Soulthinker
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Obama's dad got another WW pregnant too.
Respect where it's due: BM/WW IR in History
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bodhesatva
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When I see interracial couples that are even 50 years old (let alone 70+ or long since passed), I'm silently grateful to them. The tough times they went through to normalize interracial relationships means that my husband and I can hold hands in public and (for the most part) not have to worry or think about it. I can't imagine what it must have been like to be a white woman dating / married to a black man in 1960.
Soulthinker
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It was dangerous in some places in 1960 like the South. Plus,the WW in places where IR is legal had to hide their photos of their husbands in the workplace.
MightyLighty
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It was a death wish for ANY bm male particularly in the south (notice I said male and not man) that dared to even glance at let alone pursue a ww. i.e. Emmett Till, George Stinney Jr, Ed Johnson and the Scottsboro Boys.
Marcus7777
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We know how that worked outOpponents of interracial relationships claim that people who are involved interracially lose touch with their communities, are too weak or too self centered to stand up for marginalized and disadvantaged people, and can't be role models for the next generation.
Let's make a list of all those people who made a difference eventhough they were/are involved with or married to non-black women or non-white men. Let's show respect where it's due no matter if they are historical persons, celebrities or the man/woman next door. And if you want to brag about your own activities - please don't be shy and use this space to do so!
Frederick Douglass and his wife Helen Pitts
Frederick Douglass was probably the most prominent abolitionist and reformer, his wife Helen Pitts was active in the women's rights movement.
Thurgood Marshall and his Filipina wife Cecile Suyat
Thurgood Marshall was appointed Chief counsel for the NAACP who won 29 out of the 32 civil rights cases he argued before the Supreme Court, among them Brown v. Board of Education (outlawed racial segregation of public education facilities), Shelley v. Kraemer (granted the right to purchase and own property), Smith v. Allwright (opened primary elections to voters of all races) and Browder v. Gayle, (ending the practice of segregation on buses and ending the Montgomery Bus Boycott). Cecile worked as a secretary for the NAACP.
Tiger Woods and his wife Elin Nordegren
They established several charitable and youth projects, among them the Tiger Woods Foundation which provides university scholarships for disadvantaged children, and the Tiger Woods Learning Center which offers day and after school programs, summer programs, weekend and community outreach programs and online learning programs to improve skills in reading, math, science and technology.
Marcus7777
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the Southern Poverty Law Center is a Socialist money laundering organization.His name is Bond, Julian Bond
and he is married to Pamela Sue Horowitz
Julian Bond was a founder of the Committee on Appeal for Human Rights (COAHR), a student civil rights organization that helped win integration of Atlanta's movie theaters, lunch counters, and parks. He formed the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC).
Bond helped found the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) along with Morris Dees. He was the organization's president from 1971 to 1979 and today serves on its board of directors. The Southern Poverty Law Center works to protect legal rights and through the courts to protect the legal rights of the poor of all races. He was elected to his fourth term as the chairman of the National Board of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), the nation's oldest and largest civil rights organization.
Bond was elected to the Georgia House of Representatives in 1966. During his service in the Georgia General Assembly, Bond was sponsor of more than 60 bills that became law, and he organized the Georgia Legislative Black Caucus, then the largest such group in the nation.
In 1968, Bond was nominated for Vice President of the United States, the first black person to be so nominated by a major political party, though he withdrew his name because he was too young to serve.
Pamela Sue Horowitz is a Washington lawyer.
Read more here
Soulthinker
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One of the rare IR photos of 100+ years ago.
Soulthinker
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And many more before them.
Soulthinker
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On his mother's side she was decended from a Black African slave and had IR whose family passed as White.
ColiBreh1
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More info? I know folks are gonna feel some type of way that Obama is actually a Descendant of AA Slaves.
darkcurry
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I've been wanting to do a thread on Interracial between black men and white women through out history since seeing the movie A United Kingdom and learning more about them.
