"she's not hip hop" says hip hop star

goodlove said:
So define hip hop....i have asked this several times.
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Hip-hop is three artforms that unify under one culture. Those artforms are breaking/poplocking, graffiti, and rapping. You might include DJing but that is not distinctive to hip-hop, as you find it in myriad forms of electronica music (trance, techno, etc.) too.
 
satyr said:
Hip-hop is three artforms that unify under one culture. Those artforms are breaking/poplocking, graffiti, and rapping. You might include DJing but that is not distinctive to hip-hop, as you find it in myriad forms of electronica music (trance, techno, etc.) too.
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Alot of sampling....whats cool about that is thats kind of cool to figure where did they get that beat from.

A friend of mine and his son was liatening to diddys song about biggie. We told him it was sampled from stings song every breath u take. He swore up and down it wasnt. He looked highly hurt when we played them side by side.

Yeah...it seems to continuing to evolve for what it mean to them.

I know my grandfather hated the hell out of it.
 
goodlove said:
Alot of sampling....whats cool about that is thats kind of cool to figure where did they get that beat from.

A friend of mine and his son was liatening to diddys song about biggie. We told him it was sampled from stings song every breath u take. He swore up and down it wasnt. He looked highly hurt when we played them side by side.

Yeah...it seems to continuing to evolve for what it mean to them.

I know my grandfather hated the hell out of it.
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I knew hip-hop was heading into troubled waters when Curtis Blow was sued by Bernard Edwards and Nile Rogers of the group Chic in court for using Edwards' and Rogers' song Good Times in Blow's song Rapper's Delight(I think). P.M Dawn used Gilbert O'Sullivan's Alone Again(Naturally) in a song and O'Sullivan took P.M. Dawn to court.
 
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Gorath said:
I knew hip-hop was heading into troubled waters when Curtis Blow was sued by Bernard Edwards and Nile Rogers of the group Chic in court for using Edwards' and Rogers' song Good Times in Blow's song Rapper's Delight(I think). P.M Dawn used Gilbert O'Sullivan's Alone Again(Naturally) in a song and O'Sullivan took P.M. Dawn to court.
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Lol....hate to say it but ....
 
Gorath said:
I knew hip-hop was heading into troubled waters when Curtis Blow was sued by Bernard Edwards and Nile Rogers of the group Chic in court for using Edwards' and Rogers' song Good Times in Blow's song Rapper's Delight(I think).
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The Sugarhill Gang made Rapper's Delight. Kurtis made The Breaks.

Rodgers and Edwards threatened to sue, demanding entire song credit, and got the label and group trio to grant it. So to this day, Rodgers (,and Edwards Estate) get all the songwriting royalties.
 
Bliss said:
The Sugarhill Gang made Rapper's Delight. Kurtis made The Breaks.

Rodgers and Edwards threatened to sue, demanding entire song credit, and got the label and group trio to grant it. So to this day, Rodgers (,and Edwards Estate) get all the songwriting royalties.
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Thanks, Bliss.:)
 
goodlove said:
Its just sad that something that was produced by poor people to create a voice for the voiceless and something to just have fun turn do ugly
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Thank Deborah Harry and Blondie for bringing rap out of the underground when they made the song Rapture. My father had a remix of that. It had a long playing time on it. Sometimes, I think back to Bootsie and Funkadelic. Those were the days when r&b/ soul artists played and experimented. The keyboards, bass guitar and percussion were prominent and the lead guitar popped in on occasion. Then came the woodwinds and brass. Put all that into a stereo, turn up the volume and you're on your way to becoming a hit in your neighborhood.
 
goodlove said:
Its just sad that something that was produced by poor people to create a voice for the voiceless and something to just have fun turn do ugly
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This is what you've been saying pretty much the whole thread. In fact this is pretty much what you say everytime you discuss Hip Hop in any other threads whenever it has been discussed. Only difference this time is you see one of the current poster children for overly commercialized & corporate owned Hip Hop as a positive thing.
 
Ra said:
This is what you've been saying pretty much the whole thread. In fact this is pretty much what you say everytime you discuss Hip Hop in any other threads whenever it has been discussed. Only difference this time is you see one of the current poster children for overly commercialized & corporate owned Hip Hop as a positive thing.
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Uuh yeah. We will go with tha
 
Gorath said:
Thank Deborah Harry and Blondie for bringing rap out of the underground when they made the song Rapture. My father had a remix of that. It had a long playing time on it. Sometimes, I think back to Bootsie and Funkadelic. Those were the days when r&b/ soul artists played and experimented. The keyboards, bass guitar and percussion were prominent and the lead guitar popped in on occasion. Then came the woodwinds and brass. Put all that into a stereo, turn up the volume and you're on your way to becoming a hit in your neighborhood.
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Debbie and Fab 5 Freddie often get that distinction, but the reality is over a year earlier, Rapper's Delight was the first hip hop/rap song to become a mainstream hit, making Billboard's top 40 and a hit worldwide. It's still going strong 35 years later as a classic, and infact, "..Was preserved into the National Recording Registry by the Library of Congress in 2011, calling it "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant."
 
Ra said:
Ya'll realize ya'll are the ones who keep interjecting RACE into the equation right? Because "Yes" people do say the exact same shit about Nicki Minaj and others. Goodlove keeps bring up Rick Ross's fake ass for criticism, like no one has ever said shit about his greasy black ass. Yeah. It's cause she's a white girl. SMH.
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But, no one is saying these guys aren't Hip-hop. They call them wack. They say they aren't talented. They say they are studio hoods. But, no one is saying they aren't Hip-hop. What's the difference between them and her besides a vagina?

I'll take it a step further; I don't think she would get as much hate if she weren't some cute Barbie Doll chick (although she isn't that, really. At least not by white standards). But, if she was some struggle faced, sorry looking white chick, she wouldn't get so much scrutiny. Cats would think it was cute, then. Like they did with that filthy beeya Crayshawn. She was truly horrible and far less talented than Iggy. Damn, I could have done better than her and I haven't laced a beat in damn near a decade and a half. ...lol
 
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samson1701 said:
But, no one is saying these guys aren't Hip-hop. They call them wack. They say they aren't talented. They say they are studio hoods. But, no one is saying they aren't Hip-hop. What's the difference between them and her besides a vagina?

I'll take it a step further; I don't think she would get as much hate if she weren't some cute Barbie Doll chick (although she isn't that, really. At least not by white standards). But, if she was some struggle faced, sorry looking white chick, she wouldn't get so much scrutiny. Cats would think it was cute, then. Like they did with that filthy beeya Crayshawn. She was truly horrible and far less talented than Iggy. Damn, I could have done better than her and I haven't laced a beat in damn near a decade and a half. ...lol
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You seriously believe that Kreayshawn, V-Nasty,Lil Debbie or any other similar sub par female rappers wouldn't be getting called out for their wackness if they were getting the same high level exposure & push that Iggy Azalea is getting? :confused:
 
Ra said:
You seriously believe that Kreayshawn, V-Nasty,Lil Debbie or any other similar sub par female rappers wouldn't be getting called out for their wackness if they were getting the same high level exposure & push that Iggy Azalea is getting? :confused:
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Oh, they would get called out. No doubt. But, I don't think it would be to this extent. Although, I'm not familiar with V-nasty or Lil Debbie. Where they worse than Crayfish ... ur ... I mean Creayshawn?
 
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