College Conspiracy

i dunno

id stick with Drexel myself, since it's near my work. I can go to campus or do stuff online.

ive seen some reviews from U of P and I felt sorry for people that spent all that money. Its NOT a cheap school.

As for CRNP...they do get money..and they get to write scripts and do other stuff normally reserved for doctors.

It's portable as well. You wouldn't be restricted to working in any one state, assuming that reciprocity applied. Great pay, good work hours, what's not to like about that my friend.
 
It's portable as well. If you wouldn't be restricted to working in any on state, assuming that reciprocity applied. Great pay, good work hours, what's not to like about that my friend.

im assuming u mean being able to take your skills and pay expectations nationwide.

that is definitely important.
 
4 years for a BS in nursing, compared to BA in English..

id take the nursing. Experienced RNs around philly have been known to make 40/hr at Temple Hospital and others. If you plan on going further with the BA in English, into Masters/PhD status, then maybe you'll get more money than one of these Philly teachers.

I didnt say you will make alot of money with english but you can get a job. LOL. yeah, you are right though nursing is a slept on field. you dont have to be an RN to be a nurse and do ok. you can go 2 years in college and be a LPN. work for a nursing home and what not.

lol

what are your thoughts on MBA programs

i know they offer some part time in the Killadelph, but do you think their cost is justified?

MBA's are a must depending on the field. bachelors are almost archaic.

My suggestion to you is if you're math minded I would do something in the financial world but something geared towards finance or accounting, science minded then something like nursing or even a physicians assistant but whatever you do make sure you look for some type of direct contact job, something that can't be easily outsourced or something that can be outsourced but people wouldn't go for it like bringing doctors and nurses from other countries. Sometimes xenophobia works to our advantage.

science, science and science. If your degree dont have that word in there then you are almost fucked.

Really...? Shouldn't you have a good grasp of theory if you want to be an engineer or an entrepreneur? If you understand theory then you don't end up re-inventing the wheel. It goes back to the saying, "You don't know what you don't know." Even those who start businesses often fail when businesses outgrow their ability to manage the business. Those that do succeed usually do so because the owner or the investors in the business understand that a "professional" manager is required, typically someone with an MBA, think Facebook and most other investor funded companies. The owner may continue on as a Chairman to provide vision but the day to day business activities are done by professional managers, MBA's . MBA schools offer more than theory through programs that combine practicums in the classroom with internships. Graduates of quality schools command the highest salaries of all graduate programs. You would also be hard-pressed to find someone with the other management ranks of fortune 500 corporations, V.P,'s, President's and C.O.O's and C.E.O.'s.

Notwithstanding the value of an MBA, not everyone is prepared or willing to pursue this path, or even four year college programs. There are still other shorter term options, again as mentioned by other posters, including specialty trade schools, nursing programs and hospital or IT related specialist and technology programs. In some European countries make use of apprenticeship and technology programs that begin in high school, and require little or no additional work after high school. Jobs like dispensing drugs, giving injections or drawing blood in hospitals are often based on such programs.

It really depends on the aspirations and aptitudes of the person. The point is that even in this economy people can choose educational programs that will allow them to live comfortably.

got to have that MBA. baby
 
I recently saw a couple of articles that I thought might be helpful for those thinking about an MBA. They point out the importance of the MBA with companies as well as the pros and cons of in-class versus virtual classroom education, which someone questioned as well. In any case, an MBA can be a valuable degree for you if you are thinking about a career in business or advancement into management ranks.

http://education.yahoo.net/articles/is_an_mba_right_for_you.htm?kid=1G47E

http://education.yahoo.net/articles...946&usid=646de200-887c-11e0-b0c3-0022195be248
 
hell blacks dont like to get a damn education because they want to depend on the church. they go and pray thinking money gonna fall from the sky.

they dont want to face reality. they dont want to face their problems.

Put down your banjo old coon.

America is DEAD LAST amongst industrial nations in education..

That's not Black people's fault.
 
Put down your banjo old coon.

