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  1. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

    Life After A EMP Attack: No Power, No Food, No Transportation, No Internet

    Examining life in America after the use of Super Nuclear EMP attack, which is known as America’s “Achilles heel”, and currently under development by China

    Sept 19th, 2011 - Alexander Higgins


    Recently, I reported on just declassified military intelligence report that revealed China is in the middle of the development of a Super EMP Bomb for use in a future war against the United States.

    China is gearing up for war against the United States and their top weapon is a super electromagnetic pulse bomb that can blanket the U.S. and send America back to the dark ages in less than one second.

    Past reports from Chinese military websites and Asian newspapers have outlined a several attacks that China could launch to win a war against the more technologically and militarily advanced United States.
    These strategical attacks, as a MITRE research report reveals, are part of an arsenal known as shashoujian or the assassin’s mace.

    Military strategists have long predicted that the top attack in China’s assassin’s mace arsenal would be an Electromagnetic pulse bomb.

    As the Asia Times reports, an EMP strike launched from outer space would cripple the United States and “send it back into the dark ages” in a single strike.

    Now declassified defense intelligence reports reveal China is already building nuclear EMP super bombs, according to a two page Washington Times report.

    Today, The American Dream has published and excellent article that examines in detail the devastation that such an attack would have on the United States.

    Most Americans do not know this, but a single EMP attack could potentially wipe out most of the electronics in the United States and instantly send this nation back to the 1800s. If a nuclear bomb was exploded high enough in the atmosphere over the middle part of the country, the electromagnetic pulse would fry electronic devices from coast to coast.

    The damage would be millions of times worse than 9/11. Just imagine a world where nobody has power, most cars will not start, the Internet has been fried, the financial system is offline indefinitely, nobody can make any phone calls and virtually all commerce across the entire country is brought to a complete stop.

    A nation that does not know how to live without technology would be almost entirely stripped of it at that point. Yes, this could really happen. An EMP attack is America’s “Achilles heel”, and everyone around the world knows it. It is only a matter of time before someone uses an EMP weapon against us, and at this point we are pretty much completely unprepared.
    The sad thing is that we are spending hundreds of billions of dollars hunting down “terrorists” in caves on the other side of the globe and we have been told that because of “national security” it is necessary for our private areas to be touched before we are allowed to get on an airplane, but our government is doing essentially nothing to address what is perhaps our biggest security vulnerability.

    What would you and your neighbors do if the power went out and it did not ever come back on?

    What would you do if an EMP attack happened in the middle of the winter and you suddenly were not able to heat your home any longer?

    What would you do if all the electronics in your car got fried and you simply could not drive anywhere?

    What would you do if all the supermarkets in your area shut down because food could not be transported across the country anymore?

    What would you do if you were suddenly unable to call your family and friends for help?

    What would you do if you were suddenly unable to get the medicine that you needed?

    What would you do if your debit cards and credit cards simply did not work any longer and you could not get any of your money out of the bank?

    What would you do if all of these things happened all at once?

    A single EMP attack would be the worst disaster that the United States has ever seen by far.
    An electromagnetic pulse could potentially fry the vast majority of all the microchips in the United States. In an instant, nearly all of our electronic devices would be rendered useless.

    Yes, the federal government knows all about this. The following excerpt is from an April 2008 report by the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack….
    “The consequences of lack of food, heat (or air conditioning), water, waste disposal, medical, police, fire fighting support, and effective civil authority would threaten society itself.”

    Most of us have become completely and totally dependent on electricity and technology. Without it, most of us would be in huge trouble.
  2. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    The US is HELPING china develope this technology.
  3. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Talk about horseshit propoganda.
    1. An EMP works in short bursts and that would mean a nationwide network of cooperative strikes which would break down without communication especially after the first pulse went off.

    2. These kinds of "theories" work only if everyone involved can keep their mouth shut. Information is too wide spread and accessible to effectively pull this off. You'd also have to have an intelligence community completely ok with it happening. I mean everyone in it from every head guy in charge to the secretaries who transfer memos has to keep their mouth shut.
    People are frickin blabber mouths.
  4. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    blackbull, stick to posting pictures of 747 jumbos


    look on the bright side...so many of you lot are unfit that if a war ever breaks out, you won't have to worry about service. just stay home and watch the kids or eat a gun.
  5. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

    Iran: US Sanctions Will Have No Effect


    TEHRAN, Iran -- Iran's foreign ministry spokesman on Tuesday denounced Washington's new set of sanctions against Tehran, predicting the measures will have no effect and dismissing them as "propaganda and psychological warfare."

