Cuba Normalization

This. And I'd sandwich Argentines and Colombians in there between #1 and #2.

 

Cubans hate blacks? You mean people of European origin who settled on Cuba? Because MANY of their athletes have African roots. An in-law of mine escaped Cuba in 1962 with his mother, both are black. The majority of his family remains there. He went back after 50 years to visit. He never expressed any emotions that racism was any worse there than in the States.

I've never read anything that since Castro came to power, racism increased.

 

Curious, what do you think of this documentation of racism in Cuba? Is this S.O.P?

http://www.therealcuba.com/Page21.htm

 

Fascinating. I understand that Castro when he had Cuban soldiers fighting in Angola (Africa) back in the 1970's sent primarily blacks there to fight and die. The Angolan freedom fighters said that targeted and killed the black Cubans more than the white Cubans to send a message to the black Cubans. I would like to know why the American black intelligentsia think Cubans are their compatriots?

 

I don't know about targeting for kills, but I do recall moments during past American wars where the enemy used racial propaganda to stop blacks from fighting

 

I didn't know that - fascinating

 

In none of my interactions with Cubans of any race, several of whom performed military service, was this shared with me, in our hours and hours of conversations about the positive and negative aspects of pre and post-revolution Cuba. What we do know empirically (as opposed to anecdotally) is that revolutionary movements in Cuba always enjoyed distinguished participation by African-Cubans, be it the anti-colonial struggle of the 1880s-90s or the anti-imperialist struggle of the 1950s. The affinity between African-Amerian intellectuals and the Cuban revolution is due largely to a couple of factors:

1) Castro's support of Malcolm X's charges against the US in the UN;

2) his willingness to house the Cuban delegation in Harlem at a hotel after most white-owned NY hotels refused to house him and meet everyday residents in diners, etc during his stay;

3) the prominent role African-Cubans played in the revolutionary movement, including General Juan Almeida, at a time when African-Americans were either in segregated units or struggling to get out of the mess halls in the US military; and

4) his vocal opposition to racism at a time when nearly every white public official on the planet was still on the fence about black inferiority, even when contemplating desegregation.

5) Cuba's willingness to provide asylum for Black Revolutionary Movement figures like Joanne Chesimard/Assata Shakur, etc.

The anti-Castro Cuban right is exceedingly racist, which was a significant factor in some of their initial support of Castro against Batista (a black biracial Cuban). However, because Batista upheld the white power structure and it soon became clear that Castro would not and openly embraced socialism after being rebuffed by the US, black Cubans joined him en masse, and white Cubans deserted him in droves. The anti-Castro right in the US is aware of this and Cuba's black majority and constantly attempts to play up "evidence" of Cuba's (and Castro's) racism to erode support among African-Americans. Is there bigotry in Cuba? Of course, without a doubt. Has Cuba taken more vigorous steps to eradicate official racism than most countries in this hemisphere? Also true, without a doubt.

Has the Cuban Revolution outlived its usefulness? Yes. Has it also played a role in trying to move the Cuban people move beyond colonialism and racism? Yes. Despite its many failings, it has done more to address these issues than any other country in Latin America.

It is also true that for African-Americans to fully eradicate racism in the US an internationalist approach will be essential, in light of the unwillingness and inability of the US political system to acknowledge and accept responsibility for atrocities and errors committed in its name.




http://www.brothermalcolm.net/2002/mx_1990/documents.htm

 

It's funny

You want blacks to join the bandwagon and hate other countries and communism, all the while treating them like shit in their own backyard

This is what happens

 

all embargoes need to be completely lifted. Get it out of the way and let "traditional commerce" sink or swim.
most importantly, single men need to be able to visit and enjoy the night life and beaches..

 

Fascinating. Batista was bi-racial? I did not know that. I need to bone up more on that history in Latin America and the Caribbean of mixed races who ruled over the blacks like in Haiti, Dominican Republic, Brazil, etc....

 

Even though Batista was Mulatto and ruled the country for almost 20 years,he could not get into the White Havana Yacht Club.

 

Sammy Sosa is a Dominican not,Cuban. In the last few years the ghost of Batista is creeping into Cuba like prostitution and Whites working the hotels and beach resorts. It is up to the Black Cubans to make sure such discrimmination does not come back to Cuba when the Castro Brothers are gone.

 

Most European colonies left behind a mixed-race administrative caste that continued the former colony's control for years after independence was achieved. It served to stagnate growth for years.

Interesting interview with the author of a new book about US organized crime in Cuba during Batista's regime, "Havana Nocturne":

 

If you try something for 50 years and it doesnt work, you stop doing that and try something else. America are allies with some of the most oppressive regimes in the world like Saudi and Equatorial Guinea( at least when Dubya was President don't know about now) so there is nothing new here. Or is it because Cuba is right at America's doorstep so Castro is the Devil Incarnate while the Ruler of Saudi who wont make allow women to drive is an ally of America. The old twat and his brother will be popping off soon anyway

 

Excellent comparison. I always forget about the Saudis when tallying up global abuses.

 

O4,not only the Mob but,multinational companies ruled Cuba. For example they got color TV via NBC in the mid to late 50's. It would not return until the late 70's.

 

That explains why the central theme of the government has been sovereignty more so than communism, since the revolution's success.

 

I want to visit Cuba. Maybe this will someday be possible thanks to President Obama. The American flag as of today flies over the U.S. Embassy in Havana. If only I owned a cruise ship to take the thousands who want to go there in the years ahead. Now, El Presidente Obama how about uniting Cubans of African Ancestry with us blacks in this country. Cuba has about 16 to 17 percent of it's population which is black, yet their government is still lily white. Take the unprecedented step of starting with Cuba to liberate your black brothers throughout the Americas in which there are millions being the first black President of these United States of the AMERICAS.

 

I wish i was single and travelled to Havana, hooked up with a sexually repressed Cuban mami ready to unleash herself and celebrate the raising of the American flag on Cuban soil after half a century plus

 

16 to 17? Try 50-55%.