Equality of looks

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by TheChosenOne, Dec 15, 2005.

  1. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Well-Known Member

    I've noticed something for a while now and maybe you good people can either affirm or correct what I am seeing. It seems that when BW marry BM they tend to look for a man who is about the same but very often more attractive than themselves... but when WW marry WM they often will be seen with a man who is not quite her equal looks wise (often times he is far from it)........when WW and BW date/marry outside of their races the inverse is true. This certainly does not apply to all and may not apply to the majority but it seems like a trend. What do y'all think?
     
  2. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Uh, I'll have to get back to you on this.
     
  3. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    yeah i am not sure that is my observation though in the dating set, i see black women with fewer and fewer choices in black men and yet the BW grow more and more arrogant instead of more kind and loving as the logic would have it.

    catch more flies with honey than with vinegar
     
  4. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

    If you believe the racists then black men are only with the fat ugly women that white men don't want! Clearly that's not true though.
     
  5. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    its not true, but what is wrong with those women, they are still human beings with personalities, inner beauty, outer beauty for many of us, and Hey i think more white women of full size should come over to the rigt side and leave those superficial white men
     
  6. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

    I've noticed you saying quite a few negative things about the wm taste in beauty, and I must say that for the most part it's true. But that also further peddles the bullshit that bm only have wm rejects, which isn't true (inner beauty or otherwise).

    I remember some one here (possibly you) saying that it's no wonder ww are more prone to eating disorders, and that's so right. You can't pick up a woman's magazine without diet tips, mostly unhealthy crash "bikini diet" or "little black dress diet" - and who controls the media? WM.

    Women's looks are so fiercely critised, I'm so glad I'm not a celebrity. They can't go on a beach without some photographer snapping their cellulite, spare tyre or sagging arse etc...all with mocking headlines.
     
  7. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Well-Known Member

    I do remember that comment....I don't think I said that but I talked about how BM and LM have a broader definition of beauty than WM and AM. I agree, women should not obsess so much over weight because if a woman weighs lets say over 200lbs (90 kg +) and carries herself with confidence, she can find a suitable mate.....one of the articles that someone set up a link to on one of these forums said that "most fashion designers are gay so they tend to think of adolescent boys as the standard of beauty." I sort of agree...don't let magazines tell y'all what is beautiful....If that were the case I'd be killing myself trying to look like the men's health models (I work out but damn)

    I guess I'm late but congrats on your new baby IW :D
     
  8. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    i dont think the ww are anyones throw aways, but if they dont want them, we sure do.

    wm dont own ww anymore than bw own us bm. It is sad though that ww seem to want to please so many of the men who are in control of the majority wealth and power. I thought the feminist movement would have changed that but to my chagrin, white women in the US at least have become even more rabidly white men hungry. so are asian, latin and many black women today.

    very few white women overall, are interested in bm, and hardly no asian women are. bw only want what is peddled by the black establishment(a figment of their imagination) or the thugs already married to their drugs or their cell mate.

    when i talk about BM here, i am speaking of good black men with educations, jobs, careers, active lives, strong sense of self and their history, and religious men (these are the decent men that bw find so elusive)

    I am not bashing WM perse, I am intriqued mostly by the cult status of WM by AW, WW and LW. what do they do for you thats BM cant?
     
  9. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

    5 weeks late but it's always good anyway! Thank you
     
  10. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

    I can't speak for the US, but here a lot of ww are into black men. I've already posted a link to stats on UK IR dating - well over 50% of UK bm have a white partner, I think it's nearer 70% actually but I can't be sure.

    And as for what wm offer that bm can't, I really don't know. Maybe these women don't want the drama of IR and all it's hassle (if you let other people's opinions bother you that is). Or maybe some hang on to wm as technically they're top of the tree so they want that status too.

    It really pisses me off when women lack ambition and Independence, and instead rely on their husband's status to get them places. I was previously married to a man in the Royal Air Force and we lived on base. The women there all wore their husband's rank on their sleeves, thinking that they had superiority over the wives with lower ranking husbands, it was pathetic. There was even an unwritten hierarchy at coffee mornings and playgroups.
     
