Fear, Jealousy and Attraction!

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by 7Seven, Mar 22, 2006.

  1. diamondlife

    diamondlife New Member

    I admit to being quite deliberate, at times, with what I say and how I move my body in order to influence a person I am with. However, I am not so bold to outline it as you have done, diamondlife.[/quote]





    Well of course lain rain, that is the nature of men and women. As a general rule, women are more subtle and covert and men are more overt and upfront. None the less, both approches are conscious behaviors and result oriented.
     
  2. 7Seven

    7Seven New Member

    Yes, I believe visual imagery works best as women have a strong sense of self concept and it can be intuitively influenced. Not surprising either, as women are usually oversocialised; passive conformists and opinion based off some other imagine -- like romance and passion. Two ideals that can be easily portrayed from a man who is seductive with words and sensual touches. But I only use my powers for good! :lol:
     
  3. Moskvichka

    Moskvichka New Member

    An Article on a Russian site: How to Seduce a Married Woman (And is it Worth It)

    http://www.afrodita.kiev.ua/cgi-bin/4prnt.cgi?p=122

    Probably a lot of men have looked at pretty women and discovered with sadness that they're married. Human society, since ancient times, doesn't advise men to hang around your neighbor's wife. Some think that seducing a married woman is the easiest thing ever. The only question is - why do you need it?

    Hey, some do! Otherwise there'd be no affairs. What moves a man who is seducing a married woman? Passion, love, opportunity to be with a woman which is free of responsibilities, desire to possess someone else's wife?

    Before deciding to seduce a married woman, think if you need it at all. Because it's very easy to seduce. Are you ready to maintain a secret affair, or you just want to have some fun a couple of times? Well, if the desire is strong, try - it's not hard. Everything depends on the woman herself. One will give it up very easily, another will require more time and effort - they say: "water wears away stone!"

    So, for starters remember four things you can't do.

    1. Don't mess with the family of a respectable, rich man with influence.
    Even though bankers and big-bellied businessmen have very quality and fresh wives. In the best case, you'll get a bad beating. So stay away from pretty dames in sables and silver Mercedeses. Even if they're the ones trying to hang themselves on your neck. They can be understood, they want some fun. But you... But if you're also from that circle, with money and connections, you can probably get away. But then, it's not likely you'd be interested. You can buy your own - younger and brighter. Right?

    2. Don't bother the happiness of newlyweds. Waste of time. There are exceptions, but they're rare. So, if you're not miserably in love - look for another married woman.

    3. Don't seduce a woman who is unhappy in her marriage, unless you want to marry her yourself. First of all, it's not interesting - too easy. Secondly, it's just cruel. She needs a husband rather than a lover.

    4. Don't get acquainted with the husband and especially don't drink with him. For the sake of your own safety.

    So, your goal is - a woman from a normal family, best of all with children. A woman can't get out of such a deep marsh, she feels warm and wet there, but also unbelievably bored! Especially if she's already really tired of her husband, and the babies are more or less grown and don't need Mom's time and efforts.

    This is the right time for you to appear. But not at her house. Her house is taboo period for you and your affair. You don't want her reputation to suffer. Try to meet your object on neutral terriroty. At the same time, start getting info about her - weather in the family, interests, passions, weaknesses and habits.

    You should act according to this information. If the husband has been neglecting the pretty doll for a while and seriously - overwhelm her with flowers, cards and wet kisses. If she's not satisfied intellectually - go with her to vernisages and exhibits. Try to choose places where you two are not likely to run into people who know her or you.

    Basically, act according to the situation giving her what she is missing. Be generous in giving your married beloved everything that her cold and shameless husband has been depriving her of all these years. And when your affair cools off just a bit, think for a second and try to remember: when was the last time to took your own wife out (if you have one)? Be careful: don't give your wife and lover the same presents, so that later you won't ask your wife where is her gold bracelet, which you gave her for Christmas. Also don't give presents which make you as the giver easy to figure out. Ideally, your lover will have the same first name as your wife. Many, oh many get burned on names.

    Better not to drag on an affair for longer than a year. Try to change places of meetings as often as possible, don't kiss in public places, use the subway and public transportation as rarely as possible - you'll be seen. But, you could be seen either way. The world is not without good people!

    Don't leave marks and traces of hot passion anywhere on your lover's body. Do you want her to get thrown out of her house? Then you'll be the one who will have to help her as the guilty party. Do you need extra problems?

    And, knowing these simple rules, think if you really want to do this.
     
  4. Moskvichka

    Moskvichka New Member

    By the way, in case anyone cares - I feel this much better lately! Life is good. :)
     
  5. 7Seven

    7Seven New Member

    Moskvichka,

    I am confused as to why you posted an article on how to seduce over a married women. What are you trying to prove: Are you advocating infidelity? Do you not believe in the power of marriage anymore? Are you waiting to be seduced over? Wouldn't it behoove you to abstain from encouraging this behaviour?
     
  6. lainarain

    lainarain New Member

    I thought it was quite interesting. (New information?...not really.)

    I had assumed she posted it to make women more aware that most mens' seduction is deliberate. Women who realize that a man's motive was premeditated, and not an act of uncontrollable passion, are less likely to risk their marriage. As you have stated, women fall to the feet of a man that shows her attention and affection. Would a woman do the same knowing the man chose her because of this weakness?
     
  7. Moskvichka

    Moskvichka New Member

    Uh... I posted it because it's funny and I wanted to make people smile. However on serious note, all the reasons that Lainarain stated, are true as well.
     
  8. Moskvichka

    Moskvichka New Member

    You're just getting nicer and nicer lately! I think I'm starting to like you again!
     
