Women Damaged by Gay Father growing up.

[Bliss]

As far as we know, the Greeks invented democracy as we know it. None of the cultures uncovered in ancient Africa have yet shown that not to be true. To be sure, massive climate change in the area of the Sahara may have covered entire civilizations, as the jungles did in South and Central America. Nevertheless, as far we know as of know, there's no reason to think the Greeks didn't invent it.



No one is suggesting that "most" people are homosexual or bisexual, but Kinsey's work was groundbreaking. You're missing the gradations on the scale.

The Kinsey Report, originally published in 1948 and 1953 (men and women surveyed separately) was a blockbuster in its time, especially as people were far *less* likely to admit to homosexuality in those days. I'm putting in a link to the Kinsey Institute below, and you can go check out data for yourself if you like. The Kinsey Institute has been involved in sexuality research since the 1940s

The Kinsey Scale

FAQ Sexuality Questions Most Frequently Asked

And a bit on the history of the Institute and how it came by the original data for the first studies:
The beginnings of The Kinsey Institute can be traced to 1938 when the Association of Women Students petitioned Indiana University for a course for students who were married or contemplating marriage. Dr. Alfred C. Kinsey, a Harvard-trained professor of zoology, was asked to coordinate the course.

In preparing for the course, Dr. Kinsey discovered that few scientific data existed on human sexual behavior. What studies did exist were in general either extremely value-laden or based on very small numbers of clinical patients, so Dr. Kinsey began collecting his own data. Eventually he and his research associates obtained more than 18,000 sexual histories based on in-depth, face-to-face interviews.

By 1941, Kinsey's pioneering work had earned the financial support of the National Research Council, at that time funded by the Rockefeller Foundation. This support continued until 1954. In 1947, in order to guarantee absolute confidentiality to individuals interviewed and to provide a secure, permanent location for the growing collection of interview data and other materials Dr. Kinsey was collecting on human sexuality, the institute was established as a not-for-profit corporation affiliated with Indiana University.

Several names for the fledgling institute were discussed ("Indiana Sex Research Institute," "Kinsey Research Institute," "Institute for the Study of Human Behavior," and "Sex Research Institute") before the "Institute for Sex Research" was decided upon. Dr. Kinsey transferred ownership of all his research materials to the new institute for $1.00. The first trustees of the Institute were Alfred Kinsey, Paul Gebhard, Clyde Martin, and Wardell Pomeroy.

Beleive it or not, I think I had the book that I read many years ago as a teen. (Years after it was published) If it's the same book, the book I read noted that kids tended to dabble in same gender sex activities, but they were summed up as games (ie: doctors and nurses, or how far can each boy ejaculate and the furthest was the winner). It was not deemed sexually based.
I recall a chapter on homosexuality and people recited their sexual experiences and it was weird reading it, as teen. (Today to read it as an adult it affects me none.)

 

[TheHuntress]

Greece (Athens) may have been the birthplace of democracy/ founders of democracy but understand that Africa is a mere boat's throw away and the cultures interacted. Greek books were found in the first ever University (in Timbuktu) and as such I can fairly assume the knowledge exchanges went both ways. So while I respect history, it is not always all encompassing. (think if our history were to be written today, if it would accurately portray us ALL as a people)

As for homosexuality, the wiki page noted there were no sexual identity labels, only the act of dominance (giving) and submission (receiving). This supports my theory of dominant men taking boys. It even cites in its hereto example of men in their 30's taking tween wives...again, the dominant aspect I speak of.
So the question I ask is - were 'all' those men who partook in homosexual behavior born that way or became that way via cultural influences. This is why I don't ascribe 100% to the theory that all men who have homosexual sex are gay. Look at prisons. (for both genders). Often its companionship and a desire to bust a nut. My male friend fucks both genders because he says he's a a freak for sex. How do you explain these people who have homosexual experiences, but are no intrinsically gay.

Actually, if you look into Sparta, you'll find that homosexuality was encouraged- it was believed if you fought next to your lover, you'd fight that much harder to survive. Women dressed as men on their wedding day because their husband to be had spent his entire life from age 7 with other men.

As for the video, that whole episode pissed me off. It's from 30 Days, by Morgan Spurlock. That bitch who stayed with that couple was rude from day 1, and when they called her on her shit, she played the 'woe is me' card so many damn times I wanted to claw her eyes out. She gave every single Mormon in the world a bad name by the way she behaved.

I applaud Morgan for trying to get a lot of viewpoints out there, but that segment of the show only said to me that parenting is not exclusive to sexuality. Heterosexual couples ruin the lives of their children with mistakes every day. Homosexual couples can have the same potential.

 

[Morning Star]

I've always wanted to watch that series. Does it still come on?

Actually, if you look into Sparta, you'll find that homosexuality was encouraged- it was believed if you fought next to your lover, you'd fight that much harder to survive. Women dressed as men on their wedding day because their husband to be had spent his entire life from age 7 with other men.

As for the video, that whole episode pissed me off. It's from 30 Days, by Morgan Spurlock. That bitch who stayed with that couple was rude from day 1, and when they called her on her shit, she played the 'woe is me' card so many damn times I wanted to claw her eyes out. She gave every single Mormon in the world a bad name by the way she behaved.

I applaud Morgan for trying to get a lot of viewpoints out there, but that segment of the show only said to me that parenting is not exclusive to sexuality. Heterosexual couples ruin the lives of their children with mistakes every day. Homosexual couples can have the same potential.

 

[TreePixie]

Actually, if you look into Sparta, you'll find that homosexuality was encouraged- it was believed if you fought next to your lover, you'd fight that much harder to survive. Women dressed as men on their wedding day because their husband to be had spent his entire life from age 7 with other men.

Indeed. And in ancient Rome, there was no "shame" attached to being the non-recipient member of a homosexual pairing - and the shame which attached to the recipient member activity was because it made them "like a woman" and in ancient Rome, women were particularly diminished in status.

I see a great many similarities between misogyny and the way we treat homosexuals, especially gay men, in our society. The names they get called, for instance "sissy" imply being like a woman, with the underlying ideology being that women are "lesser" than men.

 

[TreePixie]

misogyny .......great are we really headed down that well beaten (by you) road with you?

Not headed down any road, paniro. Just noting that a lot of the hate directed towards homosexual men comes from the view of them as being "like women"...and the clear implication there is of woman as "lesser."

Tends to make feminists and LGBT folks and feminists rather natural allies.

 

[Bliss]

Oh god dammit you little shit, listen to yourself! You're obviously falling for that nonsense! You're fixated on their "lifestyle"? Why not disregard the fact that they are gay and rather see the REALITY that the parents weren't great at all because of their careless, poor parenting skills, huh? How fucking hard is that for your retarded ass to get? If you didn't get it once, then you'll NEVER get it at all.

WTF, you cant be serious? You’re the one fixated on the video makers knocking their lifestyle when I JUST TOLD YOU WHO GIVES A FUCK if the video people focus on their lifestyle- FOCUS on the damn child, nimrod!

Again, there is absolute denial from those articles you posted by gay authors that a gay person could ever raise a child incorrectly, so when a woman stepped forward to directly cite how her father’s lifestyle did, you ejaculated in horror. I’m focusing on the OP topic, you’re the dickhead who keeps sooking “it’s the agenda people making her poor parents look bad” and how it “sickened you” to quote you.

No you Casey Anthony look-a-like that rummaged Oscar the crouch's can for crackpipes. That sort of bullshit is as bad as saying a gay kid in a heterosexual household will automatically be confused and fucked up. But no your simple INSISTS that being gay contributes to it.

