Why would women bring it up they set the terms. Like I said theres a lot of truth to it especiay when forum favorites who you peoople swoon over agree as well.
I learn to live with very little but i am not going to lie sometimes it is not easy and many times you think what if we had more but then again the more you have the more you end up spend
But a lot of the women on here(and no offense) are older. A lot of the women on here over 40 and already well established. Ain't nothing wrong with that but I'm talking about the up and coming chicks that are in their 20s and want a provider.
It's definitely not something that can be automatically assumed. If you don't know someone or their situation, you can't assume shit. I've been laid off before, and it had nothing to do with laziness or incompetence, even though there were folks who didn't see it that way. Sometimes shit just happens, especially in our lousy economy, but a lot of people don't take the time to put themselves in other people's shoes to understand where they're coming from. They'd be quick to change their tune if the shit happened to them though.
I had a hypothesis that relationships would be harder to create while there's a poor economy. Seems like I might have been right.
I'm in my early 20's! lol. I agree with basically everything Ches said. Stability and security's different than being wealthy and if a man is considered a provider, it doesn't necessarily mean he's wealthy. Using my parents as an example, their home is still basically run on a 1 person income... my father's. My mother works part time, the money basically goes to her car, so she has something to drive. As a carpenter, my father is by no means wealthy... but he's always been a provider and made sure the family had what we needed. (Lately though, I think he started selling drugs, but that's a story for another time ) As of right now, I don't care how much someone makes as long as he supports himself and meets his own needs, because I make sure to have money to meet my own needs as well. I joke that I need a sugar daddy, when it comes to chatting about trips with friends, and how they all want to go on cruises and stuff like that... but it is only joking (unless anyone's looking for a sugar baby :smt081) When it comes to considering stuff like marriage... it would be nice if he made enough that I could be a stay at home mom for awhile before going back to work, but it isn't necessary. Times have changed, social norms just haven't caught up yet.
Just because we're older, doesn't always mean we're established and don't want or need security & stability. Ask those of us who were single mothers if we all feel established. Or secure. I think what most of us want is someone who can help carry the load. And the younger ones may want a man with an income that will allow her to stay home with young children full or part time if that is important to her. You act like all women just want money to live a life of luxury rather than looking at the emotional comfort a solid income provides not just for the woman, but the family as a whole.
Why should the man be the provider??? Its the year 2012 folks. My current girl takes good care of me and doesn't expect me to provide for her at all. I wish more females were like her lol. Oh and I do have a job but she makes waaay more money than I do
Who said anything about being a provider? I said I wanted someone who was on equal footing, which means, they can pay for their own wants and needs. I don't want them paying for anything. I don't even like going on dates when the guy insists on paying because it makes me uncomfortable. If you're not employed and have no income coming in, then how can you be on equal footing? I'm not talking about people who have no official job and manage to have income, like our friend dWeb up there. I think most of us ladies have been in positions where we've taken care of a man who was broke and unemployed, and we have no interest in doing it again. It's not because we want him to buy us expensive shoes and jewelry- please. It's 2012. If I want a necklace from Tiffany & Co, or want a bag from Coach, I will buy it my damn self. lol I will agree that it does depend on the situation and how well you know someone. Considering the current economy, many people are out of work, or they're working part-time, or just doing anything to get some money. I can respect that. Some even moved home with parents because of the economy. I can respect that to - up to a point (another conversation for another time). I mean, one of my exes lost his job 8 months into the relationship...did I leave him? Hell no. We job hunted together until he found something else. It took him four or five months, but we were in it together, and talking about getting married in the future at that point. So, it's not in stone.
Bullshit. It shows the shit that seems to matter to men is fleeting, and women care about what really matters. So, it shows that women are the more intelligent, pragmatic, sensible ones. Who'd have thought, right?
you ladies are so full of shit its not even funny lol The survey clearly shows that men are less shallow and can handle their own problems. Its the year 2012 and women want it both ways. I'm not trying to be a sexist ahole but women are so full of shit imo. And Huntress, you wouldnt date Taye Diggs if he was unemployed???? lol
As usual he's purposely trying to start shit for no reason. It's another one of his bait threads. Although some of us have tried to turn it into an actual conversation on the topic itself, the reality is it was a waste of time for any of us to even try.
Well, then I suggest you go back and reread my post about it. Kthxbye. Oh, I know, Tam. Sad, really, because it's really worth discussing.
My ex-gf was a server at an outdoor pool in South Florida. There was a girl who worked with her who was 6 months pregnant and still working.... in the South Florida heat... all day.... walking around. Her good for nothing boyfriend just stayed home. I don't care if you're a feminist or maninist, there was absolutely nothing ok with this scenario. I realize in this day and age it's sinful to advocate a scenario where the man goes into the office and the woman stays home and blahsy blahsy blah, blah blah blah. Fact is, this poll doesn't show how shallow men or women are. What this poll shows is that a part of a womans attraction to a man is based on his ability to provide while a mans attraction to a woman is not necessarily so. This does NOT mean that a woman shouldn't work, shouldn't make the same amount of money as a man... nor does it mean it's shameful for a man to make less money than his girl. Simply put, regardless the day and age we live in and how much effort is being put into effeminizing men, gender differences still extend beyond sexual organs.
Max is cooking me dinner tonight: salmon with brown sugar and all the while, he'll just be wearing an apron and a dazzling smile. :mrgreen:
