seemed ready to make the plunge, he went t jail for a bit, she got pregnant by him before them, he came out f jail kinda hating her, they moved on to other relationships, they broke up with those people and in the end they got back together as a couple and got married. End of series. A rare example of a black guy being able to court a white woman and actually end up with her instead of breaking up with her because he has been "taught" that loving a white woman means he hates being black f hates black women. That t me was important that the show didn't go down that road. House of Lies was never great although season 3 came somewhat close. Nonetheless it was still a quality show that examined the life of an adult black male in a way that I had never seen before. My one complaint, and its one that people on these boards have strongly disagreed with me is that Don Cheade is miscast as a woman magnet (a HOT business professional woman magnet at that). Someone with Blair Underwood's looks (he would be the right age too) would have been better.
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But the personality matters more. And in corporate America success is far hotter than looks. Make a name for yourself and women will throw themselves at you like you were a top model
 
Skaddix said:
I skimmed it...rich white conservative dad's worst nightmare...Son is Gay and Fucks Mexicans and the Daughter Loves the BBC.
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The 80's adaptation had Steven Carrington come out as gay. Two actors played Steven and two actresses played Fallon(Pamela Sue Martin and Emma Samms). Blake killed Stevens lover in a fit of rage.

Blake discovered that he had a black sister (played by Dianne Carrol). Alexis didn't believe it and made no bones about what she thought of her.

Rich and powerful really did look good back then. But so was the cattiness among the female characters. That sometimes helped shows like Dynasty and Dynasty 2: The Colby's.
 
The Dark King said:
But the personality matters more. And in corporate America success is far hotter than looks. Make a name for yourself and women will throw themselves at you like you were a top model
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It applies also to shows about professional sports like HBO's First And Ten(O.J. Simpson and Joe Namath were on that show. Simpson beds a white woman on that show).

Power, recognized and perceived, is always attractive as it is dangerous.
 
Gorath said:
The 80's adaptation had Steven Carrington come out as gay. Two actors played Steven and two actresses played Fallon(Pamela Sue Martin and Emma Samms). Blake killed Stevens lover in a fit of rage.

Blake discovered that he had a black sister (played by Dianne Carrol). Alexis didn't believe it and made no bones about what she thought of her.

Rich and powerful really did look good back then. But so was the cattiness among the female characters. That sometimes helped shows like Dynasty and Dynasty 2: The Colby's.
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I suppose I am showing my age...I know Of Dynasty...I dont know shit about Dynasty if that makes sense.
 
darkcurry said:
We spoke about this show earlier this past summer, she's having an affair with her white male friend behind her husband's back. It is another show that sets IR up to be doomed with the pointless addition of a white guy involved in their relationship. lol.
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I don't believe they're married . . where did u get that impression? Her black boyfriend is DEFINITELY gonna lash out at her for keeping secrets and bend over that cute as can be CIA liason so Im all good with the IR to come . . . plus there are numerous other black characters
 
Skaddix said:
I suppose I am showing my age...I know Of Dynasty...I dont know shit about Dynasty if that makes sense.
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It's understandable. I don't watch any CW shows, either. The 80's adaptation was pretty riveting because of the cast and it dealt with issues like rape, corruption, deception, drugs and sexual intrigue. Fallon Carrin slept around a lot. Sammie Jo, Krystal Carrington's niece,a wild bad girl, sort of becomes a protégée of Alexis but marries Steven before his coming out as gay.

This adaptation of the 80's show borrowed a lot from the 80's show but the characters were slightly altered. Krystal was a blonde. The new Krystal is a brunette. Sammie Jo was a young woman, now a gay man. The CW has a lot of work cut out for itself with this adaptation. When Alexis appears is another issue if she hasn't appeared already. But if the writers of this show are clever and are able to throw in some twists and surprises, it might make it.
 
Young Herschel said:
I don't believe they're married . . where did u get that impression? Her black boyfriend is DEFINITELY gonna lash out at her for keeping secrets and bend over that cute as can be CIA liason so Im all good with the IR to come . . . plus there are numerous other black characters
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My fault, I did not mean to say husband. But mind you this is these are the main characters, it's another dysfuncional IR relationship which is what is lacking when it comes to IR on TV involving a black man in a relationship. Just look at how supergirl did Kara's relationship with James and Mon-El, the way they decided to end Liv's IR romance on iZombie and the black guy on Wynonna Earp for an example.

Now also remember Iam speaking from how they showed us in the trailer, but it's still dysfunctional and follows a trend
 
ryanpaulstewart said:
Total non sequitur.

Including The Good Place, Kristen Bell has now had four black love interests. Is there an IR Hall of Fame we can induct her into? She's had more black love interests than I've had black girlfriends!
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I did not know that. There are a very few White actresses who have a Black love interest in a TV series. The actress from Save The Last Dance played a Desmona character in O.
 
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