America is DEAD LAST amongst industrial nations in education..

That's not Black people's fault.

dumb ass 1) The U.S. is ranked at 14th in reading, 17th in science and 25th in math out of 34 countries that participated in the PISA exam (This is an exam that is given to all the industrialized countries. the test is given to 15 year olds.) from the 2009 results. what the fuck are you talking about. OH yeah its a fucked up spot for the US to be in. they should be in the top 5.

2) show me where I stated that Black folks brought down the PISA scores. what the fuck are you talking about you uninformed slack jaw yuckle

so again you dumb piece of shit. black folks themselves need to stop going to the thieving pastors feet and sucking his dick and go hustle up an education and get a good job or start their own business and black folks need to be customers of that business. that business need to provide good customer service to keep em coming back.

according to the PISA report if the US increase their scores by 25 points they will be able to get 41 trillion dollars in the US economy within 25 years.

not stop being jackass and let your balls fall. go get educated. stop listening to those nasty ass pastors because they are fleecing your ass. manage you money get a good job its cool to believe in G-d but not listen to the pastor....he's a thief you dumb ass.
 
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I recently saw a couple of articles that I thought might be helpful for those thinking about an MBA. They point out the importance of the MBA with companies as well as the pros and cons of in-class versus virtual classroom education, which someone questioned as well. In any case, an MBA can be a valuable degree for you if you are thinking about a career in business or advancement into management ranks.

http://education.yahoo.net/articles/is_an_mba_right_for_you.htm?kid=1G47E

http://education.yahoo.net/articles...946&usid=646de200-887c-11e0-b0c3-0022195be248

interesting reads

ive been researching MBAs for some time now myself. If I recall correctly, Drexel's online MBA program places you in a 'class' and tries to keep everyone together throughout their semesters. They referred to this as some sort of 'cohort' method to build networks and strong interpersonal relationships. Makes sense when you think about it, and gives you a sense that there is more to online learning than meets the eye.:smt023
 
interesting reads

ive been researching MBAs for some time now myself. If I recall correctly, Drexel's online MBA program places you in a 'class' and tries to keep everyone together throughout their semesters. They referred to this as some sort of 'cohort' method to build networks and strong interpersonal relationships. Makes sense when you think about it, and gives you a sense that there is more to online learning than meets the eye.:smt023

That only works if your cohort is worthwhile.

Many times you'll end up with people who aren't worth a damn. I'd rather do it all on my own.
 
That only works if your cohort is worthwhile.

Many times you'll end up with people who aren't worth a damn. I'd rather do it all on my own.

the entry requirements are pretty tight, and it's a good school. I doubt if I would land into a grad program with a bunch of slackers there. Drexel isn't Penn, but it's not 'No-name' U with no entry requirements either.

besides i'm a lucky person.
:smt080
 
My dumb ass didn't go to college and I'm currently contemplating an offer for a 6 figure position in Pasadena where I'd be reporting directly to the CIO.

I have fortunately come to the realization some time ago that the association between success and salary does not apply to me. I don't buy into the belief that I am identified by in the things that I own, or that my life will be enhanced by owning more shit.

Our society has been thoroughly brainwashed in consumerism which tells us that our happiness and self-identification is in the shit we 'own', to acquire this we need more and more money which means we need a better job which means we need a better education. All of these so-called needs, it's no wonder we're so stressed.

Anyways, whatever..... I'm going to go find a tree to hug. :rock:
 
My dumb ass didn't go to college and I'm currently contemplating an offer for a 6 figure position in Pasadena where I'd be reporting directly to the CIO.

I have fortunately come to the realization some time ago that the association between success and salary does not apply to me. I don't buy into the belief that I am identified by in the things that I own, or that my life will be enhanced by owning more shit.

Our society has been thoroughly brainwashed in consumerism which tells us that our happiness and self-identification is in the shit we 'own', to acquire this we need more and more money which means we need a better job which means we need a better education. All of these so-called needs, it's no wonder we're so stressed.