There has been so many beautiful interracial couples throughout history and their amazing stories that just defines love. It is obvious that hollywood more than likely would touch these stories like a hand to a hot pan, so I thought I would add some of the couples and their stories that I have read this year.
There has been so many beautiful interracial couples throughout history and their amazing stories that just defines love. It is obvious that hollywood more than likely would touch these stories like a hand to a hot pan, so I thought I would add some of the couples and their stories that I have read this year.
darkcurry
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I know I should start off with Ruth and Seretse, but the last story I read is a very good one that shocked me and intrigued me.
Theophilus Wonja Michael & Martha Wegner
From the book entitled Black German by their son Theodor Michael
Theodor Michaels father comes from Cameroon, which since 1884 was so called "German protected area". As a colonial member, Theophilus Wonja Michael Untertan of the German Empire was able to enter Berlin at the end of the 19th century. He married a German and got four children with her. Theodor was the youngest. His mother died shortly after his birth. In order to bring the children through, the father made his way through the country with them, and became part of the then-popular peoples. African-looking people were put into bastards and presented as a culturally unprotected savage to the cultured Europeans. The performances were against Theodor. When he was four, the authorities determined that the father was not able to "secure a decent life for the children." The family was torn apart. The older children appeared with artists in the circus, Theodor and his sister came to a nursing family, who wanted to earn money with the two above all. They took care of the household, went to the circus, and again went to peoples' houses.
More of the story here ( You have to translate the page) http://www.stadtgottes.de/stago/ausgaben/2016/05/themen/Nie-wieder-Bastroeckchen.php
Theodor Michael as a young family father with his then wife Elfriede and son Roy (1948)
Theophilus Wonja Michael & Martha Wegner
From the book entitled Black German by their son Theodor Michael
Theodor Michaels father comes from Cameroon, which since 1884 was so called "German protected area". As a colonial member, Theophilus Wonja Michael Untertan of the German Empire was able to enter Berlin at the end of the 19th century. He married a German and got four children with her. Theodor was the youngest. His mother died shortly after his birth. In order to bring the children through, the father made his way through the country with them, and became part of the then-popular peoples. African-looking people were put into bastards and presented as a culturally unprotected savage to the cultured Europeans. The performances were against Theodor. When he was four, the authorities determined that the father was not able to "secure a decent life for the children." The family was torn apart. The older children appeared with artists in the circus, Theodor and his sister came to a nursing family, who wanted to earn money with the two above all. They took care of the household, went to the circus, and again went to peoples' houses.
More of the story here ( You have to translate the page) http://www.stadtgottes.de/stago/ausgaben/2016/05/themen/Nie-wieder-Bastroeckchen.php
Theodor Michael as a young family father with his then wife Elfriede and son Roy (1948)
Soulthinker
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True indeed. He is no "foreigner" like some racists say.
Soulthinker
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I heard of that book somewhere a year or two back. Pleased it is being sold in the States.I know I should start off with Ruth and Seretse, but the last story I read is a very good one that shocked me and intrigued me.
Theophilus Wonja Michael & Martha Wegner
From the book entitled Black German by their son Theodor Michael
Theodor Michaels father comes from Cameroon, which since 1884 was so called "German protected area". As a colonial member, Theophilus Wonja Michael Untertan of the German Empire was able to enter Berlin at the end of the 19th century. He married a German and got four children with her. Theodor was the youngest. His mother died shortly after his birth. In order to bring the children through, the father made his way through the country with them, and became part of the then-popular peoples. African-looking people were put into bastards and presented as a culturally unprotected savage to the cultured Europeans. The performances were against Theodor. When he was four, the authorities determined that the father was not able to "secure a decent life for the children." The family was torn apart. The older children appeared with artists in the circus, Theodor and his sister came to a nursing family, who wanted to earn money with the two above all. They took care of the household, went to the circus, and again went to peoples' houses.
