My Most Honorable Pursuit!

There is a new day in Black activism. It includes killing negative hip hop, personal accountability, Black self-love, and the exposure of the damage of (missing in positive action) BM with non-Black women.

Thanks for letting me know you are waiting for Black civil rights leaders to call you out. If that's what it takes for you to understand how bad your abandonment is assisting in the continual racism, poverty and crime in the Black community, then thanks for letting me know. Black boys need BM as fathers and mentors to understand that they are the providers and the protectors of the race.

Tell me where the heck are the BM role models in the Black community--our kids are failing, the jails are filling, the hospitals are watching us die--I mean dang it only 50% of Black high school students didn't graduation from high school just this past June nationwide. The main BM that can help are running around with WW, thinking the ever-popular, "it doesn't matter" trick that keeps us distracted and forces the Black race from building the necessary foundation that keeps us from prospering as a race.

You know that I'm telling the truth that you don't want to hear.

But damn it somebody has to speak up on behalf of the Black race. Too many BM with resources are not using them for the betterment of their own people and it's becoming really embarassing to White people to see how easy it is to lead powerful and resourceful BM away from their racial responsibilities. It's rather weak, weaker than they could have ever imaged. The obvious weakness of BM to stand up for their own people is (respectfully) pathetic.

The really sad and ignorant thing is that most of these BM watched their own Black single mommas struggle without anyone to love, honor or cherish them, and it never occurred to BM to want to save another BW from that type of unhappy life. It's simply shameful!

Much love,

Pearl Jr.
www.BlackWomenNeedLoveToo.com

 

Pearl,

The solution is simple: Women need to make better mating decisions. Yes, it takes two to fertilize and evolve a cell. However, it is not a man which is capable of nurturing and growing life.

Women have the power to say "NO". Women have the power to select good role models for future families. Women have the power to affect great change in urban America.

It is not the fault of dead-beat men for the issues in inner cities. And there are great men who attempt to make great change, but are ridiculed, ignored, and chased away from trying to do positive things. I should know, because I've been there: As a young kid, teenager, and adult.

The reality is that you simply cannot help certain people, because their mentality about life and living is beyond repair.

Good people want to be nurtured, respected, and cared for. My father was rarely in my life. He abused my mother and drugs. My mother, through her own dysfunctional childhood, also made bad choices. I was semi-molested by family members as a child. I've lived through and seen it all. Yet, despite my experiences, I grew up an outstanding man, because I knew there was more to life. *I* made the *choice* to life the *right* way. *I* wanted to wait until marriage, before having sex. *I* wanted to one day create the *outstanding* family I never had.

And what do I have? Not a damn thing. At 27 years old, my attempts to create unity and honest love with women failed miserably -- and *they* were the ones to *choose me* for my good qualities. Unfortunately, as with my ex, she couldn't accept being held accountable for her actions. She's a very capable 23 year old woman, but haven't a clue about self-love, self-respect, commitment, compromise, and all of the great things which are necessary to build good families and strong households. I was not her joy in life. I didn't "push" her buttons.

So, your argument is moot. Good men are tired. They are waking up to reality: Today's woman is lost, selfish, and come packaged with far too many issues to bother with. This is highly prevalent in urban cities.

When you can deliver us good men, good women, then we'll do our part -- as we've always tried to do. However, understand that the buck stops here. We refuse to accept trash and left overs. It is not our duty to play "garbage man".

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: You're a schizophrenic!

 

She simply is repeating the same messages you'd find in Essence magazine.

 

What Civil Rights leaders? I haven't heard of a civil rights leader frowning on Interracial Relationships, especially since most of our black heroes have had relations with white women. Frederick Douglas had relations. So did Malcolm X. So did MLK. So did Huey Newton. These black men, and other who have dated white women, have done much more for the "black community" than those who don't.

I have heard that many civil rights leaders tend to ignore the problems with interracial couples, and I agree.

It is a farce to blame your problems on black men who date outside their race. You have not once properly substantiated your claim that we are ruining the black community. And as for black boys needing black fathers, that may be true...to an extent. Little black boys need fathers period, whether that father is black, white, or whatever. Your argument that "black men need to stop dating outside their race because black boys need black fathers" is not a logical one. That argument would be logical only under the conditions that the black man in question has already had a black male child by a black woman, that black men then leaves his black white and black son behind, and dates a white woman. The reason is that if the black man is dating and mating with white women, then he would not have a "black son" to begin with. Therefore, there would be no single black mothers. And let's assume that the child a black man has with a white woman is called "black" (since many people believe that a child with any black ancestry is black anyways). If that's the case, then it would be the responsibility of that black man to be with his white woman to raise his black son.

I still fail to see how the lack of black role models can be traced to black men dating white women. I do not see a relationship between the two problems period. Dating a white woman does not mean that you are not a black role model. I knows lots of good role models who are dating, or married to white women. Many of our most cherished black role models were with white women. And I know lots of good role models who are dating black women.