Show me empirical evidence that a person's sexual orientation contributes negatively to the household. You simply. And I say this too, asshole, because a person's sexual orientation is predominantly biological AND given the fact that the VAST majority of gay parenting is overwhelmingly positive, it debunks whatever nonsense you'll assert.

You still think praying will "correct" a person's sexual orientation. Why in the hell would I argue with someone who believes in fairy-tales, Nemesis?

This is why you’re a fucking amateur at life, because you think you’re above people. Your empirical evidence is in post #1 link. Are you that mentally deficient?

Earth to fucking idiot, many kids who are gay grow up feeling alienated, ostracized and not belonging in their household. Some kill themselves. Just because you snap your fingers and bend your ass for entry to all, doesn't mean their kids have your confidence to embrace their sexuality.

So stick your automatic up your loose ass – not once did I say automatically, ever. Again, I am countering your insistence that gay people’s behavior does not affect a child, when it does when that behavior negatively impacts the child. Case in point, this whole thread when the girl said her gender was minimized, while males were not. How many times do I have to type that to get it through your thick head?

You still didn’t provide me ONE link where gays have criticized themselves when it comes to parenting, like heterosexuals freely do when discussing their parenting skills. You’re a FUCKING HYPOCRITE stuck in denial to “prove your point that failed at #17 when you said anyone who is critical of gays is gay themselves. And then proceeded to use Harry Reid as your example. Real intellectual insight there, dunce.

Where did you EVER hear ME say that I say gays can pray it away. You said no person can ever change their orientation from being gay and I mentioned a man who did that who was on Joy’s show who wrote a book on it. You got issues with that, take it up with him, fucktard.

“Nemesis”, wtf are you even typing??

Poor analogy. But to humor you, given that he actually represents a district, he/she can educate the public by voting on the effects of it, instead of going by party lines. That's how it really works.

Correction. The New York gay marriage situation, some Republicans within their district ACTUALLY crossed over in FAVOR of it, not because of what the constituents believe, but the fact that they actually voted based on personal reasoning. The only you see what you've mentioned on your post is through political pressure by speculation from the media (David Dreier) OR a family member who's for a cause contrary to the parent who's in office (a Minnesota state rep.)

Really? So do tell us who the Republicans are who went against their constituents because of personal beliefs. Cant wait to hear your answers, lol. What ever the rest of the crap you wrote makes no sense, loon. MN is not NY.

Such childish comments like that only shows that you're too immature and incapable of recognizing fact from fiction and for YOU to even think I'm gay only further proves how incapable you are rationalizing your claims. Oh yeah, that's right...I put a little dent in your ego because of your overly passionate damn near bestial obsession with animals. Little girl, if you EVEN want to be taken seriously and not be labeled as an unstable nut that escape the mental ward, then I'd suggest some prozac and some a black dick that doesn't belong to a black dog.

Dent in my ego? Lmao. The TRUTH IS, you’re the type of animal hater who is the FIRST TO FUCK THEM. We see your type all the time who abuse animals. I on the other hand, have empathy for animals and try to protect them from perverts like you. You’re the one who throws up sexually deviant and bestial pictures that you find exciting, and as a result your fetishes are looked upon as disgusting, particularly since you look for any excuse to flash these images to the women on here because that’s how you get off. Not to mention showing images of other men’s black cocks that you acquired from your personal stack from monster cocks in my ass.com with your gold membership status.

 

[Bliss]

No jackass, we have this thing called a brain. Thank you for demonstrating your lack of intelligence here. We use the brain to THINK, CREATE, and means to SURVIVE. Simply having claws and teeth don't make us the best and on top. Our ability to survive make us better than other creatures. See, the brain allows us to operate and think and that kept us alive for a long time.

And three you go again, assuming you’re the only species with a brain. Did you get dropped you on your head as an infant? How you can say with conviction that only humans have lived on this earth for a very long time, or have the ability to survive,and as such makes us superior.
Because no other animal on earth has demonstrated the aforementioned, huh? They have no ability to think, outsmart, out wit or outfight. One on one, we can overpower all animals on this earth? Man I’d love to see you shit your pants if a bear or elephant came up on you. Who would be superior then, lol. You need a gun to get out of that one alive, trust that!

Apparently you think that we still haven't evolved from the African ape and rather we were born from incestuous relations with brothers and sisters. Oh and that the first human being came from dirt. Okay. Good job making a mockery of yourself.

This is like arguing with an infant. Where praytell did I say any of that crap. I called you out by saying that our African ancestors lived as one with the land and respected animals and their sacrifices…and you interpret it that I said “we were African ape and rather we were born from incestuous relations with brothers and sisters. Oh and that the first human being came from dirt” WTF? What drugs are you on?? Holy shit.

And yes, there's a difference between being someone who wishes for humans to get equal rights as oppose to think all life is sacred, which is a horrendous contradiction to the reality of things and how we exercise it through exhausting our resources yet created things to help others and other animals.

Your latter line makes NO SENSE.
As for your former line, explaining the reality to you is very frustrating. Once again, I have to. If we take an animal’s life to nourish our bodies, it must be respected and honored. Our forefathers (and people like me) understood that sacred act. Selfish people like you must understand that you cannot starve, rape, slaughter and beat, abuse, torture and maim animals at will because you think you are dominant. That is not God’s plan. Dominion means to protect and guard that which we oversee. You should be thankful and grateful that an animal sacrifices their life to feed you. You will pay a dear price for your arrogance, vile expectations, support and encouragement of torture to those shackled and locked in a life of misery, much like how your ancestors were.

Now you're being VERY silly and now I'm really certain you have a mental problem. You didn't read the last comment thoroughly. I've stated that we practice selfishness as well as altruism and for you to ignore that fact only tells me you're WAY out of left field and your posts shows. And we're not talking about me personally, as an individual kiddo. Rather, I'm speaking collectively as the human race. We all have done our part in society to help out others through conventional and unconventional means.

I ignored your altruism comment because its lip service coming from you. The truth is, many haven’t partaken in it in modern day civilization in a long time. And we are all paying the price for the actions of people like you. Because you are a perfect example and representative of pure selfishness, so please do not detach yourself too to far from your analogies by saying that you are speaking collectively for the human race...you are also speaking of they type of selfish person that YOU are.

And secondly, you sure as hell don't know what you're talking about. Non human animals contribute to the productivity as well as the destruction of the world. Remember the food chain? Some animals are carnivores in need to survive and certain animals, air, land and sea can be VERY deadly for the natural habitat. Case in point? Nutria rats! How stupid are you really, Anne? How is it that you're willing to make all these retarded assumptions and still insist on talking out your ass?

Look who's talking out their ass now. Nutria rats. Really? So you call me a retard, and then use Nutria rats as your example. Nutria rats aka beavers BECAME a problem because human fur traders over bred them for cosmetic reasons, and as a result introduced them into THREE OTHER CONTINENTS. Shall I type that again for your simpleton ass? Humans are to blame. They are NOT indigenous to three continents, but thanks to man and their over-breeding them, there they go, destroying the land. Anything else from your numskull?

In case you didn't know, you have been branded a nut on here and it's definitely not a good thing. You have shown that you're not able to hold your own at all. I've provided information for your dumbass, but you're only making yourself look more stupid if you continue to post ridiculous jargon to save face.

I can hold my own very well thanks, I called out your ass trying to save face in the Casey thread and you're still salty…reversing my language on me won't work, kiddo. Second time you’ve tried it in this thread – be original, ok?

