Then I guess we're on the same page: 1. Phil has a right to play himself however he wants 2. smart people have a right to use their freedom of speech to shut him down 3. we all abhor his sentiments, of course We're just on different pages as to who we hope wins. Just don't forget what a "win" means to Phil
what exactly does he win? and where did you get the idea that there is any win in this situation...the picture you posted is a bit extreme...when the hell did Phil get or have the power to make anything happen other than having a duck fall from the sky
Some neg rep: :mrgreen: someone is very confused. I hope phil gets shut down. My comments about "christian" were to try to get at the real reasons you folks are opposing people's "free speech" rights to let advertisers know to back away from the bully After all, we're on the same page about these 3 things right? 1. Phil has a right to play himself however he wants 2. smart people have a right to use their freedom of speech to shut him down 3. we all abhor his sentiments, of course Yes? No? Maybe? So what are your real motives? haha Be true to yourselves! :mrgreen: real "christians" (that is, those who give a shit about christian values) would be anti-Phil the hateful gun nut real free speechers would know it goes both ways thank goodness (and prolly wouldn't neg rep me for my take on the subject :mrgreen However if you're simply caught up, you'll back the "christian" gun nut who's down with jim crow, and dismiss people who care about human rights as "politically correct", then -ironically- get emotional when people voice another take on the matter. That's all mixed up and ass-backwards
Ding ding ding. It's honestly comical the things that some people choose to neg rep over. Instead of partaking in the conversation and actually communicating like an adult, they neg rep and say in private what they don't have the balls to say in public? Interesting
Here's how I look at it: The only reason that they benched him because they are afraid that it will hurt their bottom line. They didn't do it because of morality or because they felt bad(hell maybe they did). I just think purely business. It's the network's right. The First Amendment only protects citizens from government persecution. Even though I disagree with just about everything that he said, I don't think they should have suspended him. I don't think it's necessary. A&E could just have released a statement saying that Phil Robertson's views and beliefs doesn't reflect the network's. Here's what I'm asking though. Didn't the network know what they were getting into? I mean he's a southern white Christian conservative man in his 60's who hunts for a living. They had to know what this guy was all about before they went into business with him. The show is based around him and his family being themselves. They didn't have a problem with it before. Now they want to cry foul? The ironic thing about this is that I'm an atheist, so in his eyes I'm going to burn in hell for eternity. Yet, I'm still defending this guy. Go figure. lol!
That entirely my view. It is always about the bottom line. Of course A&E don't care about some moral stand. And the rest is also pretty much what I tried to say. Minus the atheist part.
Btw, these doods will probably find another network with the support they have from their .. Uhm.. 'Similar thinking' back water followers. I doubt they will suffer.
Yours is cleaner and has satin sheets As for duck dynasty...if dog the racist bounty hunter can get back on the air, that guy can
i can understand and agree with you. if i were worth millions i wouldn't give a flying fuck what anyone says about my opinion. agreed fully however considering his sponsors aren't dropping him over what he said, its obviously not bad for business. honestly, im not a fan of backwoods wm, ww... love em to death. hahahaha i never said i liked that guy but i can understand how my arguments would show different. my only argument is that we have freedom of speech no matter what our beliefs and yes certain things we say would cause backlash against us. as a person, no matter what your beliefs is, i think its ludacris for a person to loose sponsors which means lose money just because you believe something. thank you!
Right now, I'm sporting flannel sheets, its freaking cold here! 55! Lol. Can you accept the sheets? I bet, the duckies will be fine.
ha ha -- more neg rep... :mrgreen: Why not say what you have to say in the forum guys? Afraid to look bad? Bottom line: if you had a solid argument you wouldn't get all emotional btw, I read that this show is the number one on A&E? I can't believe people actually watch this shit cancel that motherfucker! :mrgreen: :butthead:
How sad is that though? If you don't have the courage to stand behind your beliefs in an anonymous online forum, how does one stand their ground irl? :smt102 I hear what you're saying, I guess I just have no patience for people who speak loudly in the shadows, but stand silent in front of others. If you're not strong enough to fight for your beliefs, then how strongly do you really believe in them?