No Justice For Eric Garner an honest broker

Well give me a solemn honest answer. ..should we take all police out of black communities. ....can we rely on self policing. ..

 

Well, the question is what is the instruction given to the grand jury? What exactly where they instructed to indict on? All reports that I've seen state that the jury decided not to indict in the Garner case, but on exactly which charge? Premeditated murder? Wreckless somethingortheother?

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U already know the answer to that and many black families who've lost loved ones or have been terrorized by inner city gangs/dealers want more police and faster response times (remember the old idea that police respond slower to black calls than white ones)

What they also want is a better trained force that doesn't resort to brutality

It's that simple

Declaring that if people are upset with current policing, then the cops should just pull out and let them do it is bogus and you know it

 

it isnt a lack of training, its not like these thugs dont know procedure, they cover sh!t up to make it all go by the books, its corruption , racism, they are the hill billies that would be lynching people if it hadnt been outlawed. training isnt the answer , accountability is, and people who do this should be tried justly , not freed without indictment.

watch how quickly these cops remember procedure when the legal system stops letting them get away (literally) with murder

 

Don't ignore the history of racism in this country.

Things were definitely worse for Blacks in the antebellum South, during Reconstruction and under Jim Crow. There were parts of town, I'm talking commercial districts not just residential, that Black folk simply could not go.

There were no grand juries convened in the 1940s and '50s when a Black man ended up dead from an encounter with a PO.

I was often told as a child by my mother I would not have SURVIVED growing up when she did in Louisiana because I didn't have enough sense of my own place....and staying in it.:roll::smt076


If you tried dating a WW as a BM in the 1950s in NYC, her White ex-BF could get a few of his homies to follow you home, slit your neck in an alley and that would be it.
If you fought back and killed one of these punks in self-defense, odds are YOU are the one who'd be charged with 1st degree murder and given the death penalty.

Things were waaaaaaayyy worse in the past than they are now, which goes to show how rough life was back in the day as a Black person trying to find his way in an integrated(lol) America.

Law enforcement didn't overnight get this shitty reputation in the Black community. It's generational.

A LEGAL strip search on the street, NYC, circa 1970s


Ain't shit changed.

Things aren't perfect, but every Black person today lives in a country Black folk from a generation ago would think was a foreign planet.

In my neighborhood for instance which is culturally mixed, harassment usually tops off with another neighbor calling the county because Mr. Smith is letting his grass grow too high, or he parks too frequently in front of someone else's house.

But back in the day if you were Black you couldn't even buy a house here.
And a little further South if neighbors didn't want your Black ass around, it wasn't unusual for you and your family to leave town for a couple days and find your house burned down.


Police brutality and corruption is an ongoing problem that needs to be addressed,(I was talking to a friend the other day and we really got it why cops in the 1970s were called 'pigs by political activists), however Blacks today still have more opportunities for advancement and achievement than ever before.


That said, these thug cops better get their shit straight. or we could be seeing shit like how it goes down in Europe.

 

You sound like a lot of friends and while things are better I won't play grateful that no longer drown me they just slowly push the blade in inch by inch year after year.

 

i would not recommend this behaviour in general, hes actually committing an offence by disturbing the peace, under current law the officer would be within rights to arrest him and you know once the cameras are off he'll get his ass beat. that first officer looks like a cruel motherfucker if i ever saw one. only reason he aint in a chokehold already is because of all the white people around and the current political climate. fight smart people

 

Everything in life is relative.

I thought I was in a bad relationship once because my ex-GF and I were beginning to fight over stupid, insignificant shit.

Until a friend of mine told me an ex-GF of his slept with his brother, one of his coworkers, maxed out one of his credit cards, got pregnant by him and decided to keep the baby, AND gave him a venereal disease.:smt037

Things are bad now, but they were way worse even in the 1980s.

 

Now this is a quintessential example of things in life that are relative. ....your friend can be regarded as nothing less than a strong, patient, understanding man......good grief. ...

 

It's a mix of training issues and the nature of the police force itself. The poor pay generally (but not always) attracts a certain strata of society into the force in the first place. Plus, the departmental culture has a lot to do with it (i.e. professional vs. legal gang), as well as whether or not the political powers are willing to hold them accountable.

Wow, sorry for your friend, andreboba. That really sucks.

 

You do know federal agents aren't making much more (in some cases they make less), but many will agree that they are better trained and held to a higher standard in society than local pds

 

Good point. That speaks to the training and departmental culture as well. When you're enforcing federal statutes and the constitution I can imagine being held to a higher standard.

 

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Did you see the 6mnth old II can't breathe!" Walmart ad that was edited, after people complained?











to see the ad...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ercial-changed-offends-Garner-protesters.html

 

Walmart has class after all

 

Don't you think it's a bit extreme?
Its his ecstatic 'daughter'. Can people not differentiate?

What's next..no white UFC wrestler or cage fighters can use a choke hold on a black wrestler or fighter?

 

After these large-scale events, the society at large is often sensitive for a while. Remember how touchy people were about any mention of the World Trade Center after 9/11? Movies that featured bombing in the plot were delayed by 6months+ until things died down. "Freedom Fries", et al..

 

Haha I remember the smearing of anything with the word french in it

 

http://news.yahoo.com/blasio-says-giuliani-fundamentally-misunderstands-reality-race-182800899.html

Breaking news (yeah right)

 

I was a teenager in the 80's. Went to an all white high school. It was nothing to get called a nigger walking home. White boys would just drive by and yell nigger. Literally, close to every day.

But, to be honest, we got harrassed a lot. It rarely ever got violent. White boys were mostly all talk. No balls. No action. Cops would always pull you over and lie about the reason. But, they weren't militant. You could talk back to them in protest. They weren't going to kill you or beat you down. You were going to make it home safely unless you did something outrageous. And, even then, it was about restraining the threat not terminating it. What's going on now is more akin to what was happening in the 60's and 70's. What's going on now is a roll back of the basic human right to exist and our constitutional right to be judged fairly by our piers.

The 80's, at least where I grew up were nothing like this. This is some pre civil rights era mess, here.