You branding me a nut on here is way more preferable than to what you’ve been branded as, which is a creepy, pervy, stalkerish, devil worshiping, insane cackling laugh, effeminate, weird voice message leaving turrets-style posting jackass, who doesn’t think his shit stinks.

 

[Bliss]

Not headed down any road, paniro. Just noting that a lot of the hate directed towards homosexual men comes from the view of them as being "like women"...and the clear implication there is of woman as "lesser."

Tends to make feminists and LGBT folks and feminists rather natural allies.

So you have nothing to say how the woman felt her gay father minimized her position as a woman, while raising the status of males?

 

[Bliss]

Actually, if you look into Sparta, you'll find that homosexuality was encouraged- it was believed if you fought next to your lover, you'd fight that much harder to survive. Women dressed as men on their wedding day because their husband to be had spent his entire life from age 7 with other men....

Fighting next to your lover waas encouraged? Please show me where that is a historical fact?

As for brides dressed as men because that's all he knew, according to Paul Cartledge, it had nothing to so with your statement, and this is why it occurred....

"The "abduction" (by the bridemaid) may have served to ward off the evil eye,and the cutting of the wife's hair was perhaps part of a rite of passage that signaled her entrance into a new life."

 

[Morning Star]

Focus on the damn child!? I'm VERY focused on her. In fact, I'm so focused on her, I clearly see she's blaming homosexuality for the way she is and that my dear, is called a cop out. Ever took noticed of that asshole? She's making any excuse to hold her bigoted behavior. Yes, she's been harmed, but think that she's more likely to look at the FACT that poor parenting was the cause? Sounds like she didn't.

WTF, you cant be serious? You’re the one fixated on the video makers knocking their lifestyle when I JUST TOLD YOU WHO GIVES A FUCK if the video people focus on their lifestyle- FOCUS on the damn child, nimrod!

Again you little shit, read my damn post. Citing a person's sexual orientation as the root of her mental problems as opposed to poor parenting skills only serves as a damn cop out for her attitude towards homosexuality in general. Had it been a heterosexual household, I highly doubt they would focus on their lifestyle of sexual identity of the family, now would she? Absolutely not. And for the record, the articles suggest that gay families are no different at all when it comes to parenting.

Again, there is absolute denial from those articles you posted by gay authors that a gay person could ever raise a child incorrectly, so when a woman stepped forward to directly cite how her father’s lifestyle did, you ejaculated in horror. I’m focusing on the OP topic, you’re the dickhead who keeps sooking “it’s the agenda people making her poor parents look bad” and how it “sickened you” to quote you.

I'm the amateur because you're trying to hold onto an argument you simply cannot win because you're not able to provide evidence for your illogical bantering? Got it. Remember, you're the one that can't hold your own in this discussion, so don't even try and argue with me.

This is why you’re a fucking amateur at life, because you think you’re above people. Your empirical evidence is in post #1 link. Are you that mentally deficient?

You're still being immature accusing me of being gay? That's awfully sad. And secondly, the fault isn't the gay parents. It's the very society that ostracize those because they come from those kind of families and it's that conservative society that place a certain expectation or pressure for the kid to not feel accepted. They key here is called education and it takes a lot to help them cope with all that. But, all that flew over your damn head as usual.

Earth to fucking idiot, many kids who are gay grow up feeling alienated, ostracized and not belonging in their household. Some kill themselves. Just because you snap your fingers and bend your ass for entry to all, doesn't mean their kids have your confidence to embrace their sexuality.

The girl made that ridiculous assumption and didn't provide any details at all when it comes to that. The only assumption we have here is that because she's in a home with two dads, she THINKS that she can't find femininity in her identity when that's complete and utter bullshit. Tell that busted logic to children who grew up in single parent homes all their lives. Again, overly sexual behavior, regardless of sexual orientation are the cause of it more than simply the person's orientation.

So stick your automatic up your loose ass – not once did I say automatically, ever. Again, I am countering your insistence that gay people’s behavior does not affect a child, when it does when that behavior negatively impacts the child. Case in point, this whole thread when the girl said her gender was minimized, while males were not. How many times do I have to type that to get it through your thick head?

First off, I did NOT use Harry Reid as an example. Thanks for having the attention span of a gnat like you normally do. And secondly, if you really want proof, you may want to watch this video in which there was an experiment conducted. If this doesn't give you some insight, then you're a lost cause.

You still didn’t provide me ONE link where gays have criticized themselves when it comes to parenting, like heterosexuals freely do when discussing their parenting skills. You’re a FUCKING HYPOCRITE stuck in denial to “prove your point that failed at #17 when you said anyone who is critical of gays is gay themselves. And then proceeded to use Harry Reid as your example. Real intellectual insight there, dunce.

Yes and you believe that nonsense apparently, hence I had to remind you of that easily. How can you call that "interesting" when it's clearly bullshit? That's an accurate answer.

And secondly, Nemesis? Look at your Greek history.

Where did you EVER hear ME say that I say gays can pray it away. You said no person can ever change their orientation from being gay and I mentioned a man who did that who was on Joy’s show who wrote a book on it. You got issues with that, take it up with him, fucktard.

“Nemesis”, wtf are you even typing??

Since you never paid attention to the NY Gay Marriage law being enacted, look no further than Senator Mark J. Grisanti, Stephen M. Saland, Roy J. McDonald and James Alessi who actually voted on their conscience. And given that you probably are too hard-headed and not even bother clicking it, here is a quote from Senator Grisanti on his take on the matter. He voted against it before, but this time he did and he had this to say: “I apologize for those who feel offended,” Mr. Grisanti said, adding, “I cannot deny a person, a human being, a taxpayer, a worker, the people of my district and across this state, the State of New York, and those people who make this the great state that it is the same rights that I have with my wife.”

Really? So do tell us who the Republicans are who went against their constituents because of personal beliefs. Cant wait to hear your answers, lol. What ever the rest of the crap you wrote makes no sense, loon. MN is not NY.

Wow, you're coming off far too abrasive, it's blinding your bullshit rhetoric. Don't mistake me for you. After all, you have an uptight sexual lust after a dog, not me. I'd refuse to even go near those things, so it's only laughable that you're responding out of anger and your usual nuttiness.

And sure, I post images on here for shock value and many of the people here do find it amusing. Sorry you can't differentiate between fetish and shock value. You're the last person anyone were to trust their pets with because you're crazy enough to think they are human. Well, you are what you become and it's sad to see you jump on the nutty wagon on this magnitude.

Dent in my ego? Lmao. The TRUTH IS, you’re the type of animal hater who is the FIRST TO FUCK THEM. We see your type all the time who abuse animals. I on the other hand, have empathy for animals and try to protect them from perverts like you. You’re the one who throws up sexually deviant and bestial pictures that you find exciting, and as a result your fetishes are looked upon as disgusting, particularly since you look for any excuse to flash these images to the women on here because that’s how you get off. Not to mention showing images of other men’s black cocks that you acquired from your personal stack from monster cocks in my ass.com with your gold membership status.[/QUOTE]

 

[Morning Star]

I never stated we're the only species with a brain, jackass, NOR did I state that we've lived longer than other species of animal. The modern human or homosexual sapien existed for 200,000+ years hence why I've stated that we've survived for a long time. Pay attention. It'll make you look less of a fool.

And again, you're overexaggerating your claims and making statements I never said. We're capable of survival because can make use of the very tools on this planet. I never stated strength either, so wherever you get your information (out your imagination or ass), you need to reread my posts. You're really losing ground on this and I've been keeping this up and will for as long as I can.

