Identity Confusion: Am I white enough?

:lol: Very funny, but that wouldn't make me whiter.

I mean no offense to anyone, but I'm not very fond of red hair or skin the color of milk. Believe it or not I was a blonde for a little while. I think I looked like a porn star and it was so much trouble staying blonde. I prefer my dark hair.

 

spell: perhaps you asked the question wrongly. ask it again. I thought the title was"how white does one have to be".

What we mean by white here is the race of the person, not the how dark or light their skin is. Some guys like northern european types, others like southern european types. so that runs the gamut from very pale to sunkissed and brown skin

you brought in your race, which only makes you part white

 

since when did the arrival of the phenomenon "very white" arrive? :roll:

 

It's like the fact that 'less black' black men do better professionally - the whiter you are, the richer you'll be. Or something.

 

Huh? what is less black?. there is black and then there uh, um black?

nope thats what racist love to do, say there are different types of black(field negroes and house negroes), nope, we are all negroes

there is no more white or less white in it

 

you'd often hear that from the mouths of white racists. and i hate it when people use the term "black enough, "less black" or whatever. like a black girl in my college used to tell me that i dont act black, i act white just to fuck white women- AS SHE PUT IT. i was like, "whatever, lady". just because one thug is dressed in baggy jeans, speaks hip hop slangs and wears bling doesnt make him any more black than myself if im dressed formally. Its called etiquette and morals, thank you.

 

I should point out that I was being parodical and not serious. I'm not even sure that I like the term 'black', although it is on this website; let's face it, most 'black' people aren't even black! What does it mean? Can anyone shed light on this for me?

 

it was a term used by white europeans to describe the skin colour of africans when they saw the.

then in the 60s it was a term used by the afrocentrists as a power term, but due to the black on black violence and self hatred of the past 25 years, i dont think it has a whole heck of alot of power

I dont use it if I dont have to

 

Ladeezman: aint that a blip? i think if is actually funny when someone tries to say that I or someone else is not black enough. what is black enough? when the kkk came to lynch they didnt say, who is black enough, they were looking to lynch a negro and anyone would do.

black enough--is used by the politically correct police and so called black leadership to put other blacks down that they dont like(so for example--nowadays, the liberal black who gets his handouts and assignments from white liberals--jesse jackson says that colin powell is not "black enough" because he working as Republican) so he is trying to cut brotha powell down in the eyes of the white liberal man, so that he can get a pat on the head and scraps from the party table.

it used to be that black people took an affront at any white attacking blacks, but now they are used as agents of the white establishment to attak one another. before the 1960s majority of blacks voted Republican, and yet now anyone who doesnt tow the plantation line of the democratic party is not Black enough or is an uncle tom.

well I am plenty black, very dark, grew up in the south, been called Ni88er many times, have suffered racial discrimination and am also a rich, conservative Republican, but I am still black as the ace of spades and proud of it

 

do you mean that the people who claim to be black arent?

 

i think she lives in another country bro, here most black people are umm black in the US

 

thats was hilarious but factual.

Over the last few years, the liberal Democrat attacks on conservative blacks have increased in number and ferocity. While I'm not surprised by this or the liberal media silence over the casual use of normally taboo racial slurs directed at blacks, I'm left wondering, "Why do we bother?"

How many times does one have to keep referring to Larry Edler's indisputable article that said among other things, that:

- After the Civil War, 23 blacks (13 of them ex-slaves) were elected to Congress, all as Republicans.

- That the first black Democrat was not elected to Congress until 1935, from the state of Illinois.

- That the first black congressional Democrat from a Southern state was not elected until 1973.

- That Democrats in 1854 passed the Kansas-Nebraska Act that overturned the Missouri Compromise and allowed for the importation of slaves into the territories.

- Disgusted with the passage of this Act, free-soilers and anti-slavery members of the Whig and Democratic parties founded the Republican Party, not just to stop the spread of slavery, but to eventually abolish it.

- That on July 4, 1867 in Houston, 150 blacks and 20 whites formed not the Black Texas Republican Party, but the Texas Republican Party.

- That Blacks across Southern states also founded the Republican parties in their states.

- In 1850 Democrats passed the Fugitive Slave Law.

- Republican President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation during the Civil War.

- In 1865, the 13th Amendment emancipating the slaves was passed with 100 percent of Republicans voting for it and only 23 percent of Democrats voting for it.

- The 14th Amendment was passed giving the newly emancipated blacks full civil rights and federal guarantee of those rights, superseding any state laws. Every single voting Republican voted for the Amendment, no Democrat voted for it.

- Congress passed the 15th Amendment in 1870, guaranteeing blacks the right to vote. Every single Republican voted for it, with every Democrat voting against it.

- During 1872 congressional investigations, Democrats admitted beginning the Ku Klux Klan as an effort to stop the spread of the Republican Party and to re-establish Democratic control in Southern states. Blacks, who were all Republican at that time, were the primary targets of violence.

- Between 1870 and 1875, the Republican Congress passed many pro-black civil rights laws. But in 1876, Democrats took control of the House, and no further race-based civil rights laws passed until 1957. In 1892, Democrats gained control of the House, the Senate and the White House, and repealed all the Republican-passed civil rights laws. That enabled the Southern Democrats to pass the Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, literacy tests, and so on in their individual states.

