Jesse Williams' BET Speech did you catch it?

andreboba said:
Colorism has been and still is mainly a problem WITHIN the Black community.
Trying to equate this to White privilege, when NONE of these light skinned Black women have the option NOT to be Black, again, is nonsense.

Look at the top Black women on network TV.
But why do that, it would blow your light skinned privilege argument out of the water.

The Black community's preference for lighter skin overshadows anything being perpetrated by WHite supremacy and their take on colorism.


But you keep feeling sorry for yourself TDK imagining that a lighter skinned Black person has an easier time in the world than you do.:smt022
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Who's feeling sorry? I never once said anything about being dark skin holding me back in anyway. Now you're conflating talking about the problem as the same thing as internalizing it and that's dead wrong. It's called empathy, I don't have to personally experience something to understand its true and that it happens. I have experienced maybe two times in my life police oppression both incidents over a decade apart, I'm naive and myopic enough to believe just because it happened to me infrequently that it happens to other men of color at the same infrequency. I LISTEN to people, I hear what they have to say on the subject and that's where you are completely lacking. I never once said light skin privilege is the same as white privilege, I said the way you're reacting to the topic is exactly the same as white people who deny white privilege because they don't see how they or anyone else benefits from being white. I gave you four articles and you no doubt didn't read them. Colorism doesn't just stop with black people, Asians and Latinos deal with it too and it does effect other facets of American culture when dealing with white people. Again don't take my word for it do a simple ass google search it really isn't that hard. You just to dig in and say no way because you don't want to believe it.

And that top women in TV argument is exactly the same thing as telling me we have a black president so there's no more racism. Sounds weak as fuck right?
 
The Dark King said:
Who's feeling sorry? I never once said anything about being dark skin holding me back in anyway. Now you're conflating talking about the problem as the same thing as internalizing it and that's dead wrong. It's called empathy, I don't have to personally experience something to understand its true and that it happens. I have experienced maybe two times in my life police oppression both incidents over a decade apart, I'm naive and myopic enough to believe just because it happened to me infrequently that it happens to other men of color at the same infrequency. I LISTEN to people, I hear what they have to say on the subject and that's where you are completely lacking. I never once said light skin privilege is the same as white privilege, I said the way you're reacting to the topic is exactly the same as white people who deny white privilege because they don't see how they or anyone else benefits from being white. I gave you four articles and you no doubt didn't read them. Colorism doesn't just stop with black people, Asians and Latinos deal with it too and it does effect other facets of American culture when dealing with white people. Again don't take my word for it do a simple ass google search it really isn't that hard. You just to dig in and say no way because you don't want to believe it.

And that top women in TV argument is exactly the same thing as telling me we have a black president so there's no more racism. Sounds weak as fuck right?
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White driven colorism as it impacts Black folk usually only happens in entertainment business, which is why I mentioned the prevalence of dark skinned female leads on TV.


What you lack IMO is discernment, wherein if someone makes a compelling enough anecdotal or subjective argument that something exists and is a problem, then you accept that opinion without conditions and call it 'empathy' because you have no real life experience to fall back on.

That's why I call into question your OWN personal experiences one these issues, and through family and friends.

Colorism in Asian and Hispanic communities is just a preference for lighter skin in general. But outside of dating or the family unit, you almost never hear an Asian or Hispanic complained they were discriminated against in public because they were too dark.

Jesse Williams has talked less about any privilege he's had for being light skinned and more about the advantages he gained because other people had no idea he was Black.

That's a HUGE difference from colorism, or your made up term 'light skin privilege'.

Light skin privilege is bogus and not a real ting.
Light skin preference particularly among Black folk is real, but not so much among White people when dealing with Black people.

What Jesse Williams has is something different and erroneously labeling it 'light skin privilege' is the problem.

I don't know of many Black people who once they leave their crib are mistaken for WHITE.

We aren't Brasil or South Africa where we have a 2nd class of people after White folks made up of light skinned colored people who aren't considered White, but are better regarded than Blacks.

In fact if you talk to Black folk from Brasil, some of them are surprised so many light skinned African Americans identify as 'Black', because in Brasil they wouldn't be.
 
andreboba said:
White driven colorism as it impacts Black folk usually only happens in entertainment business, which is why I mentioned the prevalence of dark skinned female leads on TV.


What you lack IMO is discernment, wherein if someone makes a compelling enough anecdotal or subjective argument that something exists and is a problem, then you accept that opinion without conditions and call it 'empathy' because you have no real life experience to fall back on.

That's why I call into question your OWN personal experiences one these issues, and through family and friends.

Colorism in Asian and Hispanic communities is just a preference for lighter skin in general. But outside of dating or the family unit, you almost never hear an Asian or Hispanic complained they were discriminated against in public because they were too dark.

Jesse Williams has talked less about any privilege he's had for being light skinned and more about the advantages he gained because other people had no idea he was Black.

That's a HUGE difference from colorism, or your made up term 'light skin privilege'.

Light skin privilege is bogus and not a real ting.
Light skin preference particularly among Black folk is real, but not so much among White people when dealing with Black people.

What Jesse Williams has is something different and erroneously labeling it 'light skin privilege' is the problem.

I don't know of many Black people who once they leave their crib are mistaken for WHITE.

We aren't Brasil or South Africa where we have a 2nd class of people after White folks made up of light skinned colored people who aren't considered White, but are better regarded than Blacks.

In fact if you talk to Black folk from Brasil, some of them are surprised so many light skinned African Americans identify as 'Black', because in Brasil they wouldn't be.
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Again I LISTEN to the accounts of light skin people who talk about there experience, I don't assume that since it's not in my face it's not happening. It's not like it's a singular voice saying this like I said it takes no more than a simple google search to see that it is a very real thing for others. We may not see it as much living on the north east. It's like illegal immigration, it's not a huge thing here like it is in the south west but just because I don't see the INS raids doesn't mean its some exaggerated made up thing.
And the fact you think I made up the term light skin privilege greatly exposes your ignorance and unwillingness to actually read and learn.
You're usually intelligent on a lot of other topics such a shame.
 
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