  9. 7Seven

    7Seven New Member

    I am not a very nice person, Moskvichka! Perhaps if women weren't so in love with the ideal of romance and passion, then they would lead much happier marriages.

    The problem with all relationships: they start off by deception; once the mask comes off and the man tires of creating an illusion "the relationship" goes to shit. Men tend to think of it as risk:reward and women tend to look at it as reward:reward, there is a huge discrepancy in the discourse of relationships.
     
  10. Moskvichka

    Moskvichka New Member

    What do you mean - risk:reward and reward:reward?
     
  11. 7Seven

    7Seven New Member

    "In Match Penny; Stock Theory, playin to win is a losing bet." -- Pete Kendall

    This quote is not intended for relationships, but it's paradoxical in the minds of men. You are not going to get this information out of women power clubs and movements.

    In Match Penny, two players turn up a coin at the same moment. If both coins are Heads or Tails, then player A wins; if different sides flip, player B wins. With complex set of equations the trick to playing Match Point is to 'avoid losing.'

    A real world example would be the after mentioned romance and passion. It exudes reward:reward. Two concepts for women and made by women with no regard to men. All women have to do is sit back and enjoy the show OR choose not to participate. But men have to play the game and men are not to expect too many romantic jesters out of women. We know there is no way around this, so, we create an illusion like love that will keep women interested in us romantically. It's a investment; stock; we inherently ALL have a market value and when that market value begins to supersede our resources, we seek to opt out emotionally. The idea behind risk:reward to correctly assessing the market value. If it's too high we try to opt out, if the risk is low we buy more stock.

    Men are scared shitless, it's fear, fear to put in a position of total weakness!
     
  12. diamondlife

    diamondlife New Member

    Thank you very much for that enlightening post 7Seven! Great analogy!
     
  13. Moskvichka

    Moskvichka New Member

    Well tell me this then Seven. You are bitter about unworthy wives... well, I'm sure I've bored everyone with my story, but anyway - I had a choice between two men.
    A: my husband who is a good man, loves me and is committed to me, but is so bad in bed :cry: I'm content in other areas, but not that one.
    B: my ex who is a sex god. He made my little body tremble just by caressing me, back when we were together. He told me he makes his partners come within seconds from the beginning of intercourse. I was like, daaaaaaaaaamn, how do you do that? He said, I know how to do my thing! And he told me he wants me and all these things, whoo! But then I asked him, would you want to be with me? He said we'd start dating, and see how things go. He said it's not an affair that he wants. Well... I couldn't stand the thought of him breaking my heart again.

    I don't think either choice would be WRONG. In fact, each one could be right - the question was, which choice would best fit who I am. I chose to hang on to my marriage, but deep inside I don't think myself a better person for it. Maybe it would have been better and more courageous to go the other way... I don't know. I do realize though that we make decisions that satisfy our needs, then paint them in pretty colors. It's just, different people have different needs... or are aware of different needs. We make choices, and only times proves whether they're right or wrong for us. Or maybe there is no such thing even, because people change... I don't know. I'm so tired.
     
  14. diamondlife

    diamondlife New Member

    No need to ask, he's a ..........
     
  15. 7Seven

    7Seven New Member

    Though I am not in attempts to patronize or make a spectacle out of your situation; but, a few theories come to mind when I read your post about your husband and should I say emotional lover.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangular_theory_of_love

    Husband -- Empty love: consists of the commitment component without intimacy or passion. Sometimes, a stronger love deteriorates into empty love, in which the commitment remains, but the intimacy and passion have died.........

    Emotional Lover -- Liking: includes only one of the love components - intimacy. In this case, liking is not used in a trivial sense. Sternberg says that this intimate liking characterizes true friendships, in which a person feels a bondedness, a warmth, and a closeness with another but not intense passion or long-term commitment.

    It's amazing what words can do, but I am not the type who gives advice for free and you shouldn't be taking advice from an anonymous source through the net. But what I can advise, is something I have learned through experience. I do however encourage that one should stimulate themselves and develop themselves to work out their own emancipation, for humans have the power to liberate themselves from all bondage through their own personal effort and intelligence. 'I', 'me', 'mine', 'my soul' are just various sensations that keep arising in the body whether one likes it or not. There is no control over them, no possession of them. They do not obey our wishes. Through experience, one understands that identifying oneself with these changing impersonal phenomena is nothing but suffering.
     
  16. Moskvichka

    Moskvichka New Member

    Thank you. I understand.
     
  17. INJERA70

    INJERA70 New Member

    Posts like this make me glad that I am not married,if dude was so bad in bved why did you marry him in the first place,not trying to knock you or anything,but did you marry dude because he was rich or did you need a green-card,Just seems suspect to me that you married a man who was bad in bed,What are you doing to spice things up.
     
  18. 7Seven

    7Seven New Member

    This is just how women THINK mate! It's natural; it's the grass is greener on the other side syndrome; it's selfish; it's greedy; it all boils down to individual choice, rationale kicks the bucket when dealing with feelings and emotions. The rational-cognitive part of a women's brain is underdeveloped; it's biological -- their emotions rule them. The only thing that I can say about this, is, DO NOT BE SURPRISED -- expect it! This begs the question. Why are YOU so surprised by her actions?
     
  19. Moskvichka

    Moskvichka New Member

    removed
     
  20. Kev

    Kev New Member

    Moskvichka,
    In the end we all have to live our own lives and all the rights and wrongs that come with it [And if that's being selfish... So be it].

    Some people will forever try to live for others.
    Be it in life or on the Internet.
     

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