Sen. Barack Obama Enters White House Race

http://today.reuters.com/news/artic...ml&src=011607_1242_TOPSTORY_obamas_first_step

The Kid Rasta 8)

 

I was hoping he'd wait and acquire more experience before tossing his hat into the ring. If he ends up only syphoning much needed votes from a more viable candidate...I can see him going down as a mere spoiler who may never hope for another run. People love to build them up...only to tear them down and this concerns me re Obama.

 

The right wing morons began spreading lies saying that Sen. Obama had attended madrasa in Indonisia when he was little, I just watched CNN program where a team from that network went to the very school Obama was once a student it was a public school where male and female students were mixed and teachers wore western cloths ......

 

As usual the right wing nuts have begun their conspiracy against Obama. They've started all sorts of nonsense in order to ruin his name but they shall not be successful. Although i must say that if the Dems really want the Oval Office back in 2008, Obama is not the person to get it for them. Not because he ain't qualified (Jimmy Carter and JFK had little experience before they became presidents), but because he is not going to win; simple. If he gets the nomination, the Dems can start by Aug 08 to kiss goodbye to at last 170 electoral votes - Southern electoral votes. Even though half of all black folks are based in the South, their votes always get overriden by those of ultra-conservative, fundamentalist, racist, right-wing Republicans. This has been a free ticket to the White House for every Republican president since Nixon and that is not about to change anytime soon. All they need to do is gather 100 more electoral votes (since a President needs 270) and they'd do so in the Midwest, especially in states like Indiana, Illinois, Oklahoma, Missouri etc.

If the Dems don't want another 4 (maybe 8) years of Republican fascism, Edwards should get the nomination and not Hilary or Obama.

 

:idea: I agree though maybe not for the same reasons. The US is NOT yet ready for a black president yet plus he lacks experience in the senate. I like Hillary but I don't think she'll beat a John McCain/NAZI :shock: Rudy ticket because of the backlash that she'll get IF she wins the nomination :!: But I guess we'll see.

 

The Hillary and Obama Roadshow

By Earl Ofari Hutchinson

Last December, presumptive Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama slipped into presumptive presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s Manhattan turf to schmooze with the Democratic Party’s liberal and left money shot callers. Obama didn’t tell Hillary he was there. But then why would he? Both of them think that they might have to duke it out with each other to get the Democratic Party bid for the White House in 2008. Obama has taken the first step and set up his exploratory committee, and that almost certainly will force Clinton’s hand.

But talk about their presidential top spot will and should stay just that, talk. First let’s take Obama. Even he recognizes that much of the talk about his candidacy is more media talk than voter talk, and he said as much in his statement announcing his committee. But media inflated hype is hype because there’s not much else to report, or news rooms are simply looking to titillate the public with celebrity doings.

If Obama is judged on his record, there won’t be much to go on. Apart from a stem winding speech at the Democratic National convention in 2004 that created the first buzz, we’d be hard pressed to name any meaningful piece of legislation he’s ram through the Senate, any break new ground foreign policy statement he’s uttered, or point to any particular diplomatic coup he’s scored with a foreign leader. The brutal truth is that Obama is too new on the political scene, too untested, too politically nice, too liberal, and most of all he’s an African-American. That’s simply too many strikes for anyone to seriously think he has a real shot.

If the Democrats in a moment of delirium shoved Obama to the head of their presidential heap, they can kiss off 170 electoral votes before the first ballot is cast. That’s the number of electoral votes in the South and the Border states. That turf is still mostly white, conservative, male, pro war, anti-big government, vehemently opposed to any political tilt to minorities, and is heavily influenced by ultra conservative Bible Belt fundamentalism. That has been the bread and butter ticket to the White House for GOP presidents Nixon, Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. It will be the same for a GOP centrist-conservative again in 2008.

There’s even grave doubt that Obama can bag the majority of black votes. In polls and surveys, blacks have been lukewarm at best toward him. Again, he’s just too new on the scene, too foreign sounding and looking for many of them. They suspect that he’s a flash in the pan and will wilt under pressure.

As for Hillary, unlike Obama, she has phenomenal national name recognition. She can raise tons of money. She’s morphed into a stateswoman like, seasoned centrist politician. She’s the consummate party insider. But she’s still, well Hillary, and to top cat Republicans licking their wounds over their midterm debacle, she’s still their made-in-heaven balm. Hillary is a living, breathing wedge issue. Like Obama, the Democrats can also kiss the South and the Border States goodbye with her at the top of their ticket.