And three you go again, assuming you’re the only species with a brain. Did you get dropped you on your head as an infant? How you can say with conviction that only humans have lived on this earth for a very long time, or have the ability to survive,and as such makes us superior.
Because no other animal on earth has demonstrated the aforementioned, huh? They have no ability to think, outsmart, out wit or outfight. One on one, we can overpower all animals on this earth? Man I’d love to see you shit your pants if a bear or elephant came up on you. Who would be superior then, lol. You need a gun to get out of that one alive, trust that!

Again, misconstruing my comments like an autistic kid with Asperger's won't get you anywhere. Looking back at the comment, I didn't see anything relating to you bringing up African ancestors, animals and their sacrifices. I smell you talking out your ass again. Plus, in case you've forgotten, those very Africans actually did hunt, kill, and eat animals as well so they can survive? Did you forget that or you thought they all survived on nuts and fruit? You're really a dumbass.

And secondly, since you didn't bother reading my post correctly, here's what I've implied: "We're a product of evolution and not a product of a supreme being creating people from dirt." Your attention span was lost in the conversation on this one.

This is like arguing with an infant. Where praytell did I say any of that crap. I called you out by saying that our African ancestors lived as one with the land and respected animals and their sacrifices…and you interpret it that I said “we were African ape and rather we were born from incestuous relations with brothers and sisters. Oh and that the first human being came from dirt” WTF? What drugs are you on?? Holy shit.

The reality? What you're talking about here is pure rubbish. Yes, it was customary for cultures of that sort of practice that. But that's only because they were animist and believed that animals are sacred. That's the perception.

Here's the reality. We eat to survive and everything else is moot from rituals and "sacrifices". Those are all nonsense to give it a nonexistent value. Once again, as people, we give something a purpose when it reality, they are simply there. Mystifying or increasing their importance is artificial and can only lead to deluded principles. Of course you wouldn't get it because you're quick to think animals are sacred creatures since REALITY tells you that value is subjective.

Your latter line makes NO SENSE.
As for your former line, explaining the reality to you is very frustrating. Once again, I have to. If we take an animal’s life to nourish our bodies, it must be respected and honored. Our forefathers (and people like me) understood that sacred act. Selfish people like you must understand that you cannot starve, rape, slaughter and beat, abuse, torture and maim animals at will because you think you are dominant. That is not God’s plan. Dominion means to protect and guard that which we oversee. You should be thankful and grateful that an animal sacrifices their life to feed you. You will pay a dear price for your arrogance, vile expectations, support and encouragement of torture to those shackled and locked in a life of misery, much like how your ancestors were.

Pure selfishness? You have zero room to talk period. The clothes on your back and what you consume in your stomach won't make you any different from the rest of the people. You're selfish yourself and yet you deny it. If you weren't, then you'd give up your lifestyle and live among the rest of the animals dwelling in the forest instead of having your head up your ass. Just because I'm not deluded like your doesn't make me selfish. It's called being practical. And you don't know me enough to make that judgment on what I do to preserve parts of the world.

I ignored your altruism comment because its lip service coming from you. The truth is, many haven’t partaken in it in modern day civilization in a long time. And we are all paying the price for the actions of people like you. Because you are a perfect example and representative of pure selfishness, so please do not detach yourself too to far from your analogies by saying that you are speaking collectively for the human race...you are also speaking of they type of selfish person that YOU are.

Retard was meant to be metaphorical, but since you said Nutria rats are beavers, then it's clear that you don't know what you're talking about asshole. Know how? Here...examine the classifications.

Coypu aka Nutria rat
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Rodentia
Parvorder: Caviomorpha
Family: Myocastoridae
Genus: Myocastor
Species: M. coypus

Beaver:
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Rodentia
Family: Castoridae
Genus: Castor

Clearly if you have studied your biology or animal kingdom, you'd know that they are NOT the same animal, nor of the same family. And actually, nutria rats are closer to mice since they share the same genus. There's a reason why they are classified differently, jackass. Now you've made yourself look even dumber than you are.

And you're also showing your colors that you're willing to give nutria rats a pass for the destruction of the marshlands and ecosystem which affects other animal life. Even if they weren't over here, they'd still cause a lot of problems and it's people like you that are too damn blind to see that.

Look who's talking out their ass now. Nutria rats. Really? So you call me a retard, and then use Nutria rats as your example. Nutria rats aka beavers BECAME a problem because human fur traders over bred them for cosmetic reasons, and as a result introduced them into THREE OTHER CONTINENTS. Shall I type that again for your simpleton ass? Humans are to blame. They are NOT indigenous to three continents, but thanks to man and their over-breeding them, there they go, destroying the land. Anything else from your numskull?

I'm not salty with the Casey thread. If that were the case, I'd still argue you there. Had you not paid attention that I didn't bother with your response of the silly cheap shots you've made of me because you're too overly passionate about something completely out of your control? Get over yourself. You're no one's savior.

And lastly, yes I have called you nut. However, I'm not alone in this. People don't have to outright say it, but reading your posts and how you carry on in these threads, it clearly shows that you're making a spectacle of yourself and coming off as a nut. And unlike you, I don't get offended easily if people find me creepy, insane or perverted. Everything else on your list especially the devil worshiping and stalkerish nonsense are too laughable. That's a sound of desperation from a weeping moron with a few screws loose.

I can hold my own very well thanks, I called out your ass trying to save face in the Casey thread and you're still salty…reversing my language on me won't work, kiddo. Second time you’ve tried it in this thread – be original, ok?

You branding me a nut on here is way more preferable than to what you’ve been branded as, which is a creepy, pervy, stalkerish, devil worshiping, insane cackling laugh, effeminate, weird voice message leaving turrets-style posting jackass, who doesn’t think his shit stinks.

 

[FG]

IMO - Regardless of possible anti-gay propaganda or not:

The problem here is not the sexual orientation of the dad, but simply lack of parenting skills. I don't think you running a risk of getting damaged by gay parents is higher than if you were raised by heterosexual parents.

I also think that its terrible that people think kids are better off stuck in the foster care system rather than being adopted by a gay couple.
Foster care is notorious and it can never be deemed as a better choice than to be raised by a family that loves you, gay or not.

That there are some bad parents in the gay community as there are in the heterosexual community - shouldn't be a surprise. Is that frequency higher in the gay community? - I seriously doubt it. What about girls being raised by a single dad or a boy being raised by a single mom??? Could not these children then run the risk of getting their gender "suppressed"?

Poor parenting skills period.

And no, I did not read y'alls discussion. I'm just blabbing about the video.

 

[Bliss]

Focus on the damn child!? I'm VERY focused on her. In fact, I'm so focused on her, I clearly see she's blaming homosexuality for the way she is and that my dear, is called a cop out. Ever took noticed of that asshole? She's making any excuse to hold her bigoted behavior. Yes, she's been harmed, but think that she's more likely to look at the FACT that poor parenting was the cause? Sounds like she didn't.

Glad to see you're NOW actually focused on the girl, even though your response is abhorrent. Look at you calling her experiences with her father "a cop out" and "an excuse", even though she specifically cited him harming her by insisting she be more freely sexual.

Again you little shit, read my damn post. Citing a person's sexual orientation as the root of her mental problems as opposed to poor parenting skills only serves as a damn cop out for her attitude towards homosexuality in general. Had it been a heterosexual household, I highly doubt they would focus on their lifestyle of sexual identity of the family, now would she? Absolutely not.

