Reverse Racism

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by dduval, Jan 4, 2006.

  1. LaydeezmanCris

    LaydeezmanCris New Member

    Interracial romance has been a point of contention in America since the first English settlers established colonies in the seventeenth century. In 1664 Maryland banned interracial marriage due to questions over whether the offspring of a black slave and a white person would be considered a free person or property. In following years, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and South Carolina instituted antimiscegenation laws which banned interracial marriage. In 1691 Virginia outlawed interracial couples and labeled their children as “that abominable mixture and spurious issue.� When slavery was abolished by the Thirteenth Amendment in 1865, many southern states instituted what were known as the “Black Codes.� In addition to stripping freed slaves of most of their newly acquired rights, these codes continued the prohibition of marriage between whites and blacks. This was based on the commonly held notion that Africans, and Native Americans as well, were inferior races and interbreeding would pollute the white gene pool. When Congress tried to override the “Black Codes� by issuing a series of laws from 1866 to 1875, the Supreme Court declared most of the legislation void and upheld the southern states’ right to outlaw interracial marriage.

    Opponents of interracial dating contend that those who date or marry outside of their race are betraying their families and abandoning their cultural heritage. Many African Americans believe interracial marriage erodes the solidarity of the African American community. Author Lawrence Otis Graham feels that “interracial marriage undermines [African Americans’] ability to introduce our children to black role models who accept their racial identity with pride.� Graham also fears that biracial children will turn their backs on their black heritage when they discover that it is easier to live as a white person.

    Conservative whites oppose interracial marriage for a different reason. The rise in interracial births, combined with increased immigration, will make white people a minority by the middle of the twenty-first century. Some feel that this “browning of America� will lead to the eventual eradication of European-American culture. Syndicated columnist H. Millard believes that “we are seeing the death of the American and his replacement with a non-European type who now has enough mass in our society to pervert European-American ways.� Millard also contends that if the current trend in interracial relationships and births continues, the white race will eventually become extinct. According to Millard, “white people . . . are going to have to struggle mightily to survive the Neo- Melting Pot and avoid being part of the one-size-fits-all human model. Call it what it is: Genocide and extinction of the white genotype.�

    On the other hand, proponents of interracial relationships contend that interracial romance is a step toward eliminating racial hatred. According to Mitali Perkins, “Where exploitation and anger have separated the races in society, an interracial family called by God is a compelling example of the gospel of reconciliation.� Yvette Walker believes that “racism . . . will have to be bred out. We can’t make policies to change it. And certainly in an interracial relationship the children are raised in a climate of tolerance.� She and others contend that the rising incidence of interracial children will eventually lead to a society where race will no longer matter because everyone will blend into one race, the human race. More importantly, assert many supporters of interracial relationships, color should not matter when it comes to love. They echo Martin Luther King Jr.’s famous sentiment that people should be judged not “by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.�
     
  2. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    well, i guess my question was based on what I thought was an assumption that all professional black men were not wealthy or well to do before they grew up and thus only when they "became" successful were they having some pressure.

    see, this is because(and I understand that you are not originally from teh south) there has always been a successful upper middle and upper class black community of people in the south even before the end of slavery. The Ruckers, Fortens, Fontleroys, Shumperts, are just a few. In Atlanta there are many black men who didnt "become" successful, they were always--so there was no pressure per se.

    now, with the new professionals and nouveau riche--who came from working class families and poor families and were able to become successful through the affirmative action 60s no perhaps they have pressure to stay with their own social class and black community, but i dont think it pertains to the average upper middle and upper class black male

    i dont have any pressure from black women in my family or my community, only rude comments from lower class black women. the racist white men in the south were very viscious and caused many white women to acquisces to their demands, thus I wasnt able to find many to date down south.
     
  3. LaydeezmanCris

    LaydeezmanCris New Member

    i live in the South too, Florida to be exact, but as you well know, its not the deep south. However i have heard tons of stories from family members and close friends about how much pressure is inflicted upon bm/ww relationships. Personally, i dont follow any stigmas or let them bother me. If i did, i'd go crazy. I've ever only dated one black woman but i've dealt with so many like her who were equally of negative vibe. Everyday, i get to deal with black women and white men make stupid faces and pass disrespectful comments to me based on my choices. Black women always saw me as "uncool" and "too white" back then and never gave me a good time so why should i?

    The stereotype of the most eligible black men dating white women is as extinct to me as a dinosaur. I never was the one to follow it. I never really wanted to date a black woman anyway so there it goes. Quite frankly, i love people sharing their IR dating experiences with me and i love to encourage them not to give a rat's ass what the black woman/ white man thinks.
     
  4. jxsilicon9

    jxsilicon9 Active Member

    tuckerreed,you're from the the south? I was born in Texas and have been in the south most of my life. Except when I lived in California and Washington.
     
  5. jxsilicon9

    jxsilicon9 Active Member

    I live in Louisiana and these old white guys try to pass comments on me dating ww. But then they try and hit on my sister. I'm tired of ignorant hypocrites.
     