More of the story here ( You have to translate the page) http://www.stadtgottes.de/stago/ausgaben/2016/05/themen/Nie-wieder-Bastroeckchen.php
Theodor Michael as a young family father with his then wife Elfriede and son Roy (1948)
Soulthinker
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There has been two books published of their relationship. It is mentioned in Wikapedia.I've been wanting to do a thread on Interracial between black men and white women through out history since seeing the movie A United Kingdom and learning more about them.
There has been so many beautiful interracial couples throughout history and their amazing stories that just defines love. It is obvious that hollywood more than likely would touch these stories like a hand to a hot pan, so I thought I would add some of the couples and their stories that I have read this year.
Soulthinker
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I could imagine that brother saying "I feel like Jack Johnson now."
darkcurry
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Here is another wonderful and groundbreaking IR couple and family, that you probably never heard of.
George, Josephine & Philippa Schuyler
(Tough to find a younger picture of couple, probably didn't take too many understandably.)
Born in Texas in 1897 to a wealthy family, Schuyler left for California after the brief marriage she had entered at sixteen ended. There, she spent time as a Max Sennett bathing beauty and a ballet dancer in a San Francisco opera company.
George S. Schuyler (1895-1977) was a conservative black journalist, satirist, author and editor. He was born in Providence, Rhode Island on February 25,1895 to George Francis Schuyler, a chef, and Eliza (Fischer) Schuyler. The Schuyler family was from the Albany-Troy area, a great grandfather having served under General Philip Schuyler, and his racially mixed maternal line was from the New York/New Jersey area. Schuyler grew up in Syracuse, New York and when not traveling for his career, spent most of his adult life in New York City.
George Schuyler, a black journalist, and Josephine Cogdell, a blond, blue-eyed Texas heiress, believed that intermarriage would “invigorate” the races. Their daughter, Philippa Duke Schuyler, became the embodiment of this theory. Able to read and write at the age of two and a half, a pianist at four, and a composer by five, Philippa was often compared to Mozart. During the 1930s and 1940s she graced the pages of Time magazine and The New Yorker. Philippa soon became the inspiration for a generation of African-American children.
Shunned by blacks and whites alike, Josephine found herself isolated in the family's Harlem apartment, transformed by her radical interracial marriage into a conventional housewife. She reclaimed some voice for herself by writing an advice column — as a black woman — for The Pittsburgh Courier, the nation's largest black newspaper. She was also a poet and a painter, and served as her pianist daughter's manager.
George, Josephine & Philippa Schuyler
(Tough to find a younger picture of couple, probably didn't take too many understandably.)
Born in Texas in 1897 to a wealthy family, Schuyler left for California after the brief marriage she had entered at sixteen ended. There, she spent time as a Max Sennett bathing beauty and a ballet dancer in a San Francisco opera company.
George S. Schuyler (1895-1977) was a conservative black journalist, satirist, author and editor. He was born in Providence, Rhode Island on February 25,1895 to George Francis Schuyler, a chef, and Eliza (Fischer) Schuyler. The Schuyler family was from the Albany-Troy area, a great grandfather having served under General Philip Schuyler, and his racially mixed maternal line was from the New York/New Jersey area. Schuyler grew up in Syracuse, New York and when not traveling for his career, spent most of his adult life in New York City.
George Schuyler, a black journalist, and Josephine Cogdell, a blond, blue-eyed Texas heiress, believed that intermarriage would “invigorate” the races. Their daughter, Philippa Duke Schuyler, became the embodiment of this theory. Able to read and write at the age of two and a half, a pianist at four, and a composer by five, Philippa was often compared to Mozart. During the 1930s and 1940s she graced the pages of Time magazine and The New Yorker. Philippa soon became the inspiration for a generation of African-American children.
Shunned by blacks and whites alike, Josephine found herself isolated in the family's Harlem apartment, transformed by her radical interracial marriage into a conventional housewife. She reclaimed some voice for herself by writing an advice column — as a black woman — for The Pittsburgh Courier, the nation's largest black newspaper. She was also a poet and a painter, and served as her pianist daughter's manager.
