Elin now dating a white guy

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TreePixie said:
Raising kids...being a good parent and helping to launch good humans into the world is actually a rather important job.

(We require licenses to drive, to marry, to own a weapon - but anyone can reproduce - no I'm not suggesting licenses for child rearing).
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the way things are going we ma need to license fools. LOL
 
Espy said:
And goodlove, before you wander in here to tell your tale of woe and assert that all us ex-wives are money crazy bitches who won't let men see their kids, please save it, I don't want to hear it. Your one experience does not translate into the experience of all men everywhere. If you want something, you fight for it, in divorce I have found that is particularly true. If you don't fight & keep fighting, and you don't get what you want, you have no room to bitch.

Your ex was mean, she lied, she uses your child as a bargaining chip... it's not right, but it's a divorce, they aren't easy or enjoyable. Rarely do you find two individuals who can be reasonable in a divorce, even if issues like infidelity don't exist, there is just something about divorce that makes a lot of people crazy and mean spirited. It's something you just have to get through so you can move on. As Jordan said, if you aren't happy with the results, go back and fight. Saying that it's expensive to do that and bitching that it costs men more in a divorce is horseshit. Yes divorce attorneys cost you, sometimes a lot, and it can be incredibly time consuming, but saying I didn't get custody of my kid because it would have cost me too much to fight... how is that not putting a price tag on your relationship with your child? That's a rhetorical question BTW, and an answer isn't necessary.

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Thanks Espy. He needs to hear it.

Two words for Goodlove. Legal aid. If you don't qualify for free services there then you should have the money to mount your own legal action. Go to mediators. There are cheap ways to go.

If you don't do it then stfu the whining. Action or zipit. No one can take advantage of you without your permission.
 
Can someone please explain the luck factor in sports to me. Especially in an arena that's quantatively opposed to qualitatively. I'm seriously not kidding when I say I don't get it. Its not like the arts where its determined by taste. In sports don't you have to show you're faster or stronger? Don't you have to show you have more endurance or more accuracy over nd over?
 
MrFantastic said:
How about you're not biased since you want arguehow undeserving Tiger is of the very money his ex wife seems to be entitled to. No criticism of her not working for it. Other than giving birth which was her choice not his what entitles her to 100 million dollars.
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This right here.

Strip away the ol' white female entitlement that's driving this thread and this is what it boils down to.

D_B trying to cloud the issue by saying we're "fetishizing" sports stars. Whikle saying her words were twisted. No I get the message loud and clear.
 
karmacoma. said:
This right here.

Strip away the ol' white female entitlement that's driving this thread and this is what it boils down to.

D_B trying to cloud the issue by saying we're "fetishizing" sports stars. Whikle saying her words were twisted. No I get the message loud and clear.
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And what is the message?

Of course sports starts are being fetishized. WTF do they do that's worth a goddamn thing???
 
karmacoma. said:
This right here.

Strip away the ol' white female entitlement that's driving this thread and this is what it boils down to.

D_B trying to cloud the issue by saying we're "fetishizing" sports stars. Whikle saying her words were twisted. No I get the message loud and clear.
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Careful brotha careful. We should just shut up and be happy they speak to us lol.
 
Dreaming_Blue said:
And what is the message?

Of course sports starts are being fetishized. WTF do they do that's worth a goddamn thing???
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Go to another lame ass Tori Amos concert DB and say that. Just because its of no value to you doesn't mean its of value to no one. The ego on this chick I swear. Thank God she has a rack I can stare at lol
 
MrFantastic said:
Go to another lame ass Tori Amos concert DB and say that. Just because its of no value to you doesn't mean its of value to no one. The ego on this chick I swear. Thank God she has a rack I can stare at lol
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OK, here's the difference.

I do think Tori is talented. Would I pay money to have her name on a jersey? Hell to the no. There's some dumb shit out there with her name on it. I'm not going there and spending money on it. AND, sometimes tickets for her shows run upwards of $160. NO WAY am I paying that.

I appreciate her music and purchase it, and occasionally I see her in concert. But if she and her husband got divorced, I'd never say 'Well, she's so clearly worth more as a human than her husband is. WTF has he done to warrant 100 million dollars?'

So, explain to me again what makes Tiger Woods so effin' special?! PLEASE!! Can someone do this????
 
man, another one of my threads side-tracked again......to get it back on track, i as the op, will get it back on track.....elin was quick to run back to a white guy after she soaked tiger for all he is worth, and is getting played by him like she played tiger. the feeling is she didn't deserve 100 mill she recieved in the divorce just for being married to a rich guy. that is completely seperate from child support and shuldn't be connected. if you don't want kids, abstinence or condoms will remove that concern.
likewise defending the reciever of money but attacking the maker of it, isn't a rational or logical basis of argument.
but on a side note, as been said once or twice by myself, i'm not a fan of those who come into the middle of threads and give lectures about decorum, but at the same time throw insults themselves. this is an adult forum and doesn't need babysitters, especially on the grunds that ppl they are defending talk as much shit as the ppl they are conversing with.
p.s. nice responses get nice replies, nasty ones get nasty things in return.
 
Dreaming_Blue said:
OK, here's the difference.

