both of the hadid sisters supposedly dating black men

[pettyofficerj]

I agree lighter skin people do get treated better.Lighter skin and biracial slaves were treated better then darker skin slaves but they were still slaves if their parents were.Today lighter skin Blacks and biracial Blacks are treated better then dark skin Blacks but they don't get the same treatment as Whites imo.

This has been quantified through study and happens among other races as well

This is what leads to division amongst us.......the light vs black debate didn't just pop up out of thin air

But...Vanessa Williams endured racism while growing up...and if she identifies with black I see no problem

I'd rather claim someone who knows what time it is and has been through what i have, than claim the darkest of blacks who never been through it in real life

 

[TERRASTAR18]

That was another thing l wanted to mention... she has always identified as Black.
And why wouldn't she. She naturally and instinctively aligned with the blood she was born from. Not otherwise, because she happens to have blue eyes.



Not sure what comfort your white friends are alluding to. To me, it's all about a person's behavior that asseses comfort levels.

Here..

'Williams endured her fair share of misery after breaking the color barrier. She received loads of hate mail and even threats on her life. Everyone seemed to be out to get her. When Penthouse published nude modeling photos of her that were taken in 1982, back when she was serving as a photographer’s assistant—they were unauthorized, and stolen—Williams was forced to resign as Miss America.

“I wrote a book about everything that I went through, and I spent a lot of time talking about the death threats, the FBI, the sharpshooters,” she says. “It was a graver situation and more dangerous years ago—the change that was happening and the uproar because of the color of my skin.."

exactly...tdk sounds ignorant.

 

[TERRASTAR18]

This has been quantified through study and happens among other races as well

This is what leads to division amongst us.......the light vs black debate didn't just pop up out of thin air

But...Vanessa Williams endured racism while growing up...and if she identifies with black I see no problem

I'd rather claim someone who knows what time it is and has been through what i have, than claim the darkest of blacks who never been through it in real life

preach. the only thing i disagree with is that she isn't claiming anything. she is lightskinned. she is full black.

 

[goodlove]

exactly...tdk sounds ignorant.

lol

 

[goodlove]

yall cold

This has been quantified through study and happens among other races as well

This is what leads to division amongst us.......the light vs black debate didn't just pop up out of thin air

But...Vanessa Williams endured racism while growing up...and if she identifies with black I see no problem

I'd rather claim someone who knows what time it is and has been through what i have, than claim the darkest of blacks who never been through it in real life

 

[RaiderLL]

Any daughter of mine wouldn't have a choice. I'm too dark for her to be considered anything else. She doesn't have the option to opt out or phase in and out at will.
For example Cameron Diaz gets to be white when it's convenient yet also gets to be Latina when she wants. Same goes for J.LO(think about how many times the character she plays always has white parents or family except for when she played a maid)
I don't say this stuff just to say it, there are differences. And its not just skin it's features as well. For example would any of you consider Wentworth Miller black? I think he's just as much black as Vanessa Williams

Not at all true my friend. Recessive genes win out all the time. You're not much (if any) darker than my bf and his child doesn't look black in the slightest. A dna test says the baby is indeed half black though I think the stereotypical look of the mixed (black & white) baby is very misleading. Rest assured even the darkest of black men can bring into this world a child light as heck with white people hair lol.

 

[Beasty]

For example Cameron Diaz gets to be white when it's convenient yet also gets to be Latina when she wants. Same goes for J.LO(think about how many times the character she plays always has white parents or family except for when she played a maid)

Cameron Diaz is white and Latina, and the jlo comment......You must believe hand gun rounds knock people down because it happens in the movies.

 

[pettyofficerj]

preach. the only thing i disagree with is that she isn't claiming anything. she is lightskinned. she is full black.

I'm just sayin

Brotha malcolm was on the light side to...let's not forget

yall cold

Nothing cold about it

Plenty of uncle ruckus dark guys out here who'd turn white overnight if they had the chance

Cameron Diaz is white and Latina, and the jlo comment......You must believe hand gun rounds knock people down because it happens in the movies.

Lol

 

[goodlove]

I'm just sayin

Brotha malcolm was on the light side to...let's not forget



Nothing cold about it

Plenty of uncle ruckus dark guys out here who'd turn white overnight if they had the chance



Lol

lol

lol

im still waiting on the pencil test.....thats new to me.

 

[K]

The Pencil Test

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencil_test_(South_Africa)

The pencil test is a method of assessing whether a person has Afro-textured hair. In the pencil test, a pencil is pushed through the person's hair. How easily it comes out determines whether the person has "passed" or "failed" the test.
This test was used to determine racial identity in South Africa during the apartheid era, distinguishing whites from coloureds and blacks. The test was partially responsible for splitting existing communities and families along perceived racial lines. Its formal authority ended with the end of apartheid in 1994. It remains an important part of South African cultural heritage and a symbol of racism.