  6. LaydeezmanCris

    LaydeezmanCris New Member

    racist white men at their best!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    absolutely, silicon, I am a son of the south and proud of it. grew up in several born and raised throughout the South and Texas.
     
  8. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    ant-can you explain why first generation black carribean families are like that? I am 7 generation black middle/upper middle class, university educated and I never hear any of that from members of my family--the males are fewer but more accomplished and yet there is no negative talk about our nonblack mates
     
  9. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    I need to get your newsletter, Cris. Maybe I'll send you an e-mail.

    Also, the South has a massive population of blacks, and has been that way for many years, in fact, most black celebrities come from the south.

    And, don't get me started on hypocritical racist white men, especially since I lived with one before (an old fart) who would sneak black prostitutes into the house after midnight, and shoot needles with them in the bathroom, leaving the whole bathroom(from the sink to the tub) in a complete mess, and then would set off the smoke alarm every morning by burning something on the stove, and then called me a 'black motherfucker' when I confronted him about all this. Luckily for me, I got him evicted.
     
  10. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    yes, I know. here in philly the hatred against African immigrants by american blacks has become fever pitched. blacks are attacking africans for nothing except jealousy and envy. One african boy was savagely beaten just because he was a nice kid, studied hard, and dressed modestly not in ghetto black gear. African stores get attacked by blacks and I havent a clue why.

    I personally feel much more kindred spirits with africans and carribeans than i do with the masses of black americans, especially those in urban america and the north. I feel a bit more at home with black americans who live in the rural and suburban south
     
  11. jxsilicon9

    jxsilicon9 Active Member

    I didn't know black-americans and africans have had such a problem with each other. I'm so tired of these morons in the black community that keep destroying it. Then try and blame the white man for their problems. And why these morons fight eachother,racist whites gather more ammunition to try and justify their hatred against blacks.There is way too much of white people being called out for doing something against blacks. But not enough of blacks being called out who do the same damage.
     
  12. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    BINGO.....

    And, yes, Asians and Hispanics are like this as well, but also white people and Middle Easterners, like I mentioned in the 'Black men prefer easy women???' thread, but everyone is right on one thing. It's a hell of a lot worse for us than it is for other ethnic groups.
     
  13. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    But a Halle Berry can get boned on camera by a guy named Billy Bob and not a mumbling word from BW..

    Arsenio Hall couldn't even shake hands with a WW on his show without getting hatemail from them..but Oprah can drool and lick on every white guy on her show and not a word spoken..

    Hall said in an interview that Dianne Carrol is so racist against BM that she refused to let him and some other Black comics use her dressing room to change..but she let white male comediens use her facilities.

    SHE MADE THE BROTHERS CHANGE IN THE ALLEY..!!
     
  14. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    They wouldn't give you any problems if You were a successful BW with a WM..They would be all "you go girl.."

    Sisters give one another a free pass to date IR..a BW can date date David Duke and they wouldn't say shit to her about it..
     
  15. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    As usual, hetero is right about the double standards of black women and white men. What's worse is the fact that some black men and white women actually enforce these double standards, especially in HOLLYWOOD.
     
  16. jxsilicon9

    jxsilicon9 Active Member

    That does piss me off at times. They think they own bm or something. My sister goes with a wm and they could care less. Then when I'm in public with a ww they make all kinds of comments and do those stares. Like its any of their concern who I'm with.
     
  17. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Well-Known Member

    It's all about control fellas. Generally speaking...men are the more possessive group trying control the "supply" of their women while taking as many women from other groups as possible. Because so many of our brothers are incarcerated as well as having too much baggage to even take care of a woman...BW have assumed the role. They want a monopoly on BM and the freedom to date whomever they want. WW (but more recently AW) have been seen as the epitome of femininity while BM have been seen as the apex of masculinity (in recent times...but that has carried a lot of negative connotations...."great in bed" etc.) Its comes down to confidence. Many WM (not all) have an inferiority complex and feel most strongly about BM with their women because they feel that BM are the only group of men...that can connect to and satisfy their WW besides themselves. BW often feel inadequate when around WW (I'm not sure why though) and try to pass it off with a false bravado. Older BW don't seem to have this problem. Younger BW toy around with quality BM but give their all to BM who only want to use them. While they sleep....everyone else sees the value in a classy BM and those same BW who had their pick of the litter end up holding the leash for a runt. They subconsciously think that WW are more beautiful than they but if they let on....we might leave BW en masse. The only thing that holds most WW back is their family and friends.....if they are comfortable with IR than the WW will have no problems with BM......honestly guys...for any of you that has had a problem with IR...what was the root of it....I bet family and friends (could be wrong though). :smt066
     
  18. diamondlife

    diamondlife New Member

    You're damn skippy!!!If you take away the peer pressure factor, this website would cease to have purpose.
     
  19. jxsilicon9

    jxsilicon9 Active Member

    Well said, TheChosenOne. Are you a socioeconomic major?
     
  20. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Well-Known Member

    Economics and Finance...but I did take sociology last semester
     

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