When her father's behavior directly correlates to his gay activities IE: she said he discussed bathhouse orgies with other men at the breakfast table -that my dear vlaka, is a direct related to his gay lifestyle. She's not blaming it, she's telling YOU shithead, this is what happened. But once again, gay parents are pious in your eyes.

Stop your nonsense. Heterosexual parents get called out ALL THE DAMN time for their sexual behavior and its affects on their children. Ask any CPS officer. But once again, gay parents are pious in your eyes.

You're still being immature accusing me of being gay? That's awfully sad. And secondly, the fault isn't the gay parents. It's the very society that ostracize those because they come from those kind of families and it's that conservative society that place a certain expectation or pressure for the kid to not feel accepted. They key here is called education and it takes a lot to help them cope with all that. But, all that flew over your damn head as usual.

And yet....you like to accuse others of being gay...not fun, is it.

Who's even arguing otherwise that it's conservative societal and pressures in families that exist when dealing with a gay kid? Um, surely not me since I'm the one who brought it up, remember?...so not a damn thing flew over my head, but it obviously did yours, lol!

The girl made that ridiculous assumption and didn't provide any details at all when it comes to that. The only assumption we have here is that because she's in a home with two dads, she THINKS that she can't find femininity in her identity when that's complete and utter bullshit. Tell that busted logic to children who grew up in single parent homes all their lives. Again, overly sexual behavior, regardless of sexual orientation are the cause of it more than simply the person's orientation.

Glad to see once again you're NOW actually focused on the girl, even though your response is still abhorrent. Look at you calling her experiences with her father "bullshit", even though she specifically cited him diminishing her femininity.

First off, I did NOT use Harry Reid as an example. Thanks for having the attention span of a gnat like you normally do. And secondly, if you really want proof, you may want to watch this video in which there was an experiment conducted. If this doesn't give you some insight, then you're a lost cause.

Oh come on, lmao! 34 of the college-aged men who were homophobic had genital stimuli while sitting in a dark room with their pants down watching men get their dick sucked by other men? And this is proof that they're really gay?? Fuck off, seriously. The straightest of persons reaction may NOT be because its a GAY act, but because they envision and have sexual memory of the feeling of what its like to get their dick sucked - period. These same men would probably bust a nut seeing two gay women perform...this shit proves NOTHING, and certainly doesn't prove the men are actually gay!

And you DID use Harry Reid. It's in the thread.

Yes and you believe that nonsense apparently, hence I had to remind you of that easily. How can you call that "interesting" when it's clearly bullshit? That's an accurate answer.

And secondly, Nemesis? Look at your Greek history.

Look at my Greek history? WTF is that supposed to mean?

So a man tells you he is no longer gay and you call him a bullshitter?? The man is married with children AFTER the fact. Respect the man, asshole. Just because you're a lost cause doesn't mean others are. You're such a pompous ass.

Since you never paid attention to the NY Gay Marriage law being enacted, look no further than Senator Mark J. Grisanti, Stephen M. Saland, Roy J. McDonald and James Alessi who actually voted on their conscience. And given that you probably are too hard-headed and not even bother clicking it, here is a quote from Senator Grisanti on his take on the matter. He voted against it before, but this time he did and he had this to say: “I apologize for those who feel offended,” Mr. Grisanti said, adding, “I cannot deny a person, a human being, a taxpayer, a worker, the people of my district and across this state, the State of New York, and those people who make this the great state that it is the same rights that I have with my wife.”

Fair enough, you quoted one Senator who changed his mind on moral grounds, going against his election promise. But as I stated, we will have to wait and see if it affect his re-election.
However, you should KNOW that Mark Grisandi has caught so much flack for his gay vote and what was deemed lying to his constituents, that he is now considering changing parties to become a Democrat. (writing on the (next election) wall?)

Saland, Alesi and McDonald DID not state their reasons for crossing, so you can not say for a certainty that it was a moral choice. I' be interested in their reasons.

Furthermore a Democrat (Kruger) who opposed the bill in '09 but also changed his mind..did it for this reason -

His change of heart, chronologically at least, came after he was accused last March of accepting $1 million in bribes in return for political favors. Along with that scandal came allegations.. that Kruger laundered at least some of that money through his reportedly unacknowledged gay lover with whom he shares a house with along with the identified lover’s mother. Sidestepping the possible outing, The New York Times merely said, “The gay nephew of the woman he lives with, Dorothy Turano, was so furious at Mr. Kruger for opposing same-sex marriage two years ago that he had cut off contact with both of them, devastating Ms. Turano.”

So did he vote with a conscious?...or his dick?

Contradictions..contradictions

Wow, you're coming off far too abrasive, it's blinding your bullshit rhetoric. Don't mistake me for you. After all, you have an uptight sexual lust after a dog, not me. I'd refuse to even go near those things, so it's only laughable that you're responding out of anger and your usual nuttiness.

People completely entrust me with their pets, and I have made income from it, fyi. I treat my pets and other peoples pet's with respect, affection, I feed and bathe them and provide a loving nurturing home for them.
You on the other hand, would rape them and then hang them from a tree. But you're the nice guy, eh?

And sure, I post images on here for shock value and many of the people here do find it amusing. Sorry you can't differentiate between fetish and shock value. You're the last person anyone were to trust their pets with because you're crazy enough to think they are human. Well, you are what you become and it's sad to see you jump on the nutty wagon on this magnitude.

Newsflash - many DO NOT find your shock pics amusing. People don't even WANT to click your stupid pathetic links anymore because it will be some perverted, degenerate shit that you find perfectly acceptable.

 

[Morning Star]

Correction. And I'll repeat myself over again with this...

Poor parenting skills is the main contributor. And apparently, she's focusing way too much on the dad's sexual orientation rather than the actions of overly sexual lifestyle.

Glad to see you're NOW actually focused on the girl, even though your response is abhorrent. Look at you calling her experiences with her father "a cop out" and "an excuse", even though she specifically cited him harming her by insisting she be more freely sexual.

Again, read my post above. I never even implied that gays are infallible and can do no wrong. She's expressing everything from a personal experience and yet that cemented her thoughts and generalizations about an entire community BASED on something she went through and THAT'S abhorrent. Why blame someone on sexual orientation when it's more to do with bad parenting period? This is the main issue I have.

When her father's behavior directly correlates to his gay activities IE: she said he discussed bathhouse orgies with other men at the breakfast table -that my dear vlaka, is a direct related to his gay lifestyle. She's not blaming it, she's telling YOU shithead, this is what happened. But once again, gay parents are pious in your eyes.

Of course they do and you know why? Bad parenting! And that's the key phrase. Once again, you're ignoring something I've been stressing for the past few posts. Good job ignoring them as you generally do.

Stop your nonsense. Heterosexual parents get called out ALL THE DAMN time for their sexual behavior and its affects on their children. Ask any CPS officer. But once again, gay parents are pious in your eyes.

I don't make accusations, but you're quick to ignore the reality of it all. Plus, if I was too quick, then I'd accuse you of being one as well, now would I? And furthermore children who commit suicide tend to face ignorant jackasses who ostracize them.

And yet....you like to accuse others of being gay...not fun, is it.

Who's even arguing otherwise that it's conservative societal and pressures in families that exist when dealing with a gay kid? Um, surely not me since I'm the one who brought it up, remember?...so not a damn thing flew over my head, but it obviously did yours, lol!

