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Discussion in 'Politics' started by karmacoma., Jan 27, 2009.

  1. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    :D

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  2. Tinkerbell

    Tinkerbell New Member

    Ahh, Karma, you have a right to boo all of us. It's OK, no offense taken. I still think your a smart guy, and pretty nice most of the time.:D
     
  3. Dex216

    Dex216 New Member

    You seriously failed karma.

    You picture me as some right-wing, Fox News, Sean Hannity, Limbaugh type who worships George W. Bush just because I question President Obama and I'm not on the left. It couldn't be further from the truth. I spoke out countless times against Bush's policies. There is next to nothing that he in office did that I supported even in the slightest. His rampant spending, his foreign adventurism, his disregard for the Bill or Rights and the Constitution is indefensible.

    I don't give two shits about Bush. I never voted for his ass and I'm glad I didn't

    But will you criticize Obama when shit doesn't go well, or will you do like the right-wingers did with Bush and spin everything that goes bad?
     
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2009
  4. scylla

    scylla New Member

    1: only an american would percieve Obama as "left".

    2: You have a very good point. It's not hard to be better then bush.. will people be able to see if Obama makes bad decitions [yeesh, spelling]? On the other hand, if they are, the risk is that USA will have a republican goverment again, and as the wind blows, someone like Palin will rule the country, hence everyone will get caught up in some sort of kafka style world war started on the basis on some saudi prince not having proper american family values and/or commenting on her constant hair style, and we will all die. Obama is the lesser evil.
     
  5. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    :mrgreen:
     
  6. Tinkerbell

    Tinkerbell New Member

    Yes, only an American should decide what they think of Obama!!

    That's where you are dead wrong, my friend, NO ONE rules a REPUBLICAN country. That's what it means to have a republic. WE THE PEOPLE!!!
     
  7. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Well-Known Member

    Y'all are only 1/2 right!

    Obama will be praised more than Bush ever was when he performs well and he will be criticized harsher than Bush when things don't go well...and the reason is that more is expected of him because of the perceived gifts he has relative to Bush's...people also know that success for Obama means success for the nation and perhaps the entire world...so when he does well...we will do well...which is needed now more than ever.

    Remember too that Bush barely (and I do mean barely) won his elections..especially compared to the mandate and overwhelming victory Obama had...a near impossibility in today's world most thought...no one felt Bush could do much because of the divisions but Obama has more of a green light which means most will expect him to accomplish whatever he sets out to do.
     
  8. scylla

    scylla New Member

    Ehm. But it's ok to call my a commie for being a social democrat. So you are allowed to call everything left of bush socialism and everything left of obama communism, and then i mean everything, as in the rest of the world... As in europe, africa, asia.. f*cking kumbaya, lets all hold hands and listen while the great americans (not counting the rest of the american continent though, just the ones in US, i mean, they are the real americans after all.) decides the semantics in a language that is spoken all over the world..



    Either get yourself some sort of political insight, and some high school level of understanding for the political concepts, or admit your complete ignorance in these matters. This is just silly.


    And on the short note on "no one rules a republican country", i'd add, yes, the multi-national companies do. And the rich people. Or well.. Religion.. Let's not forget that Christianity seem to set a lot of standards in the US.

    EDIT:
    Oh, wait, I'll do it for you:
    I'm a european bisexual communist with no right to speak about your country. You are a lovely upstanding citizen and everybody loves you. I'm horrible and I can't spell, since I'm inconsequently using lower/upper case letters in the beginning of names.. Here comes the part that isn't written out loud: I'm an atheist and deny god and I'm filthy for advocating sin as in pre-marital sex, and I will eventually burn in hell, and that is also one reason why you tolerate me and alikes, since when the rapture comes (we do live in the biblical end days after all.. 2012 anyone?) you will be beamed up to heaven and we will be slayed by the armies of the lord together with billions of other people who by your standard did it wrong. For example, by claiming that Obama isn't left wing.
    Oh, and don't forget to put in something about feminism and abortion. :D
     
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2009
  9. Arwen

    Arwen New Member

    I love you, my european fellovv, lol.
    He is on the left acually, yes, very. But not socialist, as they say. Bullshit.
     
  10. Arwen

    Arwen New Member

    Oh Scylla, I so love you novv.
    they say I'm a communist too just because I don't like Berlusconi. He is a dictator though ;)
     
  11. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    Conservatives in my country label and frame anyone who is open-minded,progressive,or anything they think is liberal,socialist,and communist. Europeans who don't think like them are a nightmare.
     
  12. scylla

    scylla New Member

    Hmm. I wonder where the Italian left is. If I compare it to the swedish political scale, he is amongst the folkparti, (peoples party of all stupid names), which is market liberal and about as far right you get but still in a ruling position (part of the right alliance ruling the country right now).
     
  13. Arwen

    Arwen New Member

    Italian left has gone to fuck herself lol. No nerves, no balls. Veltroni retired novv because of his failment. The only one vvho really makes opposition is Antonio Di Pietro. He is great.
    But hey, vvhoever makes opposition here, nobody's gonna knovv, since Berlusconi ovvns all the media. And vve r back to the dictatorship.
     
  14. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    Silvio will be a real Mussolini if the parties of the left in the Chamber of Deputies don't get their act together.
     

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