Ron Paul to OPEN eyes !

Discussion in 'Politics' started by velkrum, May 18, 2011.

  1. velkrum

    velkrum Banned

    So, Ron Paul is running for pres and it seems that half if not most of the nation is pulling for him !

    One of the main reasons I'm a supporter of RP is his stance on people's ability to make their OWN choices on health and nutrition.

    2nd I love the fact that he wants to reduce or completely eliminate taxes.

    3rd He wants to use a monetary policy that is backed by tangible value !

    4th He wants small government...which will make ALL of us breathe a little easier.

    5th He wants to ban GMO and stupid regulations on food.

    6th He wants to end NAFTA and WTO ! which will encourage businesses to open high paying jobs in America.

    everything he stands for I agree with ! There has never been another candidate like him except for Kucinich.

    If he wins I think alot of people will be happy...even the people who don't support him will eventually come around to realizing...LIFE is better when the government doesn't control or regulate everything you do.


    Even if Ron Paul doesn't win...he is at least opening the eyes of people to things they never knew or cared about, such as the fed and how government spending is hurting us badly.
     
  2. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    No taxes? So corporate welfare will be intact but social programs will be cut. Oh brother
     
  3. TERRASTAR18

    TERRASTAR18 Well-Known Member

    good post.....exactly and they can dump all the toxic waste in rivers the water turns black.
     
  4. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Some people don't get what government is for. Corporations by definition are meant to get the most profit at all costs and by cost cost to the general public not them. They have and will never do anything in the public interest. They are perfectly ok with liberty for them and justice for none. They are fighting like hell to make this a serf system where social mobility is all but extinct.
     
  5. hntr18

    hntr18 Well-Known Member

    ron paul is a libertian fool,lol
     
  6. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    And they said "hope" and "change" were unrealistic.

    Fuck Ron Paul.
     
  7. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    no taxes....forget about roads, schools, forget about the FDA, forget about FEMA.....for get about Police, Firedepartments, the National Guard...

    ...who needs, libraries, transportation, EPA, Pulic Housing, Health Care research, Vetera's Benefits, Head Start, College for the low income, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security,

    ....forget all of that.

    People scream "small government" until the banks were making fictious products that also destroyed the country, then they asked "Where was the government"

    People scream "small government" until SUV's started rolling over and killing people then they asked "Where was the government"

    People scream "small government" until two planes hit the twin towers, then people asked "Where was the government"

    People scream "small government" until MSG was found to cause cancer than people asked "Where is the government"

    Ron Paul is a hack, and the only people that follow have are the ones who have ZERO clue. Next thing you will be telling is that we didn't walk on the moon.
     
  8. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Rep well deserved and added.
     
  9. TERRASTAR18

    TERRASTAR18 Well-Known Member

    exactly, ppl read a couple charles dickens books to see what the world would be without basic protections. the funny thing is, you only have freedom and progress when there are rules. without them the rich would get richer and everyone would be slaves.
     
  10. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    But everyone doesn't care because they all think one day they'll be rich too. They fail to understand that the only way there are rich people is if their are oppressed people. Period.
     
  11. TERRASTAR18

    TERRASTAR18 Well-Known Member

    man you speaking my language today....why you think anything for working ppl(healthcare,disability,unemployment benefits,etc) sparks so much debate, but renewing bush's tax cuts passed easily.
     
  12. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Because those dummies think that anything having to do with social programs unfairly distributes money to welfare which they believe is being monopolized by minorities. They think government is only around to be a crutch for minorities who refuse to pull themselves up by the bootstrap meanwhile corporations are polluting the air and the water, they are soaking up American consumership with heavy debts and outsourcing the fuck out of jobs to the third world for pennies on the dollar. So essentially they're all blinded by the "American Lie" at this point, where everyone gets a McMansion and a nice suv and everyone's kid becomes an athlete or popstar with minimal to no work because let's not forget every fucking snot bag is precious and talented whether they work hard or not. They won't get it until its too late. We're in a time warp going back when everyone who wasn't born into wealth black or white will be under the heel of the very wealthy and nothing will change without some type of revolt. The only problem now is that technology has made it possible for the few to keep the masses in check with very little cost to them. They have weapons that can microwave people, how can the masses possibly fight that. So they'll sit behind their high walls while they fuck the rest of us or until technology makes it possible for them live at current standard with far less manual labor. I'm a visionary my friend you heard it here first.
     
  13. velkrum

    velkrum Banned

    ALL of you seem to think PEOPLE are not smart enough to govern themselves. If someone is driving down the road and they see that it needs renovations, PEOPLE are suppose to rally together and speak to the city mayor and ask for a self imposed tax to fix the issue.

    People have gotten so lazy that they don't seem to think that THEY are the ones responsible for THEIR community. LAZY people expect the government to decide how to run their communities.

    People decide what they need and create a self imposed tax to fund these services.

    This EPA ? and this EPA ?

    As far as public housing goes, If Ron Paul wins, he will eliminate NAFTA and WTO..(guess you didn't read my 1st post..or you haven't researched what those policies entail) which would allow America to become a PRODUCTION based country rather than CONSUMER based. Countries that produce, have HIGH living standards. I'd rather live in a country where there will be an abundance of work and NO taxes rather than subsidized housing and welfare....but I guess some folks would prefer to sit around and have the government pay them for having babies and smoking weed.

