Rachel Dolezal NAACP controversy

So, I would have to wonder if there is a possibility of charges based on the false reports. Especially with sending things through the mail. Isn't that a Federal offense?

But all that should be overlooked right? Especially in a society where true hate crimes are not taken seriously enough as it is?

Is it really ok, or no big deal to take up law enforcement time and resources on repeated false charges spanning the time of many years?

People keep saying "it's as simple as that" (on either side of the conversation) nothing is simple here, nor do I think we've heard/seen it all.

As for her parents should sit her down. It doesn't sound like that would be a possibility given she's been estranged from them. Her issues and actions are beyond her parents capabilities.

As for the whole thing about her questioning whether or not her parents are her biological parents, Maury has came out and offered to test them all. Which sortof fits with how crazy all this is.


(ok and SERIOUSLY we are now posting things from BW forums?! WTF)
 
And PLEASE in a country where Kim Kardashian, Fake Housewives, and the like and the crap they pull is plastered all over the air ways, someone is going to complain about THIS story getting air time?

Give me a break.
 
Very true, KinCA ^^^^^^^^^^^

Here, she calls white people impersonating Africans as disturbing and offensive...

She says light-skins get superior treatment in her (black) culture's hierarchy...

This woman is an actress playing a role, l'm absolutely convinced now. It's all an attention-seeking game where she parrots real-life anecdotes that BP experience, and owns them as her own..She's pathalogical.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugIHac6Q7Z0
 
Here, she calls white people impersonating Africans as disturbing and offensive...

She says light-skins get superior treatment in her (black) culture's hierarchy...

This woman is an actress playing a role, l'm absolutely convinced now. It's all an attention-seeking game where she parrots real-life anecdotes that BP experience, and owns them as her own..She's pathalogical.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugIHac6Q7Z0
The funny and ironic thing is that this would have meant so much more had she said it as a white person. A lot of the problem with race relations is not that black people are ignorant to certain historical events but that white people are and to acknowledge the history and to show any understanding of what took place would actually help heal this bs.
I agree this shit had to be a game for her, everyone seems to be ok with this and how she called out Tim Wise for not really understanding the black struggle. Shit at least he's enough of an ally to highlight the bs without trying to appropriate blackness.
 
The following is a list of the alleged hate crimes Rachel Dolezal reported, compiled from police reports in Couer D'Alene, Idaho and Spokane, Washington. Investigators were never able to verify her claims.

• September 21, 2009: Dolezal, then working as a staffer at the Human Rights Education Institute in Couer d'Alene, reports finding a noose on her front porch at the Spokane home she shares with a live-in boyfriend. She identifies herself as African American, is very concerned about her welfare, and "has been harassed by white supremicists in the past." No arrests were made in the case.

• Nov 19, 2009: Dolezal files a report on behalf of the Human Rights Education Institute in Couer d'Alene, where she worked. She claims she discovered a swastika sticker on the institute's door. Security cameras had malfunctioned at the time the swastika was placed, according to the police report.

• Sept. 3, 2010: Dolezal files a malicious injury report about a July incident in Couer d'Alene, when she allegedly found a palm-size dent on the front passenger panel.

• April 11, 2010: Dolezal files a report for harassing phone calls in Couer d'Alene. Dolezal claims to have received a vulgar phone call from a female student at North Idaho College. The prosecuting attorney's office declined to prosecute the case because they did not find sufficient evidence of phone harassment.

• June 15, 2010: Dolezal files a harassment report of a noose hanging in her carport behind her rented Coeur d'Alene home. In August of the same year, a detective files a supplemental report stating that in an effort to find potential witnesses who might have seen someone hang the rope, he contact's the home's owner, Randy Bell.

"He told me that he was 90 percent sure it was rope he hung there approximately (one year before the report)," the officer writes in the report. *"He said he hung a deer up there and he believes the rope is from that time."

Bell told police that he told Dolezal he was the one who had hung the rope in the rafters.

"I asked him when he gave Rachel the information that he was the one who may have hung the rope up there, and he said sometime around the time she filed the report," the police report states. "Randy was sympathetic to Rachel's concerns about the rope but he felt he may be the one who hung the rope up there."

The detective called Dolezal on Aug. 25, 2010 and left her a message to call him about the incident. He did not receive a return call from Dolezal. The case was closed Aug. 26, 2010.

• Feb. 25, 2015: Dolezal, then president of the Spokane NAACP, reports to Spokane police of receiving an envelope in the NAACP post office box containing an 18-page letter filled with harassing statements and images aimed at her. The envelope is not postmarked and Dolezal is the only person known to have a key to the P.O. box.

Dolezal reports receiving another letter from the same sender in May and postmarked Oakland, California. After an extensive investigation involving the U.S. Postal Service, the Spokane Police, the F.B.I. and a DNA matching effort, the case was suspended June 10 due to lack of evidence.

