The Loving Story

No offense to the couple but I always saw them as the IR version of Rosa Parks. Why is that a bad thing? It isn't per se but my point is that Ms Parks was not the first black person to refuse to give up her seat on a segregated bus in the South. Many others did so before her and most of them were males (including Jackie Robinson). For the most part they though were not handled as gently by the police from what I've heard. Other women surely did this as well but didn't get any publicity. Parks though was arguably the right person at the right time. First of alll this happened not too long after the Emmit Till funeral and people (including Parks) were so fed up they wanted to do something, anything. Next MLK had come to town and though young he would prove to be the perfect leader for a boycott. Next Parks was a woman so the community knew it would be smart to rally around her because the press and white people would be more sympatheic to this happening to a black woman than it would be to a black man. Last of all she was considered to be, by black people's standards, middle class, she was educated, she and her family had a reputation as beng "honorable Negroes" and she was light skinned. Yes, all those factors made a difference. (Now that I think about it one could say that Rosa Parks was similiar to Jackie Robinson in another way because he wasn't the first black player good enough to play in the big leagues...but he came from the right background at the right time and he had the type of grooming that his contemporaries lacked).

The Lovings didn't have all those factors going for it but they had two advantages:

1)it was a wm/bw pairing. If it had been a black man and a white woman there would have been less sympathy for them and more grief. Their lives may have been in a lot more danger too. And trust me if a bm/wm pairing had been the ones to break down that law/barrier it would not be celebrated nearly as much as the Lovings.

2)Ms. Loving was a beauty. Male bigots of all stripes love to make exceptions when the woman of a different race who is hooked up with one of their own is a good-looking gal. Why would white men be any different? In fact white men may be the leading advocates of this way of thinking.

I'm not trying to take shots at the Lovings because they had nothing to do with how they were viewed. But I simply can't get myself too excited over their story because it is just another example of the double standard that has existed in the USA for an eternity.
 
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JamalSpunky said:
No offense to the couple but I always saw them as the IR version of Rosa Parks. Why is that a bad thing? It isn't per se but my point is that Ms Parks was not the first black person to refuse to give up her seat on a segregated bus in the South. Many others did so before her and most of them were males (including Jackie Robinson). For the most part they though were not handled as gently by the police from what I've heard. Other women surely did this as well but didn't get any publicity. Parks though was arguably the right person at the right time. First of alll this happened not too long after the Emmit Till funeral and people (including Parks) were so fed up they wanted to do something, anything. Next MLK had come to town and though young he would prove to be the perfect leader for a boycott. Next Parks was a woman so the community knew it would be smart to rally around her because the press and white people would be more sympatheic to this happening to a black woman than it would be to a black man. Last of all she was considered to be, by black people's standards, middle class, she was educated, she and her family had a reputation as beng "honorable Negroes" and she was light skinned. Yes, all those factors made a difference. (Now that I think about it one could say that Rosa Parks was similiar to Jackie Robinson in another way because he wasn't the first black player good enough to play in the big leagues...but he came from the right background at the right time and he had the type of grooming that his contemporaries lacked).

The Lovings didn't have all those factors going for it but they had two advantages:

1)it was a wm/bw pairing. If it had been a black man and a white woman there would have been less sympathy for them and more grief. Their lives may have been in a lot more danger too. And trust me if a bm/wm pairing had been the ones to break down that law/barrier it would not be celebrated nearly as much as the Lovings.

2)Ms. Loving was a beauty. Male bigots of all stripes love to make exceptions when the woman of a different race who is hooked up with one of their own is a good-looking gal. Why would white men be any different? In fact white men may be the leading advocates of this way of thinking.