    The remarks by Ramin Mehmanparast were the first from Iran after the Obama administration announced the new measures on Monday in an effort to apply greater pressure to get Tehran to halt its suspected nuclear weapons program.

    The measures were coordinated with Britain and Canada and build on previous sanctions to target Iran's oil and petrochemical industries and companies involved in nuclear procurement or enrichment activity. The U.S. also declared Iran's banking system a center for money laundering – a stern warning to financial institutions around the world to think twice before doing business with Tehran.

    Shortly after the announcement, President Barack Obama said in a statement that "Iran has chosen the path of international isolation" and that "as long as Iran continues down this dangerous path, the United States will continue to find ways, both in concert with our partners and through our own actions to isolate and increase the pressure upon the Iranian regime."

    The latest sanctions follow a new report from the U.N. nuclear watchdog suggesting Iranian work toward the development of atomic weapons. Tehran denies pursuing a nuclear weapon program saying its nuclear activities have aimed at peaceful purposes like power generation.
    "The action that some Western countries, particularly United States and Britain is pursuing, will be without result," said Mehmanparast. He added that, like past sanctions, the new ones are "only attempts at propaganda and psychological warfare."

    "The sanctions reflect the enmity toward our nation and are to be condemned," said Mehmanparast. He said the measures will be ineffective as Iran's trade and economic ties with the United States and Britain were small anyway.
    Release of the International Atomic Energy Agency's report had sparked frenzied international diplomacy over how to halt the Iranian threat, including speculation in the U.S., Europe and Israel on the merits of military intervention.

    The United Nations has passed four rounds of global sanctions against Iran since 2006, but veto-holding nations Russia and China stand in the way of any further action. American officials have held back from blanketing all of Iran's fuel-related exports and its central bank with sanctions, for fear of spiking world oil prices and hampering the American economic recovery.

    Russia, China, India and other nations maintain larger-scale trade with Iran, whose energy exports have helped it shrug off serious harm from the U.N. sanctions and other penalties applied by individual countries or the European Union.
    Mehmanparast also denied reports that Iran had supplied former Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi with hundreds of special artillery shells for chemical weapons, which Libya kept secret for decades.
    "This is another allegation in the psychological war," said Mehmanparast.
  6. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

    China's First Aircraft Carrier Launches

    China's first aircraft carrier launches with pride amid regional tensions

    Sea trials of former Soviet craft underline China's naval ambitions and fuel concerns about growing military strength


    China's first aircraft carrier has embarked on sea trials, in a potent demonstration of the growing naval power that is creating pride at home – and concern elsewhere in the region.

    While China says it will only ever use naval power for defensive purposes, others say it is increasingly aggressive in pursuing its claims. Hours after the trials began, Taiwan pointedly unveiled its most advanced missile, hailing it as "an aircraft carrier killer".

    The refitting of the former Soviet vessel is part of China's broader naval modernisation programme – which includes heavy spending on submarines and the development of an anti-ship missile system – and comes amid growing competition with the US and India, and a string of maritime disputes with closer neighbours.

    "This is showing to the whole world that China's maritime mobility is expanding drastically. This is showing that China is in the process of acquiring capability to control the South China Sea as well as the East China Sea," Yoshihiko Yamada, a professor at Japan's Tokai University, told Reuters.

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  7. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

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  11. Mighty Quinn

    Mighty Quinn New Member

    I'm almost certain Iran is building the same thing. I remember hearing they tested a type of rocket where instead of reaching above the clouds it reached just short of them. Apparently that's the tell-tale sign they were testing EMP devices.
  12. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

    Hu Jintao Tells China Navy: Prepare For Warfare

    China's navy should speed up its development and prepare for warfare, President Hu Jintao has said.


    He told military personnel they should "make extended preparations for warfare".
    China is locked in territorial disputes with several other nations in the South China Sea. Political tension is also growing with the US, which is seeking to boost its presence in the region.
    After Mr Hu's comments, the US said China was entitled to defend itself.
    "Nobody's looking for a scrap here," said Pentagon spokesman Admiral John Kirby in quotes carried by the AFP news agency.
    "Certainly we wouldn't begrudge any other nation the opportunity to develop naval forces."
    Senior US and Chinese officials are currently holding talks on military issues.

    The one-day meeting takes place every year, with the stated aim of ensuring there are no misunderstandings between the two nations.
    'Sovereignty dispute'
    China has recently acquired its first aircraft carrier and has been vocal about its naval ambitions.
    But its military remains primarily a land-based force, and its naval capabilities are still dwarfed by the US.
    Mr Hu told a meeting of military officials that the navy should "accelerate its transformation and modernisation in a sturdy way, and make extended preparations for warfare in order to make greater contributions to safeguard national security".