- Only 64 percent of Democrats in Congress voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act, while 80 percent of Republicans voted for the Act.

There's that old expression about bringing the horse to water and trying to make it drink. Black conservatives have been spitting into the wind for years now trying to wake up the sleeping black electorate to the sins of those whom consider themselves the "Party of Civil Rights." We have attempted to point our brethren in the right direction (pardon the pun) and have been called sambos, Uncle Toms, lapdogs, and those slurs have yet to be repudiated by those in the mainstream media or academia.

Maybe we should consider some a lost cause and just move on. There are some who enjoy their victim status and use it as a way of blaming others for their own laziness. There are many black folk out there who have used the education system to their benefit and are now self-reliant. They don't depend on a check from the government every month, and are the true leaders in their communities.

There are those who live by blaming whites for their every misfortune, while they now have to live with the ramifications of their blowing off school earlier in life. They claim Affirmative Action will cure those ramifications.

All AA does is make every black person's qualifications suspect upon their first day at a new job, and discriminate against persons who may be more qualified purely because of the color of their skin. Liberal blacks call that payback. Just who is perpetuating discrimination and racism in America?

Those who believe rap music and sports are the only way out of a crime-ridden neighborhood can choose to live in that fool's paradise while condemning others who choose to study. The entertainment industry can celebrate so-called adversity, but many of our "hard-core" street personalities actually came from middle class backgrounds and made sound business decisions to get from Point A to Point B.

Those who wish to elevate themselves must make a choice. Personal responsibility is not a catch-phrase. It is a way of life that gives someone real control over their lives. Going to work isn't selling out. Not impregnating or being impregnated before age 14 isn't selling out. Teaching your kids that school and not the streets is the path to success isn't selling out.

Selling out is taking a dump on the very opportunities this country has to offer and making something out of your dream. Sitting on your ass and blaming whites for your failings and demanding a monetary payoff is a waste of time because it will never happen. There are too many successful blacks in this nation to disprove the widely held notion that racism is keeping us all down.

 

thats what I am talking about. the problem is blacks dont read and when they do, its a propoganda pamphlet by some nut job group on the corner.

we might as well not have a history in this country cause black folks dont follow it.

one reason for not being able to date a black woman is that i couldnt find one who actually thought for herself. they all act in "group think"

Senator Byrd is a former Klansman, still serving in the Senate and has never apologized for his membership and yet the black establishment is SILENT

the KKK was founded by the Democrats in Pulaski Tennessee by a pro slaver, Confederate--Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest

and the black folks--the masses, still in poverty, dying of aids at an astounding rate, still on the bottom of every statistic and yet still skinnin' and grinnin' for the same man who kept them in bondage.

I need to apologize to my asian brothas, cause looking at is in the black community I have to hang my head in shame

 

I know, why does the so called black community leaders take a dump on hardworking, decent black folk, while praising the shuckin and jivin, woman hating, N word using, black people degrading, drug using, poorly behaving thug culture? is it because they worship the capital and capitalism (money) that they are always railing against??


it is sad in the northern states to see the way older black people are treated, esp the mothers and grandmothers. It is sad that while they are always talking about southerners as backwards--we down south own more property and have more professionals than they do in most northern urban ghettoized areas.

and another thing that makes me go, hmmmmmmm, why are the ghettos in the so called liberal cities run almost exclusively by the democratic machine??---detroit, boston, new york, camden, trenton, Philly, indianapolis, chicago, DC

the worst stats in the most democratic of places

 

I mean that as a term in its literal sense, it is meaningless - my fella is one of the darkest black people I've ever seen and he is most definitely brown-skinned.

 

I'm personally tired of repeating the same study plans in American History that liberals in education have omitted purposefully. If you want the truth, look it up yourselves. With all that's readily available, if you choose to stay a Democrat, I content you are the sellout. You'd much rather hang with those who use blacks for political gain while offering nothing but empty promises in return and have done so for decades. If you think I'm wrong, go look up who took back that whole 40 acres and a mule thing. It wasn't a Republican.

 

Amen brother Amen, and yes the Republicans have their faults too--but not enough for the whole black race to sell themselves to the lowest bidder and live in the most pathetic circumstances of the last 2 centuries

 

I wouldn't consider myself any less black if all I saw was dark-skinned BM on here that look like they're straight outta Africa. No matter what the circumstances are, I'm always gonna be black. And as far as "black enough"? That's just a term used by people who consider a skin color to be living a certain way of life.

I could listen to nothing but rock music, try to bleach my skin like Michael Jackson, and date nothing but white women. Fact remains, I'm black...

 

This thread should receive an award for the 'most digressed.'

But, anyway,

Cris,

Your sources are quite accurate, but the Democrats were actually conservative and the Republicans were liberals back in the day, but the rift between the north and south reversed the roles in the way that they are now, with the Republicans being conservative, and now the Democrats being liberals, so the south has always been conservative, although more open-minded and tolerant than the north, and northerners on average.

But, let's not turn this thread into a blame fest, please.

Politics/Capitalism are the main cause of all these societal obscurities, and it still continues to be so today, according to what tuck posted.

And, what's wrong with being considered black? If I'm not white, or Asian, or something, then I'm black, especially if I have 'black features', like the hair, eyes, and other things.

 

That's cool. I still say that you're a hottie.