I do think Tori is talented. Would I pay money to have her name on a jersey? Hell to the no. There's some dumb shit out there with her name on it. I'm not going there and spending money on it. AND, sometimes tickets for her shows run upwards of $160. NO WAY am I paying that.

I appreciate her music and purchase it, and occasionally I see her in concert. But if she and her husband got divorced, I'd never say 'Well, she's so clearly worth more as a human than her husband is. WTF has he done to warrant 100 million dollars?'

So, explain to me again what makes Tiger Woods so effin' special?! PLEASE!! Can someone do this????
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The only people that can measure their worth as humans is their family and loved ones. This is a detour that no one youre arguing with signed up for.
 
Db its been explained to death to you and no answer outside of women deserve everything for just being here will work for you.
Why is love for Tori Amos any different than Tiger?
I never said nor has anyone said Tiger was a better human being or worth more than Elin. The argument has always been she did absolutely nothing to earn or deserve 20% of that mans wealth and all you or your fellow power puff girls can offer as an argument is that she had his kids. Which is a weak and pitiful answer since they were her kids and shed made the decision to have them. She never picked up a golf club except to hit him even though you guys want to use lame nonsense like she actually helped him get endorsements. Like that had more to do with him making money than the fact he was a fucking juggernaut in the golf world. I'm going to put this plainly. He earned and acquired the vast bulk of that money before she got there and after she got there she didn't help him earn anything that was all his hard work and talent.

Dreaming_Blue said:
OK, here's the difference.

I do think Tori is talented. Would I pay money to have her name on a jersey? Hell to the no. There's some dumb shit out there with her name on it. I'm not going there and spending money on it. AND, sometimes tickets for her shows run upwards of $160. NO WAY am I paying that.

I appreciate her music and purchase it, and occasionally I see her in concert. But if she and her husband got divorced, I'd never say 'Well, she's so clearly worth more as a human than her husband is. WTF has he done to warrant 100 million dollars?'

So, explain to me again what makes Tiger Woods so effin' special?! PLEASE!! Can someone do this????
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Dreaming_Blue said:
And what is the message?

Of course sports starts are being fetishized. WTF do they do that's worth a goddamn thing???
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The message from you ladies is this:

a) Tiger is nothing special, his success was a "fluke," and he was "lucky." No respect for the single-minded hard work that himself and his father put in to make him who is he is today. You women sound like those racist sports announcers who used to say blacks had natural gifts and were "lucky", but the white players were smarter and more hard-working i.e. deserving.

Nobody is side-stepping the fact he cheated but that doesn't make him an asshole who stumbled ass-backward into billions. Wake up.

b) Part of his success came from him projecting the image of a family man. Nope, he was rich before that and still would have been had he not married. In fact the way it turned out, it would have been better had he not married. Clooney's getting along just fine thanks. Try again, ladies.

c) We are not talking about "sports stars" in general, but TIGER. Focus.

d) That Elin is ENTITLED to the very dough you all are trying to downplay. An automatic 20% just for having his kids as I recall.

e) If this was about some girlie shit like the stars of Twilight, or like Andrae said, some Wiccan, feminist bullshit or anything else that you yourself like, there would be no question about those stars deserving every penny they get and more.

Fuck do you do that's worth a goddamn thing is the real question. Sports stars EMPLOY PEOPLE.

And I'm not even a sports fan per se.

Karma out.
 
LUCK = being chosen to endorse a product

NOT SO LUCKY = you are very talented but unfortunately because you are a rat bastard in your personal life and it has hit ever newstand and media outlet we no longer want you endorsing our product

POPULAR SPORTS FIGURE = talented, well known household name

UNPOPULAR SPORTS FIGURE = talented, known for all the wrong reasons
 
Just sliding in sideways to note the following:

Perhaps Elin, like me, is just open to men of all races, and didn't "run back to a white man," she just met a guy she liked who *happened* to be white.
 
karmacoma. said:
Yeah, and being told to take a long walk off a short pier is the milk of human kindness. Good job, mod.
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oh stop it karmsy. being told to take a long walk off a short pier and his comment cannot be compared seeing we all know db's health issues and iggy's dislike for women over the size of 0
 
Dreaming_Blue said:
OK, here's the difference.

I do think Tori is talented. Would I pay money to have her name on a jersey? Hell to the no. There's some dumb shit out there with her name on it. I'm not going there and spending money on it. AND, sometimes tickets for her shows run upwards of $160. NO WAY am I paying that.

I appreciate her music and purchase it, and occasionally I see her in concert. But if she and her husband got divorced, I'd never say 'Well, she's so clearly worth more as a human than her husband is. WTF has he done to warrant 100 million dollars?'

So, explain to me again what makes Tiger Woods so effin' special?! PLEASE!! Can someone do this????
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They are taking up for Tiger Woods....a guy that wouldn't even speak to their Black asses.
 
Tarshi said:
oh stop it karmsy. being told to take a long walk off a short pier and his comment cannot be compared seeing we all know db's health issues and iggy's dislike for women over the size of 0
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In other words one insult gets a pass, but the black dude is a pig. Got it, mod.
 
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