And why does a role model for black boys have to be black? Given the state of black culture, I would rather my kids to take Asians to be their role models. I've had to take role models from various races, and I do not regret doing that. If I hadn't done that, I would be in a much worse place right now.

No you are not. You have failed to substantiate any of your claims. You are repeating the same tired arguments that have been used for decades. And you have been shown to be wrong. In your post, you have fallen off of a slippery slope. Again, no one has established a link between black men dating outside their race and the dismal state of many black communities. You WANT to believe it, but there is no relationship. If black men stopped dating white women and dated only black women, do you actually believe that the problems in the black community would stop? Why is it that so many same race relationships between black women and black men are not good? I've seen a lot of black relationships. Even in the relationships in which the black man is married to the black women, the problems are still not fixed.

"Racial responsibility" sounds like a phrase from David Duke's speeches. It sounds like something that Prussian Blue (and their mother) would say. But anyways, my comments from before applies. So many people who actually helped in bettering the black community were dating outside their race. Ever hear of Russel Simmons (who was married to an Asian woman)? That one man has done more for the black community than anyone I have ever heard of who was dating black women. P Diddy has done a lot. And have you forgotten the civil rights heroes I've mentioned above, and other countless black men dating non-black women who gave to the black community. The reason why you are not a slave today was because of blacks who dated only other blacks, the whites who dated only other whites, and the blacks and whites who dated each other all worked for YOUR freedom. When you blame black men who date outside their race for abandoning black America, you not only speak an untruth. You spit on the large number of those who did a lot. It is an untruth that black men who date outside their race don't do anything for the black community.

Fortunately, I didn't grow up in a single parent home. Also, if there are not enough good black men for you, maybe you should try opening your pool to include non-black men. Non-black men can make good fathers to children birthed by black women. Tell the black women to stop waiting around for a black knight. They are only hurting themselves by doing so. Make them realize that waiting for the perfect black man is racist because they are leaving out white men who could become the husbands that you so wish for. A lot of white men like black women, but black women tend to be too racist to give them a chance. So don't blame us when WE decided to expand our horizons, and you refuse to expand yours.

 

All she ever does is repeat the same kind of psycho-babble that can be found and heard from dozens of other jealous, lonely, self-righteous, racist, narrow-minded, judgmental, and insecure black women, on the Internet, in those 'sista' magazines, and in hair salons of all places. Her correlation of Interracial Relations between black men and white women in America having an impact on the plight and current conditions of black America as a whole is severely lacking, and you already know that, madscientist, so don't waste any more time picking apart her silly little misguided and delusional rants anymore. It's not worth it, especially in your case, bro, since you did like it was child's play. :lol:

 

Excellent post madscientist!!! :smt023

 

Funny... my own personal experience tells me this...

Once upon a time there was a good young brutha growing up. He was going to school everyday, doing his best, trying to get the best grades possible. To some degree, a little bit like the old Stevie Wonder song:

a boy was born in hard time Mississippi,
surrounded by four walls that were not pretty
his parents give him love and affection
to keep strong moving in the right direction

In the mean time, sista's like this would not give the kid no rythym at all. Made fun of him bringing his books home from school, made fun of him getting excellent grades, made fun of the fact that he wasn't out runnin' the streets at night with all the others.

Eventually, adolescence arrives, they spend their time chasin after the various pampered athletes (who are on their way to nowheresville once the coach has "used" their skills and dumped 'em out on the street after their final year of high school). OR they might chase after the brutha that was "fuelin'" all the parties if ya feel me. In either case, the brutha's in question had no real virtues. They then "opened up their legs and found themselves pregnant... and eventually alone.

Where is THEIR responsibility in this? Is it now the little brotha's fault that he doe not ride to the rescue?

My man Madscientist makes some very good points. The thing you will probably find is that the "little brotha" DOES take up he fight to help improve the opportunities for the race. He just does not ride in to pick up all the trash that he did not make in the first place.

As the great leaders of yesterday made sacrifices, these types of sistas need to make some sacrifices. Make the best home that you can for these kids that THEY brought into the world. Quit being so concerned with their own BIG FUN and sacrifice for the kids. Raise a new generation of young black brutha's that are respectful and responsible. Present high expectations and help to BREAK THE CYCLE!

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To each his own and let him alone

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Draconus

 

Never Ever has there been ANY woman who . . .

Please stop spreading the ignorance.

NEVER EVER has there been any female that has created an offspring without the assistance of a male. As a matter of fact, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR A WOMAN TO CREATE A BABY BY HERSELF.

NEVER EVER EVER EVER IS A BABY THE RESULT OF JUST ONE PERSON'S ACTION!

Stop the madness in thinking we create our children ourselves. It's really the abandoning men who are the wrongdoer and have refused over and over and over and over again to also take responsibility for their offsprings.

I hear this from BM all the time who date WW. Where are you getting that stereotype that it's just the BW's fault. Think for yourself. This is not rocket science--just common sense. You are being put in a trick bag to hate women that look like your own Mommas and your daughters.