    The word "warfare" was used in official media, but other translations used "military combat" and "military struggle".
    Analysts say Mr Hu's comments are unusually blunt, and are likely to be aimed at the US and Beijing's rivals in the South China Sea.
    Both the Philippines and Vietnam have repeatedly accused China of overt aggression in the region.
    They are among the nations claiming sovereignty over islands in the sea in the hope that there could be oil and gas deposits there.
    And US President Barack Obama announced last month that the US was boosting its presence in the region, and will base a full Marine task force in northern Australia.
    Analysts say the US move is a direct challenge to China's attempts to dominate the area, and is likely to bolster US allies in the South China Sea dispute.
  13. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

    Iran Might Sell Downed Drone To China for Reverse Engineering

    Lost U.S. Drone's Sensors Could Hold Vital Data


    A stealthy drone, alleged to be a American, unveiled by Iranian officials would be more valuable to U.S. adversaries for its onboard sensors than for its radar-evading capabilities, defense experts said Thursday.

    Another intriguing question, said John Pike, executive director of Global Security.org, is what the drone's mission in Iran would have been. The same model drone was reportedly used to spy on Osama bin Laden's compound before the raid that killed him in May. Drones can provide round-the-clock surveillance that satellites cannot.

    U.S. officials are concerned that Iran is developing nuclear weapons.
    "What can I learn from a drone?" Pike said. "The best day and time to bomb an office park if I was trying to kill people there. A drone is going to stake the place out."

    The Air Force released few details and no photos of the RQ-170 Sentinel, one of its most advanced unmanned spy planes. Iranian authorities on Thursday displayed what they claimed was the drone their forces brought down.

    The drone is alleged to have crashed last week in Iran. The NATO military command in Afghanistan has acknowledged it lost control of an unarmed, unmanned spy plane near Iran. A senior Pentagon official, who requested anonymity because he is not authorized to discuss intelligence matters, said the spy plane was on a mission for the CIA.

    The plane's shape and coatings allow it to evade radar detection. Russia and China are testing their own stealth planes, so the technology is known to them. The prize on this lost drone, said Peter Singer, director of the 21st Century Defense Initiative at the Brookings Institute, is the advanced radar and other sensors it can carry.

    The RQ-170 has carried the same radar that will be used in top U.S. fighter jets — the F-22 and the new F-35, Singer said. The Chinese are a generation behind in developing such capability, he said, and would be keenly interested in obtaining it.

    "This is the jewel for them," he said. The drone may also have carried an advanced sensor for monitoring nuclear sites, Singer said. "Bottom line, it's never easy to reverse-engineer anything, let alone something like a radar, but having a working or even damaged system in hand to study up-close makes it a heck of a lot easier to both defend against it in the future or build your own derivative," he said.

    It's unclear what would have survived in a crash, Pike said. The drone Iran unveiled didn't convince him that it was an RQ-170.
    "What they showed looked like a parade float," Pike said. "It's remarkably intact-looking for something that crashed."
  14. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

    China's New Aircraft Carrier Spotted At Sea By U.S. Satellite

    Satellite Gets Picture Of Chinese Aircraft Carrier

    By Dan Elliott-
    Associated Press
    Wednesday, December 14, 2011



    DENVER (AP) — A commercial U.S. satellite company said Wednesday it had captured a photo of China’s first aircraft carrier in the Yellow Sea off the Chinese coast.​

    The aircraft carrier has generated intense international interest because of what it might signal about China’s intentions as a military power. China has said the carrier is intended for research and training, which has led to speculation that it plans to build more.​

    DigitalGlobe Inc. said one of its satellites photographed the carrier on Dec. 8. A DigitalGlobe analyst found the image on Tuesday while searching through photos.​

    Stephen Wood, director of DigitalGlobe’s analysis center, said he’s confident the ship is the Chinese carrier because of the location and date of the photo. The carrier was on its second round of sea trials at the time.​

    A Pentagon spokesman didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.​

    DigitalGlobe, based in Colorado, sells satellite imagery and analysis to clients that include the U.S. military, emergency response agencies and private companies. DigitalGlobe has three orbiting satellites, and a fourth is under construction.​

    The former Soviet Union started building the carrier, which it called the Varyag but never finished it. When the Soviet Union collapsed, the carrier ended up in the hands of Ukraine, a former Soviet republic.​

    China bought the ship from Ukraine in 1998 and spent years refurbishing it. It had no engines, weaponry or navigation systems when China acquired it.​

    Beijing is believed to be years away from being able to launch and recover aircraft from it as part of a carrier battle group. ​
  15. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

    20,000 Revolt In China

    Inside Wukan: the Chinese village that fought back

    Something extraordinary has happened in the Chinese village of Wukan.