She never provided any proper examples showing how her femininity has been diminished. Had that been the case, then she probably would have thought she's a dude with a shrunken clitoris.

Glad to see once again you're NOW actually focused on the girl, even though your response is still abhorrent. Look at you calling her experiences with her father "bullshit", even though she specifically cited him diminishing her femininity.

Once again, you don't pay attention to the whole video. You selectively listen to certain parts of the video and not paid close attention to what they did. It's not what they SAY, it's the response from the penile stimuli device attached to their penises when they observed the video. You can't hide physical bodily responses like that unless they were faking it, which they weren't. Are you THAT incapable of understanding how experimenting works?

It does prove that they DO have homosexual tendencies and even go as far as making a part of their sexual identity because of their personal revulsion towards it. How blind are you?

Oh come on, lmao! 34 of the college-aged men who were homophobic had genital stimuli while sitting in a dark room with their pants down watching men get their dick sucked by other men? And this is proof that they're really gay?? Fuck off, seriously. The straightest of persons reaction may NOT be because its a GAY act, but because they envision and have sexual memory of the feeling of what its like to get their dick sucked - period. These same men would probably bust a nut seeing two gay women perform...this shit proves NOTHING, and certainly doesn't prove the men are actually gay!

I've used Larry Craig and David Dreier specifically. Show me where I even brought up Harry Reid at all especially since he's not conservative, nor he's a Republican.

And you DID use Harry Reid. It's in the thread.

Nemesis is the Greek goddess of vengeance. I guess I would have used Greek Mythology instead to help you put two and two together. Hence the nickname.

Look at my Greek history? WTF is that supposed to mean?

Of course he's a bullshitter. You can't change your sexual orientation. What he went through simply suppressed his sexual attractions towards men and mask with something completely false and conjured by broken beliefs and nonsense.

So a man tells you he is no longer gay and you call him a bullshitter?? The man is married with children AFTER the fact. Respect the man, asshole. Just because you're a lost cause doesn't mean others are. You're such a pompous ass.

Of course he suffered a bunch in his conservative district, but considering a political party switch? That's unlikely especially when he was asked that on NPR and his response was (paraphrasing), "No. I'll always be a Republican." This was immediately after the vote. Maybe that's the case now if you follow on his Twitter and he stated that. But that's unlikely either way.

The other three may have not gone on record on their personal reasons why they've voted, but you can probably find them on a random YouTube video. Chances are, given that they ALL are conservative, they all took the Ted Olson route and expressed them in that respect.

Fair enough, you quoted one Senator who changed his mind on moral grounds, going against his election promise. But as I stated, we will have to wait and see if it affect his re-election.
However, you should KNOW that Mark Grisandi has caught so much flack for his gay vote and what was deemed lying to his constituents, that he is now considering changing parties to become a Democrat. (writing on the (next election) wall?)

Saland, Alesi and McDonald DID not state their reasons for crossing, so you can not say for a certainty that it was a moral choice. I' be interested in their reasons.

Furthermore a Democrat (Kruger) who opposed the bill in '09 but also changed his mind..did it for this reason -

Sounds like he went with his heart instead because he masked his sexual identity for so long. Again, this does go back to my original point about certain individuals. Now, that won't translate to ALL politicians and figures. Ted Haggard was outed and yet still is against gay marriage.

His change of heart, chronologically at least, came after he was accused last March of accepting $1 million in bribes in return for political favors. Along with that scandal came allegations.. that Kruger laundered at least some of that money through his reportedly unacknowledged gay lover with whom he shares a house with along with the identified lover’s mother. Sidestepping the possible outing, The New York Times merely said, “The gay nephew of the woman he lives with, Dorothy Turano, was so furious at Mr. Kruger for opposing same-sex marriage two years ago that he had cut off contact with both of them, devastating Ms. Turano.”

So did he vote with a conscious?...or his dick?

Contradictions..contradictions

Of course I'm a nice guy. I don't need to be a pet lover to be a nice person. If that's your bit of logic, then I feel sorry for you. And if you really take me THAT seriously that I'd actually go out and kill an animal for amusement, then you're pathetic. However, if I'm attacked, then I have the right to defend myself and kill. And I don't need a gun to do that.

People completely entrust me with their pets, and I have made income from it, fyi. I treat my pets and other peoples pet's with respect, affection, I feed and bathe them and provide a loving nurturing home for them.
You on the other hand, would rape them and then hang them from a tree. But you're the nice guy, eh?

And you are the kind that probably clicked them out of disgust and fascination which is the whole point. My entire character isn't centered on shocking people either, but it's fun for my own amusement, Anne.

Newsflash - many DO NOT find your shock pics amusing. People don't even WANT to click your stupid pathetic links anymore because it will be some perverted, degenerate shit that you find perfectly acceptable.

 

[Mandingo Warrior]

Dent in my ego? Lmao. The TRUTH IS, you’re the type of animal hater who is the FIRST TO FUCK THEM. We see your type all the time who abuse animals. I on the other hand, have empathy for animals and try to protect them from perverts like you. You’re the one who throws up sexually deviant and bestial pictures that you find exciting, and as a result your fetishes are looked upon as disgusting, particularly since you look for any excuse to flash these images to the women on here because that’s how you get off. Not to mention showing images of other men’s black cocks that you acquired from your personal stack from monster cocks in my ass.com with your gold membership status.

LOL! Yeah, Big Brothers the guy thats gonna be waitin outside some girls house with the ski mask on in the bushes LOLZZZZ He's that guy alright LOL

 

[wtarshi]

LOL! Yeah, Big Brothers the guy thats gonna be waitin outside some girls house with the ski mask on in the bushes LOLZZZZ He's that guy alright LOL

And you're that (cough) militant black guy

 

[Bliss]

I never stated we're the only species with a brain, jackass, NOR did I state that we've lived longer than other species of animal. The modern human or homosexual sapien existed for 200,000+ years hence why I've stated that we've survived for a long time. Pay attention. It'll make you look less of a fool.

You said:
When I asked you "Your fellow animal is denied life in a brutal way because YOU say you're at the top. Arrogant much?", you said to "explain" why... "No jackass, we have this thing called a brain. Thank you for demonstrating your lack of intelligence here. We use the brain to THINK, CREATE, and means to SURVIVE....See, the brain allows us to operate and think and that kept us alive for a long time."
Thanks for stating the obvious. I mean, I say it again, it's not as if animals don't have one, nor have lived long lives, too. Your point for even saying that..was?

Again, misconstruing my comments like an autistic kid with Asperger's won't get you anywhere. Looking back at the comment, I didn't see anything relating to you bringing up African ancestors, animals and their sacrifices. I smell you talking out your ass again. Plus, in case you've forgotten, those very Africans actually did hunt, kill, and eat animals as well so they can survive? Did you forget that or you thought they all survived on nuts and fruit? You're really a dumbass.

Here ya go, my quote:
.."explain to me how we have evolved into better beings than our original forefathers who essentially respected the land and their fellow animals..."...If we take an animal’s life to nourish our bodies, it must be respected and honored. Our forefathers (and people like me) understood that sacred act...."

And secondly, since you didn't bother reading my post correctly, here's what I've implied: "We're a product of evolution and not a product of a supreme being creating people from dirt." Your attention span was lost in the conversation on this one.

What the fuck, now its "what you implied'? When no one even talked about people evolving from dirt - except you. You're an absolute LOON!

The reality? What you're talking about here is pure rubbish. Yes, it was customary for cultures of that sort of practice that. But that's only because they were animist and believed that animals are sacred. That's the perception.