Man up! Every single woman that a man wants isn't going to want him back because of what the heck ever reason. Man up and work for the women you want, just like every other race of man does. Stop running and taking short cuts away from your responsibilities.

Everybody experiences REJECTION sometimes!

Pearl Jr.
www.BlackWomenNeedLoveToo.com

 

No one ever said that women have babies on their own so stop the disingenuous BS.
If you're not going to be real, what's the point?

Women MOST WOMEN can tell if a man is a good person and if she can't, she may need to spend more time with the guy before she has his baby. Unless she is raped, she has the finale say so.

If a guy has no job, little or no education, drug problems, a history of violence and 2 or 3 other women on the side... You have at least a clue as to what type of father and/or husband this person will be.

Anyway, this is all off the real issue with you.
You have no problem with telling black women to date outside of the race but you place the ills of black people at the feet of the few black men who date/mate with white women.
I have yet to hear or read anything from you that is more that one trite line after the next.

If you're not going to be real and talk about this thing, I'd ask that you don't waste my time.
Most people that look for answers to problems know that COMMUNICATION is the first step.
Anyone looking to shout one thing after the next without true dialog is either a con, a cult leader, a fool or all of the above.

The sad part is I thought you had something real to say and could bring something real to the table about the problems in most black communities but it's all weak.
What a joke......
Sad......

 

Re: Never Ever has there been ANY woman who . . .

I have to say, wow... this is, without a shadow of a doubt, the worst case of projection on earth.

 

Why don't you discuss these issues with the guys at blacktown.net? Maybe because they are too pro-black and too anti-white so your one and only argument ("You BM are to blame for my misery because you date WW") will not work over there?

http://blacktown.net/miss_thang_222.htm

 

Re: Never Ever has there been ANY woman who . . .

It takes two to tango. And keep in mind that many women don't even want fathers around, preferring to raise the child themselves. But my fight is not against them, and I don't care for that topic on this particular board. Maybe for another forum, but not this one.

But you are blaming black men dating outside their race for single motherhood. Like I said before, in order for us to take the blame for black single motherhood, we have to have already had children by black women. I am not guilty of that. I have no children by black women (nor by white women). Therefore, I can't be blamed for abandoning my black children and leaving them up to a single mother to raise. And I don't know many black men in IRs who do have children by black women. The vast majority of black children by black single mothers are not mixed (Mixed is, of course, a relative term. In this context, mixed means parents classified as two different races). The vast majority of these men who leave kids behind date other black women. And black men don't only do it to black women either as I've seen white single mothers with mixed babies.

I'm going to say this only once. You are attacking the wrong people. You are attacking black men who date white women for a problem that they, for the most part, are responsible for. The only people who are responsible for black single motherhood (not including black women who prefer to raise children by themselves) are those who actually have kids by them and leave them. And I very, very much doubt that these people are most of the people who date white women.

So, if the race I am attracted to the most is white women, then should I work for her? Don't assume that we are all dating white women because we have problems with black women. The reason I like white women is because they simply do it for me. I like the way they look, a lot. Not to say that I don't like black women, or would never date or marry one. But for some reason, mother nature made me attracted to white women more, and it's been that way since elementary school.

And yes, everyone does experience rejection. But there is a huge difference between rejecting someone who you don't like, and totally humiliating them, treating that person with anger and hatred. Simple rejection, I will just move on. Maybe if that person shows an interest in me later and I am still interested, I would date them. But I refuse to date anyone who humiliates me and treats me terribly. If they treat me that way, then I do not see how they can love and respect me. And that does for women of all races. I'm sorry, but a angry, bitchy women (again, of any race) does not deserve a nice man such as myself. Tell the bitchy ones to find men whose personality matches their own. I will get myself a nice woman, be she black, white, Asian, or other.

 

They would destroy her at blacktown.

 

Silver why did you remove that picture? It was perfect to illustrate the case we have here :roll:

Bring it back ! Bring it back !! :smt026

 

It's still there, if you refresh the window it will show up!

 

oh yeah........odd !

 

Where in that link do you see any writings of anyone being 'pro-black' and 'anti-white?' If anything, all I see is a bunch of criticism of black women in general, though the link does make a bunch of key points that I concur with.

 

Hmm interesting isn't the first line of her ignorant post about "personal accountabilty"?? Sooo I guess that excludes one thing, she can still blame BM for the plight of BW because BM date interracial, I guess personal accountability is only applied selective and when it is convenient. Idiot is all I can say.
I don't want to believe and have a hard time acknowledging this whole "BW drove me away and drove me to date WW" but when I read posts like this I can understand.

 

That's funny.

Trust me and I think you know this already.... Most black men that date outside of their race do so because they like women.
I have no problem with black women overall but no man likes a hateful woman for long, no matter her race.

I'm here NOT because of hate of myself or black women. Believe that. 8)