:smt005 you killing me today ches. I will kick your but in tennis, call not a date if you want, but if I ain't feeling you like that we still can be cool.
To me, a man showing me he's interested has nothing to do with dinner (which is what this thread started out as), so for me that aspect of the date doesn't matter. I'd skip dinner all together if it was up to me...I'd much rather get to know a man while doing something out and about (beach, mountain hike, a long walk...anything active), than sitting at a table in a restaurant. If a man is truly interested in me, he'll know how to get that point across to me because he's attentive in our conversations. So again, just for me, it doesn't matter where we eat or if we eat, it's more about the conversation anyways. I hear people's point here, I just see things a little different, that's all
This has been my experience with women. I learned awhile ago the more thought and the less effort I put in the more enjoyable it is for everyone
To me, more thought = more effort, not less. It's easy to fork out money for dinner...it takes much more effort to plan something that falls in line with what your mutual interests might be.
My first date with my ex Girlfriend was at Mimi's cafe. I was going to go to the nicest steak house in town but then I was like mimi's cafe is good and we went there and had a great time as we both ordered the same dish.
moderate price points are fine but i am not going to a fast food place that has a damn drive through...we can do 2 for 20 at applebees anytime but not on the first date...if there is any chance that a kid at the next table is sticking fries up his nose then i am not interested... it doesn't have to be really expensive...PF Changs is always fun...Macaroni Grill...sushi is great! an authentic hole in the wall pizza place that got great reviews...a neighborhood bistro with just a couple of little intimate tables don't get wrong i love ruth chris, mortons and white chocolate grill but that is a little pricey... i want a place where we can sit close...pretend there is no one else in the place ...chat and enjoy some food...i promise i am not ordering a big fat steak because if i want to make out like teenagers later i certainly don't want to do it on an overfull stomach one thing i will say is that if a man treats me right i will treat him right...i don't skimp on cooking at home for my man...i shop for all his favorites...i probably spend more at the grocery stocking up for a man then he spends on dinner go ahead and be haters:mrgreen:
So C33, Lippy and Gemini (did I forget anyone?) must have you just doubled over in hysterics because they all agreed with me, and in L & G's case, they went a step beyond. All I'm saying is if dinner is the agreed-upon first date, have some class and pass up the drive-through. And yes, you would kick my butt and every other body part in tennis because I can't play tennis to save my life. I can't even play ping pong, for crying out loud! (My talents lie elsewhere...)
Ok, I was told by a young man this morning that my choice of a chain restaurant as a first date was snobby. That it's nothing more than a McDonald's with servers. I disagree with that for several reasons. At a sit-down restaurant like Applebee's or TX Roadhouse, you have a server who brings your food to the table on plates, to be eaten with silverware and serves you drinks (often alcoholic), as opposed to unwrapping your food, eating it with your fingers and drinking out of plastic cups. The quality of the food was brought into question - I happen to think a steak from TX Roadhouse or pasta from Applebee's or Olive Garden beats a Big Mac any day. My point is that anybody can shake the couch cushions and find enough change to take someone to McDonald's, where all you have to do is mosey up to the counter and give your order to some bored teenager. (Or not even get out of the car at all, if you really want to impress her). But I don't need my date to go to the other end of the spectrum and spend 1/4 of his paycheck on me for a first date. Somewhere in the middle tells me he cares enough to take me someplace for a nice meal, a drink and hiopefully good conversation. Btw, I asked another young man (one year younger than the above individual) if McDonald's was an acceptable option for a first date. He said "No!" I said "Why not?" He said "Because it's cheap!" There you have it.
It has nothing to do with it being cheap. It's about people clowning McDonald's, pizza is just as cheap but wouldn't get the same ridicule
he didn't take me there, we met there, it was my call, my decision, like I said it was our first meeting and it had to be somewhere well populated and all that other stuff. He still laughs about us meeting there, but yeah, it makes no odds whatsoever where it was. He came to meet me, and we were just sitting there talking and getting to know each other, the surroundings meant nothing whatsoever, they weren't even noticed. We certainly didn't eat there lol, we got a drink each and just sat and talked.
Look my only problem was with this comment. Fella's if your woman carries this shitty self entitled attitude, do yourself a favor and chuck her in the bushes. She's utterly worthless and values money more than your company. Yeah your going to try to downplay it and yada yada yada but your basically saying spend money on me to show me you care. What made your comment snobbish is that you use the word "class" to distinguish the shitty casual chain restaurants you like better than McDonald's when they are virtually McDonald's with servers. Cheap decor, average at best service, teenagers taking your order, kids falling all over the damn place, shitty ass tasteless food that's tastes no better than the prepackaged food you buy out of the freezer section of an grocery store. Funny you call McDonald's cheap but when on a date you expect a man full and well to pay for your meal to show that he "cares", what does that say about your cheap ass? BTW I don't like McDonald's.
]Looking back over the thread, at least I'm in good company as at least 3 other women agreed with me. Hit a nerve, did I? As I said before, we ALL spend our money on what is important. I've spent more than meals at McDonald's cost every time I make dinner for a man, which is quite often when I'm dating someone. So please be careful who you're calling a cheap ass. I'm not cheap when I treat a man - why should I stand for it when he treats me???