The talk about an Obama and Hillary showdown, or even more preposterous an Obama and Hillary ticket (not sure in which order) has captured the imagination of some who think, as Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice recently mused, that America is ready to elect a black president. Others, and that includes Hillary for one, think that America is ready to elect a woman president. This is more delusion. Of course, when pollsters ask voters about the importance of gender and race when they vote for president, anybody that doesn’t wear a white sheet or sport a Nazi swastika tattoo will swear that they don’t vote color or sex. After all who wants to come off looking and sounding like a bigot these days. Yet even at the risk of the gender bigotry tag, far more voters in a 2005 CNN poll said they were “more likely” to cast a vote against Hillary than for her.

In any case, it’s a far different story when voters in large swaths of America step into the privacy of the booth. Color and gender still count, and count big for many.

The Democrats are convinced that they are within striking distance of snatching the White House, and that Hillary and Obama are the best, or at least the best known politicians, and their brightest stars for now. But a shining star looks pretty in the sky. But in earthly voting booths it’s a far different matter. If either one or the other, or even more disastrously for the Democrats, both together, are the presidential top cats, their shine will tarnish fast. No, Hillary and Obama are good to get the tongues wagging, but that’s about all.

 

Although it sounds crazy, I believe that as soon as we find out who is running for Presidency, the President based on votes that we [the average citizen] can't participate in.

I don't believe that President Bush was put into office based on the fact that he got more votes. It's much much more deeper than that. I wonder which Skull & B. member will take the office next?

 

Funny how they had to "recount" so many times to make sure they got those votes just right. :wink:

 

Sweet dreams, sleep tight.

 

First of all, the Dems don't need the South to win the White House...but they do need just about every other part of the country -- which is obtainable.

As far as experience: Bill Clinton was gov. of a little backwater state -- Arkansas -- b4 he became pres. So, the experience issue is irrelevent for Barack Obama. If he gets elected in '08...he will have had 4 yrs. in the Senate.

BTW, Barack Obama has just got some major backing in Hollywood from the 'Dreamworks' studio trio -- Spielberg, Geffen & Katzenberg. Also, billionaire George Soros is backing Obama.

The Kid Rasta 8)

 

Hey, Kid is onto something here. And to be very honest, most of Hollywood, at least as of now, are not supporting Hilary for one reason; she supported the war in Iraq and of my head right now, i can name at least 15 Hollywood who, from the very beginning, were against the war. Secondly, she's being moving far towards the center-right and that's the last thing to do if you want support from Hollywood stars. And many would not admit this but believe me you, Hollywood stars have a massive influence on voters, especially young'uns. In 1992, when celebrities and MTV teamed up for the "Rock the Vote" campaign, Clinton/Gore received an astounding 75% of the young vote. In 1996, Clinton/Gore received about 10 per cent less or so. I am not sure about 2000 but in 2004, Kerry/Edwards received 60% of the young vote; all through celebrity fundraising, campaigning and funding. Why do you think shivers go through the spines of the right wing whenever Hollywood stars show up at a Democrat's fundraising event? Because whenever the support the candidate, he tends to win. It happened in 1992 and 1996. Bush stole 2000 and 2004 so you might as well count that too.

Right now, Obama has been backed by George Clooney, Ben Affleck, Jennifer Garner, Oprah Winfrey, Barbara Streisand, Barbara Walters, Will Smith, Kristen Chenoweth, Matt Damon, Emilio Estevez, Sharon Stone, David Latterman and George Soros. These are, in the words of Bill O'Reilly, "far left ideologues" and believe me, they've got the money and influence to get Obama very far. Not very many of these people are going to support Hilary and i feel Obama's chances might be hurt if he runs as Hilary's mate for Vice President. So, for that reason, i think an Edwards/Obama candidacy just might be the right choice for the donkeys. Of course, it's a tad bit too early but the elections are in 2008; this is 2007. In a Southern drawl, "It ain't that far no mo' ". :lol:

 

Wow so Lexington is Antistar, I am glad you are here Anti

 

Lex, are you dating Anti-star?

 

Are you kidding? :lol: Aren't you familiar with his track record?

 

Kid,do you have a e-mail addy where I can contact you? It does not had to your main one, just the one when me and others can ask you questions etc. Hope you can set one up.

 

I am really psyched about Obama's candidacy, he is descended from a white mother and a black father

We here at whitewomenblackmen.com are his natural voting constituency!

 

I read in one of the british newspapers that his dad was a player. He also dated another WW.