NY Post cartoon

OOOOOHHH..!!!!

 

STANDING UP CLAPPING..!

 

What suffering have you endured? Have you heard the phrase, "throw off the shackles"?

 

Kinda hard to throw of the shackles when they follow you wherever you go. I have "suffered" by not getting certain jobs BECAUSE I am black and not necessarily because the other guy was more qualified. If it's a job that a white person would like, it's going to be hard for you to get that job unless you are SO good that they can overlook their prejudice. You can tell if your dealing with a racist organization by the clear vibe that they give off. Oh they won't TELL you directly but it's pretty clear...

I'm sure many of us have "suffered" by being viewed as worthless drains on society while never being given much opportunity to actually prove otherwise so that they can continue to call us worthless. Why do you think the educational system was implemented? At one time, blacks weren't even allowed to attend college in order to keep us from actually making any gains in this country. Now that more blacks are going to school and getting degrees, it has gotten a bit better but now you have complaints about AA which was put in place because many white-run companies STILL wouldn't hire you regardless. The fact that you are black is enough for them. Ironically, I hear that AA has been the most beneficial to white females in the workplace. So if that is true, then those who complain don't have a leg to stand on!!!

The fault is not all theirs however. There needs to be a lot of positive motivation in many black communities and an end to senseless violence in high crime areas. That behavior only lends weight to the stereotypical view on blacks playing right into the trap.

So while you may be able to figuratively "throw off the shackles", realistically they are STILL there!

 

I can see that you are still wearing them. I recommend you get rid of them.

 

Black men are still being called these same racial slurs, with the same original intent, by police officers targeting them for abuse and harrassment throughout the US.

There is no corresponding situation that currently exists with racial slurs designed for white people.

By all means, there's no reason for Black people to carry the weight of the suffering of their ancestors.

But there's no reason to pretend that they are not still suffering.

And before some suggests that the stories of police targeting black people are overstated, read up on Jon Burge, Chicago & death row.

 

+1

'we didn't land on Plymouth rock, Plymouth rock landed on us'

in other words, we didn't choose to be black and have any burdens thrown on us, all that was thrust upon us regardless

I haven't been called the N word in about half a year (last guy to call me that was a wino at 1 in the morning), so I guess we're making strides.

 

To claim that you are suffering now is an insult to those who did suffer in the past and give you the opportunities that exist today.

 

That's very silly. Having talked with a few Black men over the age of 75, who I think we'll agree have seen their fair share of suffering, and they are very concerned about the obstacles still facing young Black men today.

Further, where is your measurement? You could just as easily have said the same thing about civil rights leaders of the 50's & 60's. Sure, they were fighting against detestable, intolerable institutionalized and mainstreamed racism, but it's not like they suffered the same way that slaves did.

Is there something inherently wrong with desiring progress? In looking at the wrongs that exist and wanting change?

Btw, I don't know if you're being literal with the "you", but I'm a white woman. I've lived in predominately White areas (as in, a suburb with literally only 2 black people) and in predominately Black areas (as in, I was the only white person in the neighborhood), and in the most diverse neighborhood in my state (one of the most diverse neighborhoods in the country). I have seen a LOT of what white priviledge buys you in the modern day. You can say that the racism that exists today is nothing compared to yesterday, but it's a damned long way from the daily comforts our society affords white people like myself.

 

I agree with you on some things, but this is too short-sighted for me to agree with.

Racism does not cease to exist, because you simply block it from your mind, or act like it goes away with the passing of a certain threshold in time.

'you don't believe in the devil, but rest assured the devil believes in you'
-some random movie quote

 

Yes, I thought you were a BM. Thanks for clarifying, it puts things in better perspective. Many non-black (bleeding heart) liberals, though well-intentioned, are guilty of a bit of racism when they think a black person is disadvantaged just because of the color of their skin. I would look at someone's particular socio-economic status rather than race to determine if they are disadvantaged.

 

Gotcha, but I am not saying it doesn't exist. It is not illegal to hate. The issue is how you deal with it. Just like in your situation of the wino calling you a nigger. Did you go home and cry about it? Or laugh it off?

 

well looking for free handouts simply because of that, would be wrong, in my opinion

you might be on to something

 

I never cried about that. I used to get upset in school because it was daily, and I was one of the few blacks there. It makes you feel helpless IMO.

As for that recent situation, It really didn't have an effect on me. I was more worried about getting into a scuffle with some random nutjob, than being called that.

lol

as a late edit, it's not the overt racism that does the most harm. It's the passive racism, that's institutionalized, that really gets you. Like when you keep seeing a certain group of people get preferential treatment, and become supervisors or directors, even tho other people are just as qualified, but have darker skin.

 

That had to suck. My mom raised us to punch a person in the nose when you were called that. I used to get into a lot of fights. One time I punched out my own cousin who was just being friendly. :smt081

 

I was raised to conquer hatred with education...

i was always told that the worst thing you could do, to someone who thought of you as an inferior n*****, was to gain an education

battles aren't always won with bullets and brawn



late edit - back to that drunk, he asked me for something like change (probably to buy a 40oz), and I said I didn't have it and kept walking. He said some real greezy shit like 'i'm going to kick your ass n*****!'

I kept it movin but I was definitely aware of where he was. I don't like to fight, but I will if I have to.

 

I am in fact a bleeding heart liberal, by just about anyone but a liberal's definition.

I am most certainly not guilty of any racism in my perception of the advantages afforded Black people.

I have far too often played the role of the "white friend" -- who talks to the police, who hails the cabs, who goes on the witness stand during civil suits, who interacts with white people when those white people are too racist to afford basic civil rights to my friends and loved ones. Keeping with the theme of police, in every situation where I have seen police officers, they have walked directly past the Black women, directly past the Black men, and to me to ask what really happened. This is not reflective of class or financial status. They see me, they see I'm a White face in a Black crowd, and they by default afford me authority over the situation. This is not a status quo worth defending.

 

Of course you are guilty of racism. This is the second time you have referred to police officers as if they were all white. You never say, "white police officers".

Apparently you see yourself as a savior for poor, downtrodden blacks who can't make it through the white man's society without the help of "nice" white folks like you. Thanks, but no thanks.

 

I had a similar situtation in college that scared the shit out of me. I was walking on the edge of campus close to the street where bums hang out. If you are familiar with Austin, Texas, it is called the drag. Anyway, some guy looking like a cross between Jesus and Axel Rose approach me with a wild-eyed look and said, starting in a soft voice to reel me in..."You know, I have nothing against black people, I JUST HATE N******!"

I just kept walking, fast to get the hell away from this freak, but as a naive freshman fairly new in town it shook me up a bit. I was on the defensive for quite a while after that.

 

Are you under the impression that Black police officers cannot be racist? I am not.

That was an adorable attempt, but no, that has nothing at all to do with what I've said. Why don't you try to leave some of this phony emotional bullshit alone, and address the argument with logic and/or fact.