And your perverted ass knows better, huh? They are sacred, for they sacrifice their life to feed us, u arrogant SNOT! Our ancestors had it right ALL along.

Here's the reality. We eat to survive and everything else is moot from rituals and "sacrifices". Those are all nonsense to give it a nonexistent value.

We eat to survive on healthy food. Do you really think that abusing animals, feeding them GMO corn!!! instead of grass, injecting them with chemicals that make them sick and having them live amid death, slaughter, blood and such is more conducive to healthy ingestion for human, as opposed to a quicker death after living on the grasslands? You're an idiot, BBW, pure unadulterated idiot.

Once again, as people, we give something a purpose when it reality, they are simply there. Mystifying or increasing their importance is artificial and can only lead to deluded principles. Of course you wouldn't get it because you're quick to think animals are sacred creatures since REALITY tells you that value is subjective.

Funny how every other living animal is "just there" but not the "human animal" according to you. Yet, we know the human animal is also seen as "just there", slaughtered and their value subjective in certain cultures, no? ie Nazis, American slavery, Haitian slavery, Modern day African slavery the jangiweed, etc...hey fuckhead, feeling stupid much?

Pure selfishness? You have zero room to talk period. The clothes on your back and what you consume in your stomach won't make you any different from the rest of the people. You're selfish yourself and yet you deny it. If you weren't, then you'd give up your lifestyle and live among the rest of the animals dwelling in the forest instead of having your head up your ass. Just because I'm not deluded like your doesn't make me selfish. It's called being practical. And you don't know me enough to make that judgment on what I do to preserve parts of the world.

You're full of shit. Pure, stink shit. Funniest ish Ive read from you so far!

Retard was meant to be metaphorical, but since you said Nutria rats are beavers, then it's clear that you don't know what you're talking about asshole. Know how? Here...examine the classifications.

Coypu aka Nutria rat
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Rodentia
Parvorder: Caviomorpha
Family: Myocastoridae
Genus: Myocastor
Species: M. coypus

Beaver:
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Rodentia
Family: Castoridae
Genus: Castor

Clearly if you have studied your biology or animal kingdom, you'd know that they are NOT the same animal, nor of the same family. And actually, nutria rats are closer to mice since they share the same genus. There's a reason why they are classified differently, jackass. Now you've made yourself look even dumber than you are.

Hmm, let's see...Beaver-rat, Little Beaver, Otter...all other names for Nutria Rats. You're too fucking easy to play with! You DUMBASS!

Nutria rat.

And you're also showing your colors that you're willing to give nutria rats a pass for the destruction of the marshlands and ecosystem which affects other animal life. Even if they weren't over here, they'd still cause a lot of problems and it's people like you that are too damn blind to see that.

A pass? So we should blame the rats for their eco-destruction because greedy humans over-bred them for fur and introduced them to parts of the world where they never existed?? What the fuck are you smoking, dude??

I'm not salty with the Casey thread. If that were the case, I'd still argue you there. Had you not paid attention that I didn't bother with your response of the silly cheap shots you've made of me because you're too overly passionate about something completely out of your control? Get over yourself. You're no one's savior.

Savior? WTF are you talking about? *blink*.
Yes you ARE salty because your ass was owned there, you had NOTHING you could say back. Through the whole thing, you acted like you didn't care about the CA story, but your ass was all over that thread following it and making videos for us to view you talking about it. (in addition to trying to be "shocking" by announcing to us that you wanted to fuck a baby killer sooo bad. Pulease).

And lastly, yes I have called you nut. However, I'm not alone in this. People don't have to outright say it, but reading your posts and how you carry on in these threads, it clearly shows that you're making a spectacle of yourself and coming off as a nut. And unlike you, I don't get offended easily if people find me creepy, insane or perverted. Everything else on your list especially the devil worshiping and stalkerish nonsense are too laughable. That's a sound of desperation from a weeping moron with a few screws loose.

Do you honestly think that I would give any merit to you calling me a nut..when you are in fact, one? Making a spectacle?, honey you're right by my side making an even bigger spectacle. You can't even get your rats right.

See, you think you can insult me at will, and I won't respond. Well scroll back up and see how that turned out. You're the one with a screw loose. Your maniacal laugh, your desperate attempts to stalk women here...your desperado persona is just...putrid.

 

[Bliss]

Correction. And I'll repeat myself over again with this...

Poor parenting skills is the main contributor. And apparently, she's focusing way too much on the dad's sexual orientation rather than the actions of overly sexual lifestyle.

Because that's all she knows! Christ, shes focused on his gay lifestyle because that's all she ever saw..don't you get that??!


Again, read my post above. I never even implied that gays are infallible and can do no wrong. She's expressing everything from a personal experience and yet that cemented her thoughts and generalizations about an entire community BASED on something she went through and THAT'S abhorrent. Why blame someone on sexual orientation when it's more to do with bad parenting period? This is the main issue I have.

She's entitled to experiences, and if shew felt her environment wasn't conducive to a proper upbringing, then so be it. If it was a single parent household child who expressed anger at an absent father, who are we to tell them they cant feel mistrust for other households that have a missing father.

Of course they do and you know why? Bad parenting! And that's the key phrase. Once again, you're ignoring something I've been stressing for the past few posts. Good job ignoring them as you generally do.

I haven't ignored that its bad parenting at all- however its been pointed out to you repeatedly WHY he was a bad parent, but YOU keep ignoring that. And that directly related to his gay activities. Why cant you just admit that. She's even told you.

She never provided any proper examples showing how her femininity has been diminished. Had that been the case, then she probably would have thought she's a dude with a shrunken clitoris.

Aww, look at the man who cried gay sad, now attacking the girl in the video. You're a hypocrite, et all.

Once again, you don't pay attention to the whole video. You selectively listen to certain parts of the video and not paid close attention to what they did. It's not what they SAY, it's the response from the penile stimuli device attached to their penises when they observed the video. You can't hide physical bodily responses like that unless they were faking it, which they weren't. Are you THAT incapable of understanding how experimenting works?
It does prove that they DO have homosexual tendencies and even go as far as making a part of their sexual identity because of their personal revulsion towards it. How blind are you?

WTF? Reading is fundamental! I said EXACTLY what you just said. I never said anything about what they "spoke". I noted their stimulus penis reaction. Fuck you're an utter dumb-ass. I'm so done with you after this!

And NO, it does NOT make them homosexual...A man can get an erection while at a doctors office...does that make him hot for his doctor?

A mother can get sexually aroused when her child suckles her nipple...it does not means she's a pedophile! Do you understand, knucklehead?

I've used Larry Craig and David Dreier specifically. Show me where I even brought up Harry Reid at all especially since he's not conservative, nor he's a Republican.

Correction, I meant Larry Craig, not Harry Reid.


Nemesis is the Greek goddess of vengeance. I guess I would have used Greek Mythology instead to help you put two and two together. Hence the nickname.

I don't need you to put shit together....I know what nemesis is, and the mythological origins behind it. But it has nothing to do with what we are discussing.

Of course he's a bullshitter. You can't change your sexual orientation. What he went through simply suppressed his sexual attractions towards men and mask with something completely false and conjured by broken beliefs and nonsense.

Of course you can change your orientation. Get the fuck out of here. He said that he was forced into homosexuality at a young age to begin with, so he became one, all the while living as a gay man, he didn't feel it was right. He decided his love for God was much more powerful than anything he felt towards men. Read the damn book or watch his interview. As I said, he was interesting to listen to.

