Do black men like babies more than other races?

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by Iffy'swifey, Dec 14, 2005.

  1. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

    I hate to stereotype, generalise or bundle everyone together into a box, but it seems (to me at least) that black men often like babies and children more than other races do.

    Black men are often more keen to start families sooner and they also seem to value children higher than other races do. I've also noticed that black men take more notice of friend's and families children than other races do.

    For example, since having my baby, all of my man's have been really interested in her, in fact one of them would regularly keep in touch (from Africa) during the pregnancy to make sure everything was OK, he even "sensed" the birth and called me just 20 minutes after I had given birth - but obviously I was otherwise engaged and couldn't take his call! He, and other friends are all asking for photos of her, are sending these photos to their friends and family and generally can't wait to cuddle her. But white men seem less than interested, they will ask but more out of politeness I think. Or maybe they don't need to ask because their wives and girlfriends have already bored them about it!

    Also, when out with my baby in her pushchair, I often see black men having a little peek into the pushchair as they walk past, but I may as well be invisible to the white men, unless I accidentally run over their foot with the pram wheel...then I get cursed! And I don't think the black men are looking because they can see my baby is mixed race, as she is quite light skinned and when all wrapped up in her snow suit you can't tell, also these man are angling to look before they've even seen her.

    So what's it all about? Or am I making a sweeping generalisation?
     
  2. MistressB

    MistressB New Member

    No I don't think so, my (soon to be ex) man is wild about babies and isn't it the case that, in both the West Indies and in Africa, "family" is of paramount importance, and people are largely defined by their success in raising a family or in being part of a family...whereas in the West, success is defined by your status as an individual. That is an innate cultural difference as far as I know. Perhaps white men are also a little scared of babies on some level - well all men are afraid they will drop or break the little tykes, but it would be hard to pinpoint exactly what an English man's role would be in childrearing - equality is not so far advanced that it is common for a man to stay home and be the primary carer, yet they are required to do more than simple tasks, so I think some men feel a bit lost and ambivalent in their whole approach to children because of that.
     
  3. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

    Yes, good point about success relating to your family etc. Also, black families are often larger than white families at least, so maybe black men are simply more used to be around babies and children?

    I seem to remember someone telling me a Nigerian saying abut a man having never existed if he doesn't have children (particularly a son) as he hasn't produced another generation to replace him. I can't remember how it goes, but I think that was the general gist!
     
  4. MistressB

    MistressB New Member

    Exactly. Both men and women - as far as I know - in those traditional types of community, are regarded as failures if they don't reproduce. Shame, really.
     
  5. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    its like work, black women have always been in the work force while most white women were being kept and at home by their white men. black men have always been connected to domestic life, more than white men. most black men in my culture (gullah and southern/creole) can cook, diaper babies, babysit them without a manual, wash dishes, do chores, while their white male counter part has only had to do them in the last several years with the womens liberation movement.

    i love babies and do exactly the same as the BM described by wifey. i love holding them, being around them and teaching them. playing with them. my friends always trust me with their kids and asks me to take care of them often. I am very close to my nieces and nephews and always thinking about spoiling them with gifts and kisses.

    i also notice pregnant women, as i find them very sexy with that mothering glow. I see most white men just wont look at a pregnant woman and dont want to be bothered with a child, even their own.

    finally, many African cultures as are many cultures of People of color are Matriarchal and so black men tend to be more nurturing and comfortable with child rearing. we like are women earthy, real, natural, strong and self assured, working beside us not walking behind us
     
  6. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

     
  7. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    it is a males natural reaction to pregnant women, they want to protect them and the women give off a warmth that says protect me( of course that is not true in your case) but biologically we are alot like the animal kingdom in that respect. we are told to pay special attention to pregnant women and give them special courtesies,

    i see a glow that is just beautiful on most of their faces. they smile more, they seem a bit vulnerable and they give off maternal yet sexual quality hard to describe. most are not popping them out but rather gently giving birth to the most vulnerable beings, but others i am sure just see it as a physical act of popping a kid out so they can get on with their lives--we have hard line radical feminist like that in teh US
     
  8. LaydeezmanCris

    LaydeezmanCris New Member

    I really enjoy this topic but i cannot say much as i have never witnessed a woman giving birth before or lived with a pregnant one so there's a limit to what i can say. But i certainly would love to have some beautiful kids with my girlfriend (fiance-to-be). I think there is so much joy and pride in knowing that you're about to have a child. Besides, having a woman pregnant makes you love her even more for so many reasons that only those who have been there would understand.
     
  9. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    i helped deliver my baby and i am adopting a baby next year
     
  10. LaydeezmanCris

    LaydeezmanCris New Member

    are you married?
     
  11. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

    If you've helped deliver a baby then you must know it's not "gentle" as such, it's hard work!

    I don't like to harp on about my own experience, but it was much more difficult than I thought. The hospital wouldn't send an ambulance, despite it being 5.30 AM on a Friday and me living in a rural area with no car. I couldn't have a water birth as engineers were fixing the light switch and the midwifery staff changed teams THREE times! But despite all that I did it without any pain relief, using only aromatherapy oils (Clary sage to sniff and a blend that Iffy massaged into back).

    I was so exhausted afterwards that I couldn't hold my own baby, fortunately Iffy was very eager to get his paws on her so he took over! My bad experience was featured in the local paper here, gentle it was not. But all so worth it as our baby is gorgeous, truly beautiful and really has given a whole new meaning to the word love.
     
  12. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    yes yours was a difficult and different experience, ours wasnt and my friends and family members werent
     
  13. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    I wuv babies, cant wait to adopt a baby next year
     
  14. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

    May I ask how/why you're adopting a pikin? Have you hooked up with Angelina Jolie?!
     
  15. 'Sup.

    'Sup. New Member

    I think that is awesome. Adopting is a very nice act Tuckereed 8)
     
  16. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

    Not always easy though. My youngest brother is adopted and he's quite the pain in the arse. He always threw being adopted at us and used it as an excuse for being naughty. Some adopted children get a chip on their shoulder about it, and I can't blame them for it really.
     
  17. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    why would i hook up with angelina jolie? she is cute but not my type.

    adopting from china because there are alot of kids who need adopting and i love children
     
  18. 100%African

    100%African New Member

    A typical African values kids because we believe that a man is not complete if he doesn't have children to carryon his legacy. You would often hear men talking about struggling and working so hard so that they can educate and bring up their kids properly. In fact the strongest driving force for marriage is to raise legitimate kids. A man's pride is his kids. A typical African would not brag about his wealth or assets but would rather tell you about his children and their level of education and their occupation. Look at a typical obituary in a local paper here and you would see a complete listing of the mans kids and their occupation and where they work. You would often her phrases like he is a big man all his kids are university graduate, some are doctors, lawyers, engineers etc etc.
     
  19. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    I have worked and lived with brothas who are like this, in fact, I often see black women leaving their children behind to see take care of by black men, and the black men seem to be able to handle caring for the babies better. The babies are usually more willing to comply to what the father wants them to do or not do, like cry and make a bunch of irritating noise, or sit down somewhere quietly and don't move.


    Can't say I LOVE babies, but for some odd reason, I'm good with kids, even when I act like I don't like them. :lol: Some of them get a kick out of that.


    Don't find pregnant women sexy, but I have nothing against them.


    And not in front of us either.
     
  20. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    I feel the same way.
     

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