  11. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Well-Known Member

    with WW it's usually just pure attraction or the need to please her family by bringing home a WM. In the case of BW, LW, and AW it tends to relate more to status and trying to distance a little from their "minority" station in life....this is most true with AW and varies some with BW & LW........I think when it comes to women that BM are kind of like that souped up sports car (insert your favorite) that everyone wouldn't mind having but just can't find the cajones to purchase while WM are seen as the family sedan that is a more practical alternative.....not saying all WM are second fiddle to BM but I think a lot more LW, AW, and WW would date and wed BM if there was no stigma attached to it and BM weren't portrayed as inherently inferior in every aspect except the physical.

    Things will change but it will be gradual
     
  12. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    wow that is sad adn pathetic, i am a navy brat and lived on base and although my pop was an officer, i was never taught to look down on enlisted people.

    yes, i understand weak people are all over the place. i dated a girl from high barnet london a few years back and it was great but it was over here. is it very apparent over there, the IR couples? My cousin lives there now with his family. do you see alot where you are, or is it not that apparent in the countryside?
     
  13. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

    I moved house just over 2 weeks ago, I'm still in the same county, but nearer to the city (Norwich) walking distance actually. Norwich is a very white place, but when I do see bm they're almost always with other bm or a ww. When I go to London I see a lot of IR couples, but in South London it can be difficult - I've been racially abused as a ww in a mainly Asian (Pakistani) area.
     
  14. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    yeah that is a bad scene, but that is cool to know there are alot of IR couples to see. which part of london do you think is best for IRs
     
  15. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

    I don't know which part of London is best as I tend to mainly go to South and South West London (SW6 to be precise!). Don't really have any need to go elsewhere, apart from North London on the odd occasion.
     
  16. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    cool, i like the kensington area actually and also going to the new Tate
     
  17. PearlGirl

    PearlGirl New Member

    IMO... beyond all of the challenges of being in an IR, I really do think that a lot of the choices that ww make have to do with demographics! I mean, if you live in an area where 80% of the population is white... wouldn't it stand to reason that ww would marry within their race more often - if not only because those are the people that she's around more?

    In most of the Western world blacks are part of the minority, in terms of population, so, depending on where you live, pickin's can be kinda slim!!

    (Trust me... I know what I speak of!)
     
  18. LaydeezmanCris

    LaydeezmanCris New Member

    Wow, my mother is from South-West London, SW1 to be precise. You know the Earls Court area, am i right? She came here from there 27 years ago.
     
  19. LaydeezmanCris

    LaydeezmanCris New Member

    you make very valid points, Tucker. Like you, i find the myth that black men get the wm rejects as rather flimsy and pathetic. But if you ask me, its more of a statement made out of emotional blackmail. I dont mean to sound biased but IR dating is a phenomenon white men love to hate and black women hate to love. Thats all there is to it. But i find somewhat oppressive in itself that some ww are defying their instincts at the expense of their own happiness and to the satisfaction of the white man. I dont mean to be wm bashing as some might think, but its factual and not attacking. WW deeply adore the "intellectual" black male but are brought to stay away for socio-economical reasons that are created by the wm. Black women see the intellectual, law-abiding male like myself and the brothas on this site as just wimpy, uncool and sellouts. But it bothers me not. Black women have always seen me that way. Everywhere i go, black women are always unaccepting of me more than ww. When i hang with my latin and white friends who are girls, black women are always the first to comment. Recently, a black girl on my campus posted me a very offensive letter containing insults that deserve nothing a hard laugh. She was writing about how much she thinks i am a sellout who "sticks his dick into white and latina whores"-HONESTLY THAT WAS THE EXACT WORD SHE USED, NOT MINE. But i would tell you i read the note, laughed and tore it. She even went as far as to call my girlfriend a "hispanic harlot" which was the last straw. I saw her some time later and warned her never to refer to my woman in such derogatory terms or else she'd have a lot more to worry about.
    Attitudes like that dont bother me but they happen to bother the women i'm involved with. I always make it clear that they're the ones making a fool of themselves, not me. This, along with so many more reasons, are the reason im not into black women.
     
  20. Iffy'swifey

    Iffy'swifey New Member

    I think that post code may be Earls Court. I only stop at Earls Court tube station on my way to Chelsea for the football!
     

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