Of course he suffered a bunch in his conservative district, but considering a political party switch? That's unlikely especially when he was asked that on NPR and his response was (paraphrasing), "No. I'll always be a Republican." This was immediately after the vote. Maybe that's the case now if you follow on his Twitter and he stated that. But that's unlikely either way.

The other three may have not gone on record on their personal reasons why they've voted, but you can probably find them on a random YouTube video. Chances are, given that they ALL are conservative, they all took the Ted Olson route and expressed them in that respect.

Well he did state it and its all happened since he flipped his vote.

Sounds like he went with his heart instead because he masked his sexual identity for so long. Again, this does go back to my original point about certain individuals. Now, that won't translate to ALL politicians and figures. Ted Haggard was outed and yet still is against gay marriage.

We don't know that Kruger masked or hid his sexuality. He may have been out when he voted against the gay marriage bill in 2009. His lover's identity was merely unidentified, no mention of Kruger's sexual orientation. Which bodes to my original statement earlier that gay politicians vote heterosexual in bills, also.

Of course I'm a nice guy. I don't need to be a pet lover to be a nice person. If that's your bit of logic, then I feel sorry for you. And if you really take me THAT seriously that I'd actually go out and kill an animal for amusement, then you're pathetic. However, if I'm attacked, then I have the right to defend myself and kill. And I don't need a gun to do that.

Spare me the lies. You'd kill a defenseless animal in a heartbeat. I pray no puppy ever approaches you to be petted, or a cat rubs her whiskas on your legs for affection. They would be found dead on train tracks hours later.

And you are the kind that probably clicked them out of disgust and fascination which is the whole point. My entire character isn't centered on shocking people either, but it's fun for my own amusement, Anne.

Dude, I clicked on them like all the others here, because we didn't know how sick you were...No-one hardly clicks your stupid porn links anymore, nor your weirdo recorded message ones. I think I stopped listening to your crazy talk links a while ago.


Anyway, I'm off to bed - if you respond, Ill deal with your funky ass another day. Im having a backyard tree cut down in the morning, and I'll make sure to dedicate the chainsaw on the branches to your penis.

 

[Bliss]

Correction. And I'll repeat myself over again with this...

Poor parenting skills is the main contributor. And apparently, she's focusing way too much on the dad's sexual orientation rather than the actions of overly sexual lifestyle.

Because that's all she knows! Christ, shes focused on his gay lifestyle because that's all she ever saw..don't you get that??!


Again, read my post above. I never even implied that gays are infallible and can do no wrong. She's expressing everything from a personal experience and yet that cemented her thoughts and generalizations about an entire community BASED on something she went through and THAT'S abhorrent. Why blame someone on sexual orientation when it's more to do with bad parenting period? This is the main issue I have.

She's entitled to experiences, and if shew felt her environment wasn't conducive to a proper upbringing, then so be it. If it was a single parent household child who expressed anger at an absent father, who are we to tell them they cant feel mistrust for other households that have a missing father.

Of course they do and you know why? Bad parenting! And that's the key phrase. Once again, you're ignoring something I've been stressing for the past few posts. Good job ignoring them as you generally do.

I haven't ignored that its bad parenting at all- however its been pointed out to you repeatedly WHY he was a bad parent, but YOU keep ignoring that. And that directly related to his gay activities. Why cant you just admit that. She's even told you.

She never provided any proper examples showing how her femininity has been diminished. Had that been the case, then she probably would have thought she's a dude with a shrunken clitoris.

Aww, look at the man who cried gay sad, now attacking the girl in the video. You're a hypocrite, et all.

Once again, you don't pay attention to the whole video. You selectively listen to certain parts of the video and not paid close attention to what they did. It's not what they SAY, it's the response from the penile stimuli device attached to their penises when they observed the video. You can't hide physical bodily responses like that unless they were faking it, which they weren't. Are you THAT incapable of understanding how experimenting works?
It does prove that they DO have homosexual tendencies and even go as far as making a part of their sexual identity because of their personal revulsion towards it. How blind are you?

WTF? Reading is fundamental! I said EXACTLY what you just said. I never said anything about what they "spoke". I noted their stimulus penis reaction. Fuck you're an utter dumb-ass. I'm so done with you after this!

And NO, it does NOT make them homosexual...A man can get an erection while at a doctors office...does that make him hot for his doctor?

A mother can get sexually aroused when her child suckles her nipple...it does not means she's a pedophile! Do you understand, knucklehead?

I've used Larry Craig and David Dreier specifically. Show me where I even brought up Harry Reid at all especially since he's not conservative, nor he's a Republican.

Correction, I meant Larry Craig, not Harry Reid.

Nemesis is the Greek goddess of vengeance. I guess I would have used Greek Mythology instead to help you put two and two together. Hence the nickname.

I don't need you to put shit together....I know what nemesis is, and the mythological origins behind it. But it has nothing to do with what we are discussing.

Of course he's a bullshitter. You can't change your sexual orientation. What he went through simply suppressed his sexual attractions towards men and mask with something completely false and conjured by broken beliefs and nonsense.

Of course you can change your orientation. Get the fuck out of here. He said that he was forced into homosexuality at a young age to begin with, so he became one, all the while living as a gay man, he didn't feel it was right. He decided his love for God was much more powerful than anything he felt towards men. Read the damn book or watch his interview. As I said, he was interesting to listen to.

Of course he suffered a bunch in his conservative district, but considering a political party switch? That's unlikely especially when he was asked that on NPR and his response was (paraphrasing), "No. I'll always be a Republican." This was immediately after the vote. Maybe that's the case now if you follow on his Twitter and he stated that. But that's unlikely either way.

The other three may have not gone on record on their personal reasons why they've voted, but you can probably find them on a random YouTube video. Chances are, given that they ALL are conservative, they all took the Ted Olson route and expressed them in that respect.

Well he did state it and its all happened since he flipped his vote.

Sounds like he went with his heart instead because he masked his sexual identity for so long. Again, this does go back to my original point about certain individuals. Now, that won't translate to ALL politicians and figures. Ted Haggard was outed and yet still is against gay marriage.

We don't know that Kruger masked or hid his sexuality. He may have been out when he voted against the gay marriage bill in 2009. His lover's identity was merely unidentified, no mention of Kruger's sexual orientation. Which bodes to my original statement earlier that gay politicians vote heterosexual in bills, also.

Of course I'm a nice guy. I don't need to be a pet lover to be a nice person. If that's your bit of logic, then I feel sorry for you. And if you really take me THAT seriously that I'd actually go out and kill an animal for amusement, then you're pathetic. However, if I'm attacked, then I have the right to defend myself and kill. And I don't need a gun to do that.

Spare me the lies. You'd kill a defenseless animal in a heartbeat. I pray no puppy ever approaches you to be petted, or a cat rubs her whiskas on your legs for affection. They would be found dead on train tracks hours later.

And you are the kind that probably clicked them out of disgust and fascination which is the whole point. My entire character isn't centered on shocking people either, but it's fun for my own amusement, Anne.

Dude, I clicked on them like all the others here, because we didn't know how sick you were...No-one hardly clicks your stupid porn links anymore, nor your weirdo recorded message ones. I think I stopped listening to your crazy talk links a while ago.


Anyway, I'm off to bed - if you respond, Ill deal with your funky ass another day. I'm having a backyard tree cut down in the morning...I'll be sure to dedicate the chainsaw action on the branches to your penis.

 

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Well read it and weep people. And people wanna act like its ONLY the gays who are hurting and need assistance. Give me an F'ing break!

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