Soulthinker
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I read about her many years ago and according to one biography of her she tried to pass as White. She died in Nam back in 67.Here is another wonderful and groundbreaking IR couple and family, that you probably never heard of.
George, Josephine & Philippa Schuyler
(Tough to find a younger picture of couple, probably didn't take too many understandably.)
Born in Texas in 1897 to a wealthy family, Schuyler left for California after the brief marriage she had entered at sixteen ended. There, she spent time as a Max Sennett bathing beauty and a ballet dancer in a San Francisco opera company.
George S. Schuyler (1895-1977) was a conservative black journalist, satirist, author and editor. He was born in Providence, Rhode Island on February 25,1895 to George Francis Schuyler, a chef, and Eliza (Fischer) Schuyler. The Schuyler family was from the Albany-Troy area, a great grandfather having served under General Philip Schuyler, and his racially mixed maternal line was from the New York/New Jersey area. Schuyler grew up in Syracuse, New York and when not traveling for his career, spent most of his adult life in New York City.
George Schuyler, a black journalist, and Josephine Cogdell, a blond, blue-eyed Texas heiress, believed that intermarriage would “invigorate” the races. Their daughter, Philippa Duke Schuyler, became the embodiment of this theory. Able to read and write at the age of two and a half, a pianist at four, and a composer by five, Philippa was often compared to Mozart. During the 1930s and 1940s she graced the pages of Time magazine and The New Yorker. Philippa soon became the inspiration for a generation of African-American children.
Shunned by blacks and whites alike, Josephine found herself isolated in the family's Harlem apartment, transformed by her radical interracial marriage into a conventional housewife. She reclaimed some voice for herself by writing an advice column — as a black woman — for The Pittsburgh Courier, the nation's largest black newspaper. She was also a poet and a painter, and served as her pianist daughter's manager.
darkcurry
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(not sure if mentioned.) Joe Appiah and Peggy Cripps
Joe Appiah was a Ghanaian lawyer, politician and statesman. His father was a schoolmaster, Methodist leader, traditional nobleman and, finally, Chief Secretary of Asanteman, a position his son would also subsequently occupy.
Peggy Cripps was the daughter of a British chancellor of the exchequer defied the conventions of her time by marrying an Ashanti political leader and who went on to become an author and a revered figure in her adopted homeland, Ghana.
When the couple were married at St John's Anglican Church, St John's Wood, several weeks later, the Independent Labour Party sent its best wishes. Such Labour figures as Aneurin Bevan, Hugh Gaitskell and Michael Foot joined the Indian politician Krishna Menon and colourfully attired African chiefs in the congregation. But less goodwill was detectable in Africa when the wedding pictures were published.
The couple had four Kids.
Side fact: The Appiahs are said to have been the inspiration, along with another African-British couple, Seretse Khama and Ruth Williams, for the 1967 film "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner," which dealt with a California couple's reaction to their daughter's engagement to a black doctor.
Joe Appiah was a Ghanaian lawyer, politician and statesman. His father was a schoolmaster, Methodist leader, traditional nobleman and, finally, Chief Secretary of Asanteman, a position his son would also subsequently occupy.
Peggy Cripps was the daughter of a British chancellor of the exchequer defied the conventions of her time by marrying an Ashanti political leader and who went on to become an author and a revered figure in her adopted homeland, Ghana.
When the couple were married at St John's Anglican Church, St John's Wood, several weeks later, the Independent Labour Party sent its best wishes. Such Labour figures as Aneurin Bevan, Hugh Gaitskell and Michael Foot joined the Indian politician Krishna Menon and colourfully attired African chiefs in the congregation. But less goodwill was detectable in Africa when the wedding pictures were published.
The couple had four Kids.
Side fact: The Appiahs are said to have been the inspiration, along with another African-British couple, Seretse Khama and Ruth Williams, for the 1967 film "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner," which dealt with a California couple's reaction to their daughter's engagement to a black doctor.