    By Malcolm Moore, Wukan
    8:30PM GMT 13 Dec 2011

    For the first time on record, the Chinese Communist party has lost all control, with the population of 20,000 in this southern fishing village now in open revolt.

    The last of Wukan’s dozen party officials fled on Monday after thousands of peopleblocked armed police from retaking the village, standing firm against tear gas and water cannons.

    Since then, the police have retreated to a roadblock, some three miles away, in order to prevent food and water from entering, and villagers from leaving. Wukan’s fishing fleet, its main source of income, has also been stopped from leaving harbour.

    The plan appears to be to lay siege to Wukan and choke a rebellion which began three months ago when an angry mob, incensed at having the village’s land sold off, rampaged through the streets and overturned cars.

    Although China suffers an estimated 180,000 “mass incidents” a year, it is unheard of for the Party to sound a retreat.

    But on Tuesday The Daily Telegraph managed to gain access through a tight security cordon and witnessed the new reality in this coastal village.
    Thousands of Wukan’s residents, incensed at the death of one of their leaders in police custody, gathered for a second day in front of a triple-roofed pagoda that serves as the village hall.

    For five hours they sat on long benches, chanting, punching the air in unison and working themselves into a fury.

    At the end of the day, a fifteen minute period of mourning for their fallen villager saw the crowd convulsed in sobs and wailing for revenge against the local government.

    “Return the body! Return our brother! Return our farmland! Wukan has been wronged! Blood debt must be paid! Where is justice?” the crowd screamed out.

    Wukan’s troubles began in September, when the villagers’ collective patience snapped at an attempt to take away their land and sell it to property developers.

    “Almost all of our land has been taken away from us since the 1990s but we were relaxed about it before because we made our money from fishing,” said Yang Semao, one of the village elders. “Now, with inflation rising, we realise we should grow more food and that the land has a high value.”

    Thousands of villagers stormed the local government offices, chasing out the party secretary who had governed Wukan for three decades. In response, riot police flooded the village, beating men, women and children indiscriminately, according to the villagers.

    In the aftermath, the local government tried to soothe the bruised villagers, asking them to appoint 13 of their own to mediate between the two sides – a move which was praised. But after anger bubbled over again local officials hatched another plan to bring the rebellious village back under control. Last Friday, at 11.45 in the morning, four minibuses without license plates drove into Wukan and a team of men in plain clothes seized five of the village’s 13 representatives from a roadside restaurant.

    A second attack came at 4am on Sunday morning, when a thousand armed police approached the entrance to the village.

    “We had a team of 20 people watching out, and they saw the police searchlights. We had blocked the road with fallen trees to buy us time,” said Chen Xidong, a 23 year old. “They banged the warning drum and the entire village ran to block the police.”

    After a tense two-hour standoff, during which the villagers were hit with tear gas and water cannons, the police retreated, instead setting up the ring of steel around Wukan that is in force today. The village’s only source of food, at present, are the baskets of rice, fruit and vegetables carried across the fields on the shoulder poles of friendly neighbours.

    Then, on Monday, came the news that Xue Jinbo, one of the snatched representatives, had died in police custody, at the age of 43, from a heart attack. His family believe he was murdered.

    “There were cuts and bruises on the corners of his mouth and on his forehead, and both his nostrils were full of blood,” said Xue Jianwan, his 21-year-old daughter. “His chest was grazed and his thumbs looked like they had been broken backwards. Both his knees were black,” she added. “They refused to release the body to us.”

    Mr Xue’s death has galvanised his supporters and brought the explosive situation in the village to the brink. “We are not sleeping. A hundred men are keeping watch. We do not know what the government’s next move will be, but we know we cannot trust them ever again,” said Mr Chen. “I think they will try to prolong the situation, to sweat us out.”

    From behind the roadblock, a propaganda war has broken out. Banners slung by the side of the main road to Wukan urge drivers to “Safeguard stability against anarchy – Support the government!” Nearby, someone has scrawled, simply: “Give us back our land.”

    The news of Wukan’s loss has been censored inside China. But a blue screen, which interrupts television programmes every few minutes inside the village, insists that the “incidents” are the work of a seditious minority, and have now been calmed. “It is all lies,” said Ms Xue.