Anyways, whatever..... I'm going to go find a tree to hug. :rock:

Interesting pov but unfortunately I think being black in America often times leaves one with the impression you have to always prove yourself to justify your existence. It may also be easy for one to say why would you let the otside world have so much influence over you but its difficult for it not to when if affects where you can live and the lifestyle you have. Shit it even affects who may love you or not. I'm looking forward to this summer. A lot of traveling ahead.
 
Interesting pov but unfortunately I think being black in America often times leaves one with the impression you have to always prove yourself to justify your existence. It may also be easy for one to say why would you let the otside world have so much influence over you but its difficult for it not to when if affects where you can live and the lifestyle you have. Shit it even affects who may love you or not. I'm looking forward to this summer. A lot of traveling ahead.

Agreed, but I don't think it's just a black thing. We do have a habit of glorifying our material possessions where others do not. About every culture identifies themselves with worthless possessions. A white man in a fancy car is no different than a black man in a fancy car in that respect (well, maybe they still have factory rims).

As far as money affecting where you live and the lifestyle that you can have, it's all up to the person. A person can have what others would perceive as a nice life and still feel that they need more shit. With regard to love, if someone loves you for what you have it's not you that they love in the first place.

Where are you traveling?
 
Agreed, but I don't think it's just a black thing. We do have a habit of glorifying our material possessions where others do not. About every culture identifies themselves with worthless possessions. A white man in a fancy car is no different than a black man in a fancy car in that respect (well, maybe they still have factory rims).

As far as money affecting where you live and the lifestyle that you can have, it's all up to the person. A person can have what others would perceive as a nice life and still feel that they need more shit. With regard to love, if someone loves you for what you have it's not you that they love in the first place.

Where are you traveling?

Jamaica in September
Canada both Toronto and Vancouver next month.
Next week Vermont for zip lining and then down to PA to white water raft next week.
I'm still firming up filming spots for my documentary this summer. First Loving Day in NYC in two weeks then hopefully Missouri the following week. I'm actually gonna get out and see this country this summer.
 
Jamaica in September
Canada both Toronto and Vancouver next month.
Next week Vermont for zip lining and then down to PA to white water raft next week.
I'm still firming up filming spots for my documentary this summer. First Loving Day in NYC in two weeks then hopefully Missouri the following week. I'm actually gonna get out and see this country this summer.

That's whats up! Enjoy your travels.
 
I dont think this is neccessarily the case. Ive heard of people not getting hired because they have a degree and the employer will know that they will demand more money. So they have had to dumb down their resumes. The objective is to get a solid entry level job or a marketable skill. Thats how you will succeed. You dont really need a degree to be successful.

If you want to start your own business you dont need a degree for that. Just some smarts and determinaion.

many people are PROUD of their accomplishments and PROUDLY list them. But like you said, an employer might think they'll demand more or will simply leave and get another job when a better opportunity presents itself.
 
I dont think this is neccessarily the case. Ive heard of people not getting hired because they have a degree and the employer will know that they will demand more money. So they have had to dumb down their resumes. The objective is to get a solid entry level job or a marketable skill. Thats how you will succeed. You dont really need a degree to be successful.

If you want to start your own business you dont need a degree for that. Just some smarts and determinaion.

many people are PROUD of their accomplishments and PROUDLY list them. But like you said, an employer might think they'll demand more or will simply leave and get another job when a better opportunity presents itself.

yeah I have read articles of people doing that. It is a catch 22. you could be in your 40's and they are looking at you and your resume and may say slacker. LOL

on the other hand you could get a new degree/trade and start over in a hot field. it could be done and help out.
 
Watched all 62 minutes of the video, it's funny as hell.

My opinion is that you should really go to college, ignore the spin that they're trying to put on this.

When our nation's deficits are reduced and the deficit becomes a surplus, perhaps college tuition could decrease. If college tuition costs were lower, this movie wouldn't have even been made. That is the premise the entire movie is arguing on.
 
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