• Feb. 26, 2015: Dolezal reports her son was called a racial slur and was chased into a Spokane store. After an investigation, witnesses said no racial slur was made and that he walked casually into the store to buy candy. The case was closed March 23.

• April 13: Two people mistakenly walked into Dolezal's unlocked house because they were lost. Dolezal claims the two people attempted a home invasion, and she felt harassed. But her son, home at the time, told police he wasn't scared.

"They seemed like normal, middle-class white people," he told police, noting the couple took the time to try and catch the family cat, which had escaped into a neighbor's yard. Police were unable to identify the two people and determine what their intent was. The case was suspended April 27.

• Additional reporting by Christine Pelisek.

I don't think she lied about all these reports. The ones from 2010 in Idaho sound very plausible.

IMO she's probably overcompensating and there's a strong chance she made at least some false reports of harassment to law enforcement.

I don't think all of them were fake though.
If you're an IR couple in Idaho, I'd assume some people are not going to be cool with it and let their opinion be known.

Again, no one is condoning making false police reports. That's wrong.

Ironically, if Dolezal can be proven to have made false racial harassment charges, it would demonstrate she had caused harm to the African American community by passing for Black.

Which is why I expect this line of investigation to be pursued by her detractors.

But come on, the woman found a noose hanging outside her home in Idaho and the homeowner said he'd put it there a year before.
That sounds suspiciously convenient by the homeowner.

If you find a noose hanging outside your apartment/house, how rational are you going to be about it???

What I think is Ms. Dolezal is too quick to file charges with the police for any perceived offense.
 
I don't think she lied about all these reports. The ones from 2010 in Idaho sound very plausible.

IMO she's probably overcompensating and there's a strong chance she made at least some false reports of harassment to law enforcement.

I don't think all of them were fake though.
If you're an IR couple in Idaho, I'd assume some people are not going to be cool with it and let their opinion be known.

Again, no one is condoning making false police reports. That's wrong.

Ironically, if Dolezal can be proven to have made false racial harassment charges, it would demonstrate she had caused harm to the African American community by passing for Black.

Which is why I expect this line of investigation to be pursued by her detractors.

But come on, the woman found a noose hanging outside her home in Idaho and the homeowner said he'd put it there a year before.
That sounds suspiciously convenient by the homeowner.

If you find a noose hanging outside your apartment/house, how rational are you going to be about it???

What I think is Ms. Dolezal is too quick to file charges with the police for any perceived offense.
None took place in Idaho.. She lived in Spokane, Washington.

A dint in her car is malicious injury?

Two nooses in less than a year? The second one the person says absolutely it was me, l used it for deer. Who admits it if it was to intimidate? It probably was for deer. He had no problem saying he created it , it was his house.

A swastika that a camera that's always on but mysteriously not on and doesn't capture?

An 18 page manifesto with no postmark left in her box and only she had the key?. Ok.

Rachel never returns calls as the numerous investigations deepen? Ok.

No other BP reports hate crimes prior, suddenly there's a rash when she arrives...and the only victim is her?

Again, l put my money on that she was busy building an 'authentic resume' by mimicking true victims of Hate crimes (false reporting done by 'victims who set it up for sympathy, happens more than you think).
Collectively, huge red flags.
 
Curious if you see her as a black woman, or white woman...
Im waiting that one.^^^^

This is where integrity comes in. Shes the classic example if "the boy who cried wolf"
I see her as a human being, but we all got to be labeled in Amerikkka right, she was born white but identify as Blk as simple as that. She has assimilated and culturally blk, she did not do it for mockery or to cheat the system so she can gain great wealth. To me she appears to be sincere and her heart is not trying to be malignant. She just a troubled lady. Don't get me wrong I don't condone her falsification of those crime reports and totally against that and wished she hasn't..... but to call her all sorts of names and throw her under the bus coz of her identity crisis is cruel. Her parents if they loved her they will sit down with her and try to help work thru her issues and be there for her rather than throwing her under high speed bus in nationally televised media, smh

None took place in Idaho.. She lived in Spokane, Washington.

A dint in her car is malicious injury?

Two nooses in less than a year? The second one the person says absolutely it was me, l used it for deer. Who admits it if it was to intimidate? It probably was for deer. He had no problem saying he created it , it was his house.

A swastika that a camera that's always on but mysteriously not on and doesn't capture?

An 18 page manifesto with no postmark left in her box and only she had the key?. Ok.

Rachel never returns calls as the numerous investigations deepen? Ok.

No other BP reports hate crimes prior, suddenly there's a rash when she arrives...and the only victim is her?

Again, l put my money on that she was busy building an 'authentic resume' by mimicking true victims of Hate crimes (false reporting done by 'victims who set it up for sympathy, happens more than you think).
Collectively, huge red flags.
 
So your assertion is that lying and committing fraud is the same thing as telling a kid a story. That lying about your family, making false discrimination claims along with getting your brother to lie is the same as telling a child about Santa Claus? Lmao ok.
Same question I asked Appiah.......