    Her brother, meanwhile, said life had improved since the first officials were driven out three months ago. “We found we were better at administration. The old officials turned out not to have had any accounts in their office, so they must have been swindling us. And we have a nightwatch now, to keep the village safe. We have all bonded together,” said Xue Jiandi, 19.
    With enough food to keep going in the short-term and a pharmacy to tend to the sick, the leaders of Wukan are confident about their situation.

    But it is difficult to imagine that it will be long before the Communist Party returns, and there are still four villagers in police custody.
    “I have just been to see my 25-year-old son,” Shen Shaorong, the mother of Zhang Jianding, one of the four, said as she cried on her knees. “He has been beaten to a pulp and his clothes were ripped. Please tell the government in Beijing to help us before they kill us all,”
  16. Senna852

    Senna852 New Member

    hahahahaha! Brilliant!
  17. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

  18. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member


    as for China and our drone, it was only a matter of time. Nothing stays exclusive to one faction forever. The germans were leaps ahead of us in aviation during ww2, fielding jet fighters while we still relied on prop planes. low and behold, we began developing our own jet fighters, which eventually came into fruition during Korea to counter (guess what) russian jet fighters.

    War is a business now and people make money off them, plain and simple. The more on par different countries are with us, the increased likelihood of them getting out of pocket and causing some fights.
  19. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

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    China and Japan Agree To Use Less U.S. Dollars For Trade


    Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda and Chinese Premier Wen Jiabo met on Dec. 25. At the conclusion of the meeting, they announced the signing of an agreement whereby both countries will promote direct trading between the two countries denominated in the yen and yuan. Currently, according to Japan’s finance ministry, about 60 percent of transactions between the two countries are denominated in U.S. dollars.

    In addition, the Japanese government will also begin purchasing Chinese bonds in 2012. Increasing the use of the two nations’ currencies and elimination of the use of U.S. dollars is expected to reduce currency risks and trading costs between the two nations.

    China is Japan’s largest trading partner, amounting to about $340 billion in two-way transactions last year. The large volume of trade between the two countries makes this agreement more important than treaties that China has signed with many other nations to eliminate the U.S. dollar from bilateral trade.

    In Hong Kong’s offshore yuan market last week, the yuan appreciated 0.5 percent against the U.S. dollar. In 2011, China tripled the amount of yuan-denominated bonds that other central banks and foreign investors could purchase, a trend that is likely to continue under terms of this new agreement.

    So, what does this development have to do with the precious metals markets?

    A lot.

    First, this agreement will reduce international demand for U.S. dollars. The U.S. dollar reserves held by foreign central banks largely represent an interest-free loan to the U.S. government. As foreign demand for U.S. dollars declines, I don’t think the U.S. government will go in the direction of sharply cutting expenditures to keep from issuing more debt. Consequently, the result of this agreement will almost certainly result in the U.S. government monetizing new debt.

    In simple language, that means there will be a major inflation of the U.S. money supply starting in 2012. Further, the federal budget will be hit with sharply higher interest costs on the greater amount of debt.

    Right now, China has $3.2 trillion and Japan has $1.3 trillion of central bank foreign exchange reserves. These are the two largest hoards of foreign exchange held by any nation, with no one else coming anywhere close. The majority of these reserves are denominated in U.S. dollars. If, between them, Japan and China are able to unload hundreds of billions to trillions of U.S. dollars, the dollar will fall further in value.

    A lower value of the U.S. dollar will likely mean that U.S. consumer prices will rise faster than at any time in at least the past three decades.

    Thus far in 2011, the U.S. dollar has been perceived as a safe haven for those fleeing other currencies, especially the euro. Sure, demand has picked up for physical gold and silver as well, but not to the same extent as the U.S. dollar.

    In my opinion, the near elimination of the U.S. dollar for transactions between Japan and China will cripple the attractiveness of the dollar as a safe haven asset. Starting next year, a lot of the funds that would have gone into dollar-denominated paper assets in 2011 will instead be diverted to purchasing gold and silver.

    According to GFMS, one of the most respected analysts of precious metals markets, China’s government and private citizens will have absorbed more than 22 million ounces of gold in 2011. That is 30-35 percent of current worldwide gold mine production. It is also many millions of ounces more than in 2010. Under terms of this China-Japan agreement, you can just about guarantee that demand in 2012 will be much higher than it was in 2011.

    This agreement represents a huge financial blow to the U.S. government, to the U.S. economy and to the dollar. It may take months for the effects of it to impact the average citizen. You may have a little time to acquire more precious metals at today’s levels, which I consider to be a short-term bargain. How much time do you have? We’ll only know that answer after prices have jumped.

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