McCain/Palin Ticket

I may be sorry I started this thread :lol: but I figure I'd start it anyway.

Now that McCain has chosen his running mate and it's a young female, will this change anyone's mind about voting/not voting for him? Or will it at least make you take a closer look at his campaign?

I'm not looking to start bashing the guy, but just thought this would make an interesting topic for conversation....

 

No, he made a courageous choice in picking a female candidate but the truth of the matter still comes down to the disastrous Republican policies that we have to dig ourselves out of. She is a member of that party, so I will not be voting for her ticket.

 

Co-sign.

 

Agreed.

It's thrown me for a loop a little bit. I didn't think the old man had it in him. But, I'm still all about Obama!

 

If I were a Republican, (which I am most definitely NOT), I would be less worried about the fact that she is a young female, and more worried about the fact that her political experience does not extend beyond the realm of being the govenor of Wasilla, AK, and the state of AK. I just talked to my parents, who still live in Anchorage, and sadly have not been converted to the liberal side yet, and even they are thinking... :smt017

 

Man, McCain was soo shook he picked a woman to steal Hillary's partisans away from Obama. Still, ain't no problems because the ones that would vote for McCain will not have voted for Obama anyways.

 

He made a poor choice. It is a bid to grab the rabid pro-woman vote. However, the type of women who would vote for Hils would not vote for her as she is
1. pro-gun
2. anti-choice'
3. ultra relgious.

I was surprised to hear my man give kudos to McCain for his congradulatory ad for Obama, I thought that was a ploy to to show that he is not a racist. I do respect McCain as a person, and don't believe him to be anymore racist than the average white man, however, it was a well thought out strategy, what else could he do? Obama made history last night plain and simple.

 

she looks like tina fey

but on a serious note I never heard of her until tonight.

I really think mccain gave it no thought. He probably said "f""k it I'm gonna choose a hot momma for VP that will get me to the white house.

 

I respect mccain as a politican but definitely not as a person. Cursing out your wife in public and dumping your first wife (who faithfully waited for you to return from war) because she was physically "changed" from a car accident is not the kind of man I respect or could vote for.

 

What about Obama who has had 1 term as a JR SENATOR, and has never initiated any type of major legislation in the senate?

If anything, she has MORE experience than Obama, as she has run a state, and he gets to defer to committees and be apart of a group.

Don't play the experience card, because you're just admitting Obama's lack of.

 

How can you say a two year governor has more experience than a man who has served 7 years in his state senate and 4 years in the U.S. senate?

 

McCain is taking the experience issue off of the table...and neutralizing Joe Biden's potential attacks on a McCain vice-presidential pick with Sarah Palin.

This is where Hillary will have to put her money where her mouth is. If she really has Obama's back...it will be up to her to be the attack dog..Biden will attack McCain and Obama will lay out his economic policy and mix it with some of that "soaring rhetoric."

I honestly can't see Palin being McCain's guard dog....Biden, Hillary and Obama (along with McCain) have been campaigning for 18 months (Biden did run for the Dem nomination). This is akin to a recreational weekend 5K runner talking to Roger Goodell and signing up to play in the NFL. She may have the ability but she won't be ready...and could get knocked out if Biden or Hillary throws a hard punch.



The fact is...Obama had much better VP choices than McCain. Obama could turn down Hillary Clinton and still find several other qualified people with ease. Clinton would have easily been McCain's top pick if she were in the GOP.

McCain was going to pick Lieberman which should tell you enough right there... McCain-Lieberman vs. Obama-Clinton would have been an ass kicking of epic proportions. McCain assumed Obama would pick Hillary but since he didn't...he felt he could make headway by picking an unknown with fewer credentials than Obama...whose resume makes hers look paltry by comparison.

McCain's weakest issue is the economy and he picked someone that can't really help him on that (Romney would have helped).



Here is the point: Obama wants this to be an issues election (as evidenced by his selection).

McCain has decided that he can't win on issues and policy (if he thought he could..he'd pick Romney or even Leiberman).

By picking Sarah Palin...he wants this to be a values, religion type election (similar to '04 and '00)...she doesn't help him win the middle and the independents...she only strengthens the base.

(Honestly...he should have picked Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas...a decent looking woman...but older and from the South...with lots of experience...Hillary with more experience and a southern accent...makes way more sense for McCain).

 

True, hutchinson would have been a good pick from the experience standpoint, but she would have had alot of drawbacks.

One, at 65 years of age, it would have made the GOP ticket look really old...in both senses of the word. Not a good look when the country is clamering for change.

Two, she is pro-choice.

Three, she is deep in the pockets of the oil companies and consistently votes against alternative fuels and energy...again, not a good look when gas is $4/gallon.

 

Exactly...

She motivates the GOP and brings in the conservative votes (pro choice is a problem but being tied to big-oil can't hurt the way the hard line conservatives think) the way Sarah Palin does except Hutchinson comes across as legit while Palin looks more like a novelty....and you won't have to worry about any surprises...no one knows how Palin will respond with the bright lights on and Hillary and Biden taking shots at her.

 

Scholars question Palin credentials

David Mark

John McCain was aiming to make history with his pick of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, and historians say he succeeded.

Presidential scholars say she appears to be the least experienced, least credentialed person to join a major-party ticket in the modern era.

So unconventional was McCain’s choice that it left students of the presidency literally “stunned,” in the words of Joel Goldstein, a St. Louis University law professor and scholar of the vice presidency. “Being governor of a small state for less than two years is not consistent with the normal criteria for determining who’s of presidential caliber,” said Goldstein.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/13001

Anyway.

 

Fox,talk show hosts,and others are spinning it like it was no tomorrow about Palin. The likes of her being more smarter and more experienced than Obama is a oxymoron. I doubt she ever stood up to Ted Stevens.

 

I agree

 

Fox News already had their hoe-card pulled a long time ago about their bullshit propaganda. I'm even surprised they're still on the air.

 

Jelly,

I did not know all that crap about McCain. If it is truem not doubting you just have to see for myself then that lowers my opinion of him a lot

 

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=006axc2aELE[/youtube]

You'd think she could've asked McCain, it would've looked much better on her.