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Same question I asked Appiah.......

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Well that's not necessarily the definition but garnered sympathy and I wouldn't be surprised if that didn't help her get her position. Nothing like someone who is living the struggle to lead it.
You're actually standing up for someone who lied about hate crimes? She's a pathological liar why are you so into her?
 
Well that's not necessarily the definition but garnered sympathy and I wouldn't be surprised if that didn't help her get her position. Nothing like someone who is living the struggle to lead it.
You're actually standing up for someone who lied about hate crimes? She's a pathological liar why are you so into her?

Well according to Merriam-Webster. Oxford says the same for our British cultured e-acquaintance Appiah.

I'm not into her. I just don't see the need to throw darts at her. She is not a problem she simply has problems.

Why do you think the media is drawing so much attention to this lady? Do you think it's because they sympathize with blacks? :smt048 Is it because she has done harm in the black community and they want to help make some of those wrongs right?

Could it be that they are disgusted with her because they think that she hates being white among other reasons that differ from the reasons that you mentioned as your own?
 
Why she garnered so much attention?

Due to the lies she told and the position she held. She wouldve possibly gotten that position without lying. Theres a wm who was or still us a naacp prez in mississippi. If i remember correctly.

Maybe people think she hate being white...thats the fascination....thats a problem.
She threw her parents under the bus...now thats the biggie.


Well according to Merriam-Webster. Oxford says the same for our British cultured e-acquaintance Appiah.

I'm not into her. I just don't see the need to throw darts at her. She is not a problem she simply has problems.

Why do you think the media is drawing so much attention to this lady? Do you think it's because they sympathize with blacks? :smt048 Is it because she has done harm in the black community and they want to help make some of those wrongs right?

Could it be that they are disgusted with her because they think that she hates being white among other reasons that differ from the reasons that you mentioned as your own?
 
Well according to Merriam-Webster. Oxford says the same for our British cultured e-acquaintance Appiah.

I'm not into her. I just don't see the need to throw darts at her. She is not a problem she simply has problems.

Why do you think the media is drawing so much attention to this lady? Do you think it's because they sympathize with blacks? :smt048 Is it because she has done harm in the black community and they want to help make some of those wrongs right?

Could it be that they are disgusted with her because they think that she hates being white among other reasons that differ from the reasons that you mentioned as your own?

You do realize it's the liberal media who were gung-ho keeping this in the news. The Right have moved on on it because she's a laughing stock to them

At the end of the day, when the dust settles, she will be remembered as a joke or someone with deep identity and honesty issues.
None of the people in her adopted life have come forth to really defend her, if at all. That's telling. Even her "black father" has 3 times denied he is. She's toxic and needs to sit with doctors to help her. She needs help, not captain save-o's.
 
You do realize it's the liberal media who were gung-ho keeping this in the news. The Right have moved on on it because she's a laughing stock to them

At the end of the day, when the dust settles, she will be remembered as a joke or someone with deep identity and honesty issues.
None of the people in her adopted life have come forth to really defend her, if at all. That's telling. Even her "black father" has 3 times denied he is. She's toxic and needs to sit with doctors to help her. She needs help, not captain save-o's.

She needs help huh? Now you are echoing me. Such a strange conclusion to your dart throwing roast session.

All you bring into this is her personal life like Monicas' panties in a discussion on Bill Clinton. No wonder you see her as joke long before "the dust settles."
 
She needs help huh? Now you are echoing me. Such a strange conclusion to your dart throwing roast session.

All you bring into this is her personal life like Monicas' panties in a discussion on Bill Clinton. No wonder you see her as joke long before "the dust settles."

Now I'm echoing? Where have you been? I said this same shit 10 whole days ago (see below).

Lmao at "bringing up her personal life" That is all this "l was born in a tepee, l hunt animals in africa, my pops is on the run from the po-po like a runaway slave, let's discuss my tight afro that I've struggled with all my life" woman, yaps about -- her personal life. Joke's on you, Beasty. ;)

Did you read the reports on her? People in the Org were suspecting her to be a major BSer. Why on earth would you want a pathological liar at the helm of your local organisation? Ridiculous. She needs theuraputic mental health help....how can you not see this? You aren't doing her any favors by not recognizing her state of mind is delusional.
 
Now I'm echoing? Where have you been? I said this same shit 10 whole days ago (see below).

Lmao at "bringing up her personal life" That is all this "l was born in a tepee, l hunt animals in africa, my pops is on the run from the po-po like a runaway slave, let's discuss my tight afro that I've struggled with all my life" woman, yaps about -- her personal life. Joke's on you, Beasty. ;)

Oh my bad I didn't know you roast people after you realize they very well may be mentally ill.

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Sure there are details of her personal life available but you ONLY discuss those details as if her roles in the community are irrelevant. Are we talking about a former NAACP leader or someone that just worked at a call center?

Or is there not a difference??
 
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