Conspiracy Theories...Have any?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bliss, May 16, 2017.

  1. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

  2. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member


    I'd research this story very carefully.
    If N Korea had all this potential wealth from mineral deposits, why haven't they and China already mined it??

    North Korea is a very poor country that couldn't survive without foreign aid from China and Russia.

    North Korea is our enemy because they tried to invade South Korea during the Cold War and has never ceased hostilities against the United States.

    There's always someone making money off wars, but in this case the Pentagon would be perfectly fine dropping a few nukes on Pyongyang and bombing them off the map.
     
  3. bodhesatva

    bodhesatva Well-Known Member

    Totally agree. Most dictatorships that sit on giant piles of cash (in the form of oil or minerals or whatever else) exploit the heck out of those resources. For personal gain, of course, not for the good of the country, but the idea that a megalomaniac like Kim Jong Un (or his father before him) would hear about giant piles of money sitting underneath them and not brutally exploit it seems... uncharacteristic, at least.
     
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  4. bodhesatva

    bodhesatva Well-Known Member

    A lot of times when conspiracy theories fall apart, it's because of reasons like the one Andreboba just listed above. For instance, there is a well known conspiracy that pharmaceutical companies have a cure for cancer, they just won't give it to us because they make more money off treating sick people than they would if they cured us.

    But under scrutiny, that idea falls apart -- and again, not because we have to believe the best in people, but rather because people are selfish and self interested. Yes, it's possible a single pharmaceutical company might hide something from us -- but why would any competitor do the same? If I run pharmaceutical company A, and I discover a cure for cancer, my chief concerns are: 1) I can create this new drug and crush my competitors, who will lose huge sources of revenue because no one will want their cancer treatments anymore and 2) I can basically monopolize cancer treatment for the next decade+, due to drug patents, which will make me billions upon billions of dollars over the long run.

    Yes, you could make the argument that the entire pharmaceutical industry is better off if nobody invents a cure (although I'm not actually sure that's true, but let's just roll with it for now), but individually each pharmaceutical company has a very strong incentive to find a cure and crush their competitors. Even if you tried to create some sort of secret cabal, there would be a gigantic, constant desire by each player in that secret cabal to break ranks, because the first company to break rank and actually release the cure would make gazillions of dollars and everyone else would be crushed beneath them.
     
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  5. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Russia and oil comes to mind. Putin is a multi-Bllionaire.
     
  6. bodhesatva

    bodhesatva Well-Known Member

  7. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Good post! You are a thinker. :)
     
  8. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    You just explained why I don't believe in any conspiracy theories better than I ever could.
     
  9. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    The Tuskegee Experiment was once thought of as a conspiracy theory.

    So was Planned Parenthood, founded on the principle of eugenics and exterminating the Black race.
     
  10. MightyLighty

    MightyLighty Well-Known Member

    o_Oo_Oo_Oo_O Mrs Curves, was it NOT a conspiracy???
     
  11. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    The Jimmy Dore Show just did a segment on this that explained it:

     
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  12. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

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  13. MightyLighty

    MightyLighty Well-Known Member

  14. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    This vid is about the mysteries of the moon, but indirectly it shows what an effin MIRACLE planet Earth really is.

     
  15. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

  16. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Damn!:oops: She out here tellin..

     
  17. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

  18. Beasty

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  19. bodhesatva

    bodhesatva Well-Known Member

    Sort of, but not exactly. The Tuskegee experiments were done before informed consent was a codified medical standard -- meaning that in the early 1900s medical experiments could legally be conducted without even telling the patient that they were being experimented on. This happened rather frequently to dispossessed peoples -- not just African Americans, but other poor communities and *especially* to the disabled or mentally impaired. The horrible nature of the Tuskegee experiments were a big reason why today experiments cannot be performed on unwilling or unknowing participants, and also why test results cannot be legally hidden from patients.

    So you can call it a conspiracy, and that's not entirely untrue, but it's not a conspiracy in the sense that they were hiding anything illegal. Unfortunately, medical ethics at the time were terrible. Sorry to interject, but I'm a nurse who has had a keen interest in medical history!
     
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  20. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    Interesting conspiracy theory at the 9:00 minute mark about the elites taking out popular musicians back in 1950's-1970's:

     
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