Do Black Men Respect White Women

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by missshyness, May 31, 2010.

  1. missshyness

    missshyness Active Member

    As someone suggested to start a thread about this, I though I would jump in & ask. There seems to be a broad spectrum of attitudes towards white women. Some seem to like them, some might see them as privileged, or rich & spoiled. I think the media does not always help white women's image, especially for other countries. The media often feed images of bikini clad super skinny (bordering on anorexic) super models. In some foreign movies I have seen, & in some of the garages of local auto shops in my area, even among a population where there may be mostly blacks or other minorities, the ubiquitous blond skinny bikini woman posters makes its way on some walls. This probably affects attitudes to white women, where minorities in third world countries may only see white women like those in the pin up posters or rich celebrities. so they may not see them as fully human like them, but as some alien privileged other. As a result I dont think people in third world countries & here do not always get a full & accurate picture of white women.

    I think for one way for someone to see that we are all at a fundamental core level human beings, is to go to a hospital, especially one with all colors of people, for all to see that we are all human & suffer, not just blacks, not just whites & so on but everyone. A white woman one may see on the street may appear to always be better off, but one never knows what might be going on in her individual life, she maybe going to a hospital for treatments for an illness, maybe she has a loved one ill in hospital & so on.

    Now I am not denying that there is discrimination, just providing some food for thought.
     
  2. whikle

    whikle Well-Known Member

    I don't think white women have much to complain about...
     
  3. bonsaiiKITTEN

    bonsaiiKITTEN New Member

    First of all, as a tall, thin white woman, anyone black, white, or any shade in between who calls me "almost anorexic" is getting sprayed in the face with mace. Who are you to pass that kind of extreme judgment on someone of having a disorder because they're not the size you approve of? Do you think all women over a size 12 are compulsive overeaters? You're objectifying women worse than any regular man on the board who has any dim hope of waking up in the morning would ever dare.
     
  4. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Wow feeling sensative today huh guys
     
  5. bonsaiiKITTEN

    bonsaiiKITTEN New Member

    Not sensitive. Just woke up. Don't tell me anything on a day I intend to sleep in and be relaxing.

    However, I'm tired of sexists masquerading as enlightened individuals.
     
  6. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    Is it me, or is there a disconnect between the title of this thread and the content of the post?
     
  7. Espy

    Espy New Member

    It's not you.
     
  8. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    I'm going to infer that you are speaking of the misapplication of White privilege and the notion of the “pedestalized White woman”.

    "White people have hardships, are poor, and don't live in Shangri-La. Do Black men recognize this, and/or respect us as individuals?” Is this what you are trying to say?

    If so, then just qualify your question to find the answer; some Black men do and some Black men don't.

    Not to get all holier than Bill Cosby, but I wish more Black men would respect themselves in their words and actions. Those are the kind of Black men you ladies should be looking for.
     
  9. Tony Soprano

    Tony Soprano Moderator

    Rep added.:smt038:smt023:smt045
     
  10. Raul Sinclair

    Raul Sinclair New Member

    thought so also
     
  11. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    I think there is a thread of the title in what she wrote.. I just think she got side tracked.
    If she is, then I dont get what the color of the mans skin has to do with it at all:

    If she is refereing to the picture media relays of women in general (which happens to be mostly white), and if that diminishes the respect ww get from bm..... if that is what she is asking, then I say - if so, its not a matter of the color o fthe skin of the man, why would bm precieve it differently than wm?


    I have a hard time figuring out that she think is the issue.

    If she has problems with bikinis etc and if that is what makes the respect go down, well, then.... what is the answer? going back to the 1900 century bathing clothes??? Nah - men have seem women in bikinis for generations now. I dont think men are so stupid that they think all women desereve no respect just because there is a specific type of woman ususally "pushed" by the media.

    Or does she think the fact that the women on many magazines etc are skinny are directly related to lack of respect?? That is pretty much how I read it.... that I dont get at all, that doesnt even compute.
    That the models etc are so skinny IS an issue, but it has nothing to do with respect from men.

    Would ww get more respect from bm if they were thicker and didnt wear bikinis in the media??? huh????

    The part about the 3rd world; I didnt follow the rationale.


    I think you have a good topic for discussion in there somewhere MS, you just need to distill it a bit more.
    Is it really an issue about skincolor of the man or just a gender issue you are getting at?
     
  12. bonsaiiKITTEN

    bonsaiiKITTEN New Member

    I simply don't like the implications BM are more susceptible to media or that only WW are objectified (although the OP is too happy to objectify them).
     
  13. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    I'm confused too. I don't know how to respond to this. Oh well...
     
  14. missshyness

    missshyness Active Member

    Yes that is what I am trying to say, sorry I offended anyone, I am not always the best at articulation.
     
  15. missshyness

    missshyness Active Member

    Wow, I did not mean to stir up so much dust, I am new here, so I guess I need to be very careful about how I post, I am used to more academic forums, but this forum deals with alot of sensitive issues. I dont want to put anybody down, & I am not sexist, I think women should be able to wear what they please without harassment. And do I think we should all go back to the 1900's? no, that is ridiculous & extreme. Please do make extreme interpretations of my post.

    I think I would be better off just reading these threads, instead of starting new ones, I have never had such intense & negative response to my posts in a forum before. I dont want to be a troublemaker, & I am afraid of writing the wrong thing, so, just as my screen name is; missshyness, I guess I should just keep to myself, that's how I have always been in real life, & it it has helped me get along with people, these responses just confirm that is the best for me. I guess I am not the best communicator out there.

    Peace out
     
  16. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    academic forums...really...seriously:confused:
     
  17. missshyness

    missshyness Active Member

    Yes seriously, I have taken online classes, & part of their requirement are discussion boards where people put up posts, academic I mean, like math or history courses, unlike this board which is mostly social.

    from the now persona non grata
     
  18. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    You are not persona non grata....
    Your fits post came off a bit challenging and you picked a very sensitive topic as your first real post.

    There are a lot of people trolling this forum, a LOT.
    If you have been here as long as it looks, then you should have seent that.

    WE can be suspicious at times.. especially these past weeks that have been full of fake identities that dont want to do anything but stirr in the pot.

    Dont take this to heart if your intentions are real... time will tell and all will be allright.
    If your not, well, then, not...


    :)
     
  19. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    bonsai is the only who went at you, and if others do, so what? Say what you have to. Speak plainly and with intention, especially with serious topics like this one. No need to pussy foot around or be PC; for instance you can like or be attracted to Black men and still have an issue with some of them, trust me, there's another group of women who do.
     
  20. Espy

    Espy New Member

    :smt023 xoxo offers good advice as usual. I think your first post came across a bit confusing as what you posted didn't really gel well with the title of the thread. However I didn't take offense. I would always suggest people say what they like, how they like. If you intend to stick around, people will get a better feel for you over time, as you will get a better feel for them.
     

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