Beyonce and Colorism

Another example: I like to watch Nigerian comedy sometimes. I have noticed almost every Nigerian comedian makes jokes about Oyinbos (white people). It's ok, I can laugh about it. But let some white comedian stand up and start making jokes about black people. The racism cries will come immediately.
 
Madeleine said:
Ok. Example is needed here. When an African woman who has never lived in Europe (is on holiday) tells me something along the lines of " You seem to be a good wife for a white woman" what is that to you? I find it racist because she operates on the assumption that all white women are inferior wives and mothers because we don't have that culture of taking all the shit necessary to keep the family together. Because she's been hearing of divorce rates and that white women can't cook or whatever and functions on perceived cultural superiority which to her is the pure truth so she doesn't even realize that what she just said might be offensive to me. That she can't judge me as an individual based on some cultural/racial assumption. That sort of cultural superiority complex is what I have observed a lot.
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That's racial ignorance. You have to understand that in any country where you are the majority the minority will always be treated indifferent if that majority put any kind of system in place to benefit the majority and disenfranchise the minority. The minority holds no power over those that are in control. I'm not going to assume much about Nigeria, but in her culture that may have been the ideology set in the blithely ignorant minds by those that are willfully ignorant to those outside of their culture. In this world you have those that are willfully ignorant and those that are blithely ignorant. The willful ignorant teaches the blithely. But she can assume all she wants, she can't prove it, take it away from you, make laws, put it in European schools or "blackwash" it in European films because she is of the minority with no power. She is telling her views from her culture where if that where you were it would be racist, because now you have been more than just offended but disenfranchised, oppressed.
 
darkcurry said:
That's racial ignorance. You have to understand that in any country where you are the majority the minority will always be treated indifferent if that majority put any kind of system in place to benefit the majority and disenfranchise the minority. The minority holds no power over those that are in control. I'm not going to assume much about Nigeria, but in her culture that may have been the ideology set in the blithely ignorant minds by those that are willfully ignorant to those outside of their culture. In this world you have those that are willfully ignorant and those that are blithely ignorant. The willful ignorant teaches the blithely. But she can assume all she wants, she can't prove it, take it away from you, make laws, put it in European schools or "blackwash" it in European films because she is of the minority with no power. She is telling her views from her culture where if that where you were it would be racist, because now you have been more than just offended but disenfranchised, oppressed.
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Nobody was oppressed in that context. She lives in her country where her people are in power, I live in mine. She made a racist comment based on her perceived cultural superiority. When I go to Nigeria I should try telling people "*You are good at xyz for a black person" and see what happens.
How is she of the minority with no power? She lives in Nigeria. Nigeria has the largest GDP in Africa. They make their own curriculum at school. They have their own.movie industry. Germany doesn't go in their to mess with there interior issues. So those arguments just don't work in that context, which was exactly my point.
 
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racist:

noun
1.
a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that one's own racial group is superior or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.
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That doctrine wasn't meant to be used against anybody with white skin. Remember these are terms that was later described, which described the practices of white supremacy. Before those terms that was just life. Even some of the white people that fought against the way black people were treated still referred to them as niggers or against IR relationships and still believed they should be slaves because that is all they knew about black people.

When black people in th eU.S. try to exercise that doctrine it will come with very little support and affect, which is why it is more bigotry than anything. Nothing in the law supports racism against white people which is why they were so quick to label The Black Panther Party racist and go after so-called "Black Identity Extremist" because of those hate crimes commited against white cops than they are against the murders of unarmed black people and other people of color.

When black people try that racism shit on white people, they will and have struck the black community with their racism to show us who's in control here. Which is why it is so stupid when black people even try it.
 