    Speaking of veteran's benefits..here is what Obama is thinking about their benefits.

    Also if you were planning on retiring with money you worked for all your life...think again..federal pension in danger...soon private as well.

    Speaking of planes flying into buildings..remember the brave Americans that responded to the incident ? well..maybe you can tell me why Obama is allowing them to be treated like this Screened.

    Not exactly sure what your talking about or what your trying to say but under Ron Paul, if a bank uses predatory lending tactics and said bank fails, there would be NO federal bail out. Said bank would be left to fail for incompetent and immoral practices. Obama's bailout was the nail in the coffin. You are aware that the bailout money went to SUPPORTING the banks not the states..and as I stated previously, Ron Paul does not SUPPORT BAILOUTS PERIOD ! because he believes in a currency backed by gold.

    MURDER is against the law.

    You don't need a federal government to legitimize that. You just need LAW aka The constitution which can be exercised on a STATE level.

    If there was a small government..I'm pretty sure 2 planes would have NEVER flown into the twin towers to begin with.

    the government is MIA...even NOW as we speak..MSG is still considered safe....Now if Ron Paul were president MSG would be banned since he is also a huge advocate of ORGANIC and RAW food as well Natural cost effective medicine.
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2011
  14. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    And you seem to think people ARE smart enough to govern themselves. Is this some sort of joke. Are we talking about the same country. if someone is driving down the road the they see it needs renovation they are.......huh.....but you just said "no taxes"

    ...and you wait for people to do it. It simply won't get done. They will just drive around it. This country would literally fall part. This notion is silly man.

    ...........huh?

    waht??!!


    wait........what?

    huh?

    what?

    huh?

    really...what?

    seriously?

    Blue Laws, Jim Crow

    No only would they flown into the towers, no taxes we wouldn't have a response, as a matter of fact we'd be all speaking German or Japanese buy now.

    but wait...why would he ban it. How could he have such far reaching powers? Small government is not just about size but about influence. Ron Paul? I simply can't take you seriously.
     
  15. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    He is not going to win and he certainly isn't going to "open peoples eyes".
    But your posts were very entertaining. Its not even close to realistic.
     
  16. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Velkrum lives in this fantasy world thinking that Ron Paul's libertarianism will effectively make this country better. However, reality tells a different story in which Paul's libertarianism will only benefit corporations to royally fuck over the populace with an illusionary idea.

    Again, good in theory as in any pure ideology. But in practice, it's a failure.

     
  17. velkrum

    velkrum Banned

    I'd rather live in a world that leaves my decisions up to me ! Why does everyone want a government to run their life and tell them what to do ?

    hate to break it to ya but Corporations ALREADY are doing this people. They are so big they have influence over government. Our government is SO BIG that what ever rule they pass no matter how unfair or unconsititutional American citizens have no choice but to do as their told or suffer the consequences.

    WHY do NONE of you realize this ?? Why do none of you realize corporations are the reason the world economy is the way it is !!

    WHY do all of you WANT TO BE TOLD WHAT TO DO and how to live your lives..and why does Ymra not have any reading comprehension ?

    I don't expect to change any of your minds...I just don't know why your all in favor of being RULED like children.
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2011
  18. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    Yes, good on paper. just like Anarchy is - on paper - doesn't work - unless every single person takes 100% responsibility 100% of the time and even then, Im not sure it would work. Ergo: Will never happen. Ever.
     
  19. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    First it's the government and now it's the corporations, whom your "home-skillet" Rep. Paul strongly favors? You know? Through DE-regulation, which will graciously screw over the people time and time again? This is what your boy advocates through limited government. Why do you insist on contradicting yourself time and time again, knowingly that you're simply here to give us a major laugh? Do you realize that you come off as more of a bigger dumbass, not because of a difference of opinion, but the fact that you're speaking too hard out your ass based on paranoia?

    See, by your silly logic, what's the point in government. You speak as though they don't serve a purpose. We were never absolutely free, but we still have the right to express our thoughts. I've criticized the previous administration for being outright stupid and look? I'm still here speaking my mind like any American citizen. We have freedoms, but freedom isn't free, which is something you people have a hard time comprehending. Ignoring this fact and the fact that government is a necessity and some areas like legislative laws and what have you are here to remind people that we still have to make things better. Think Ron Paul knows that by his conviction with the flawed document called the Constitution? No. Do you know why?

    He's like a 10 year old living in a fantasy and can't accept the fact that he's still free to exercise much of his opinion. The same applied to you. We're adults living in a country that's free and we can express our opinions regardless. The programs through the government like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc...all of which those who scream "government is evil" have NO problem taking advantage of, especially corporate welfare recipients in which Rep. Paul, Teabaggers, and moronic libertarians take advantage of. Seriously, you're better off calling yourself an anarchist and read into Noam Chomsky's books. That way, we can take you more seriously.

    Exactly. People generally cannot govern themselves and the majority of the populace are incapable of being rational adults and act on their own. Noam Chomsky is a brilliant man who advocates such an ideology, but the only people who can pull that off are the less than 10% of the population who lack any substance of delusion or paranoia.

     
  20. FG

    FG Well-Known Member


    Yep - especially in countries that are deeply rooted in Individualism.
    Even cultures that are more conformist could not make this work. fat chance, its not rooted in reality. I wonder if Ron Paul believe in Unicorns also?
     

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