(and no I don't support Wikipedia as a reputable source, but then I don't consider this type of garbage reputable).

 

[K]

Not at all true my friend. Recessive genes win out all the time. You're not much (if any) darker than my bf and his child doesn't look black in the slightest. A dna test says the baby is indeed half black though I think the stereotypical look of the mixed (black & white) baby is very misleading. Rest assured even the darkest of black men can bring into this world a child light as heck with white people hair lol.

Agreed. Way too many cases of darker people with very light children and very light people with very dark children. You just never know.

 

[free816]

Only point my man trying to make she could have passed for a diff race I got a book on genetics last Christmas learned a lot about race and what not,, the hot comb comment i was being silly , fully aware she is black but you can't tell me if she was some nameless person and the call came out looking for a 5'6 black woman it's gonna be a while b4 the police knocks on her door

 

[pettyofficerj]

Only point my man trying to make she could have passed for a diff race I got a book on genetics last Christmas learned a lot about race and what not,, the hot comb comment i was being silly , fully aware she is black but you can't tell me if she was some nameless person and the call came out looking for a 5'6 black woman it's gonna be a while b4 the police knocks on her door

I have an aunt who's only a few years my senior.......this comment takes me back to my childhood.......watching her SHOUT when the old heads put that comb in her shit

Hot combs, food stamps and grilled cheese sandwiches, good times, lol

 

[free816]

I have an aunt who's only a few years my senior.......this comment takes me back to my childhood.......watching her SHOUT when the old heads put that comb in her shit

Hot combs, food stamps and grilled cheese sandwiches, good times, lol

U 100 % crazy lol

My momma found one some years ago brought it home stuck it on the stove told the wife that curling iron ain't where it's at one time my daughter used that thing,, damn thing heavy enough to be a door stopper

 

[pettyofficerj]

U 100 % crazy lol

My momma found one some years ago brought it home stuck it on the stove told the wife that curling iron ain't where it's at one time my daughter used that thing,, damn thing heavy enough to be a door stopper

U ain't neva lied,....they have some weight to em lol

Props to mom dukes for lookin out tho

If I had a daughter, I'd definitely hit up the sistas in the family for help....only thing I know how to do is use a brush, pink lotion and a pick

 

[The Dark King]

Only point my man trying to make she could have passed for a diff race I got a book on genetics last Christmas learned a lot about race and what not,, the hot comb comment i was being silly , fully aware she is black but you can't tell me if she was some nameless person and the call came out looking for a 5'6 black woman it's gonna be a while b4 the police knocks on her door

Thanks someone gets it.

 

[The Dark King]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencil_test_(South_Africa)

The pencil test is a method of assessing whether a person has Afro-textured hair. In the pencil test, a pencil is pushed through the person's hair. How easily it comes out determines whether the person has "passed" or "failed" the test.
This test was used to determine racial identity in South Africa during the apartheid era, distinguishing whites from coloureds and blacks. The test was partially responsible for splitting existing communities and families along perceived racial lines. Its formal authority ended with the end of apartheid in 1994. It remains an important part of South African cultural heritage and a symbol of racism.


(and no I don't support Wikipedia as a reputable source, but then I don't consider this type of garbage reputable).

Again thanks someone gets it.
All took was a very simple Google search but they want to act like I just made this shit up.

 

[pettyofficerj]

Again thanks someone gets it.
All took was a very simple Google search but they want to act like I just made this shit up.

Lmao

Why even bother sometimes

As for pencils and hair......I used to actually store them in my hair, on the sides when I was younger

I was a hipster like that, while everyone else thought they were cool with pencils on their ears

As for Vanessa Williams...shit u turkeys claim the fuck out of tiger woods, even tho that dude told u ninjas he wasn't black

 

[The Dark King]

so tiger and vanessa never dealt with racism....dude stop while you are behind.......the same lewis hamilton has dealt with plenty of racism.

So I guess Irish people are black since they were commonly referred to as n*****r?

 

[The Dark King]

so tiger and vanessa never dealt with racism....dude stop while you are behind.......the same lewis hamilton has dealt with plenty of racism.

Lmao

Why even bother sometimes

As for pencils and hair......I used to actually store them in my hair, on the sides when I was younger

I was a hipster like that, while everyone else thought they were cool with pencils on their ears

As for Vanessa Williams...shit u turkeys claim the fuck out of tiger woods, even tho that dude told u ninjas he wasn't black

I don't claim dude and this isn't even a matter of claiming as much as question hoe much of the black experience do these people experience? And it's not just skin tone it's how the world embraces you. People act like the phenomenon of passing never happened. Like hiring practices weren't based on this field slave house slave dynamic.