Madeleine said:
Nobody was oppressed in that context. She lives in her country where her people are in power, I live in mine. She made a racist comment based on her perceived cultural superiority. When I go to Nigeria I should try telling people "*You are good at xyz for a black person" and see what happens.
How is she of the minority with no power? She lives in Nigeria. Nigeria has the largest GDP in Africa. They make their own curriculum at school. They have their own.movie industry. Germany doesn't go in their to mess with their interior issues. So those arguments just don't work in that context, which was exactly my point.
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All of that is unneeded because I was under the assumption when you said that she is in YOUR country telling you that. So I'm confused with your example now. She is of the minority if she is in Germany.
 
darkcurry said:
All of that is unneeded because I was under the assumption when you said that she is in YOUR country telling you that. So I'm confused with your example now. She is of the minority if she is in Germany.
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She lives in Nigeria. She was in Germany only for a visit.
 
darkcurry said:
That doctrine wasn't meant to be used against anybody with white skin. Remember these are terms that was later described, which described the practices of white supremacy. Before those terms that was just life. Even some of the white people that fought against the way black people were treated still referred to them as niggers or against IR relationships and still believed they should be slaves because that is all they knew about black people.

When black people in th eU.S. try to exercise that doctrine it will come with very little support and affect, which is why it is more bigotry than anything. Nothing in the law supports racism against white people which is why they were so quick to label The Black Panther Party racist and go after so-called "Black Identity Extremist" because of those hate crimes commited against white cops than they are against the murders of unarmed black people and other people of color.

When black people try that racism shit on white people, they will and have struck the black community with their racism to show us who's in control here. Which is why it is so stupid when black people even try it.
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So Japanese Americans, Mexican Americans (whatever other ethnic groups) who say and do things against other groups are not racist?
 
K said:
So Japanese Americans, Mexican Americans (whatever other ethnic groups) who say and do things against other groups are not racist?
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Depends are they a bigger group than black people in America? Do they have the systemic racism in the justice system on their side? When black people do racist things to benefit and further advance themselves pass white people along with anyone else who wants to try that on white people in America we seen what happens. So it is easy to call someone racist as I have called black people racist before, but that is on the surface and exist on the surface, when you go deeper into the ideology of racism there's more to it than the definition.
 
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Madeleine said:
Exactly. So black people can be racist.
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Yes. lol. Never said they couldn't am I getting lost in translation here? Anywhere you are the minority against the majority it is tough to use their practices against them. That is why I think of black people in countries like America as bigots than racist. Same shit(racial ignorance.) but on different levels.
 
Ra said:
It's literally two tiers of posters on this site. Posters with legit ties in/connections to IR relationships and posters with casual to zero ties/connections to IR relationships. The casual/zero tier literally have hijacked the focus of the site. Shit that has no actual bearing when it comes to IR relationships has now become the primary focus.

It's like a bunch of self appointed neighborhood watchers believing they have the same authority as actual police officers to go out and enforce the law.
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There we go again . Bullshit alarm in the other corner. Am getting somewhat tired of it.
 
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z said:
Correction
The south begins at the Canadian border
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Good point but I'd rather live in Europe than there. For one thing Canada has shitty whisky. America, Europe and Japan does it right. Everyone else whiskey taste like trash.
 
Beasty said:
Good point but I'd rather live in Europe than there. For one thing Canada has shitty whisky. America, Europe and Japan does it right. Everyone else whiskey taste like trash.
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You got your priorities right, choosing a country by their whisky, lol... I a'int mad at you, do you bro
 
z said:
You got your priorities right, choosing a country by their whisky, lol... I a'int mad at you, do you bro
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Lol.

We first world my brother. Seriously tho, have you ever relocated and later started missing your favorite restaurants? When you got home you tried to hit all your favorite spots? Its a similar experience. Sometimes people overseas just wish they had a cheeseburger from their favorite spot. Somethings you don't appreciate until its very scarce or gone.
 
The Dark King said:
Considering the site we're on its not surprising some simply can't see the beauty in dark skin. Shame but not surprising. Like racism colorism is deeply baked into our psyches
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Agreed, Lupita is stunningly beautiful and Amara la Negra is killing it also.
 
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