I'm not trying to take shots at the Lovings because they had nothing to do with how they were viewed. But I simply can't get myself too excited over their story because it is just another example of the double standard that has existed in the USA for an eternity.
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JamalSpunky said:
No offense to the couple but I always saw them as the IR version of Rosa Parks. Why is that a bad thing? It isn't per se but my point is that Ms Parks was not the first black person to refuse to give up her seat on a segregated bus in the South. Many others did so before her and most of them were males (including Jackie Robinson). For the most part they though were not handled as gently by the police from what I've heard. Other women surely did this as well but didn't get any publicity. Parks though was arguably the right person at the right time. First of alll this happened not too long after the Emmit Till funeral and people (including Parks) were so fed up they wanted to do something, anything. Next MLK had come to town and though young he would prove to be the perfect leader for a boycott. Next Parks was a woman so the community knew it would be smart to rally around her because the press and white people would be more sympatheic to this happening to a black woman than it would be to a black man. Last of all she was considered to be, by black people's standards, middle class, she was educated, she and her family had a reputation as beng "honorable Negroes" and she was light skinned. Yes, all those factors made a difference. (Now that I think about it one could say that Rosa Parks was similiar to Jackie Robinson in another way because he wasn't the first black player good enough to play in the big leagues...but he came from the right background at the right time and he had the type of grooming that his contemporaries lacked).

The Lovings didn't have all those factors going for it but they had two advantages:

1)it was a wm/bw pairing. If it had been a black man and a white woman there would have been less sympathy for them and more grief. Their lives may have been in a lot more danger too. And trust me if a bm/wm pairing had been the ones to break down that law/barrier it would not be celebrated nearly as much as the Lovings.

2)Ms. Loving was a beauty. Male bigots of all stripes love to make exceptions when the woman of a different race who is hooked up with one of their own is a good-looking gal. Why would white men be any different? In fact white men may be the leading advocates of this way of thinking.

I'm not trying to take shots at the Lovings because they had nothing to do with how they were viewed. But I simply can't get myself too excited over their story because it is just another example of the double standard that has existed in the USA for an eternity.
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JamalSpunky said:
No offense to the couple but I always saw them as the IR version of Rosa Parks. Why is that a bad thing? It isn't per se but my point is that Ms Parks was not the first black person to refuse to give up her seat on a segregated bus in the South. Many others did so before her and most of them were males (including Jackie Robinson). For the most part they though were not handled as gently by the police from what I've heard. Other women surely did this as well but didn't get any publicity. Parks though was arguably the right person at the right time. First of alll this happened not too long after the Emmit Till funeral and people (including Parks) were so fed up they wanted to do something, anything. Next MLK had come to town and though young he would prove to be the perfect leader for a boycott. Next Parks was a woman so the community knew it would be smart to rally around her because the press and white people would be more sympatheic to this happening to a black woman than it would be to a black man. Last of all she was considered to be, by black people's standards, middle class, she was educated, she and her family had a reputation as beng "honorable Negroes" and she was light skinned. Yes, all those factors made a difference. (Now that I think about it one could say that Rosa Parks was similiar to Jackie Robinson in another way because he wasn't the first black player good enough to play in the big leagues...but he came from the right background at the right time and he had the type of grooming that his contemporaries lacked).

The Lovings didn't have all those factors going for it but they had two advantages:

1)it was a wm/bw pairing. If it had been a black man and a white woman there would have been less sympathy for them and more grief. Their lives may have been in a lot more danger too. And trust me if a bm/wm pairing had been the ones to break down that law/barrier it would not be celebrated nearly as much as the Lovings.

2)Ms. Loving was a beauty. Male bigots of all stripes love to make exceptions when the woman of a different race who is hooked up with one of their own is a good-looking gal. Why would white men be any different? In fact white men may be the leading advocates of this way of thinking.

I'm not trying to take shots at the Lovings because they had nothing to do with how they were viewed. But I simply can't get myself too excited over their story because it is just another example of the double standard that has existed in the USA for an eternity.
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well i agree with your point and with what you are trying to say, but 'll say this racism is an institution,and a strong one at that. it has to be attacked at all sides. one thing or one way won't suffice. while the parameters might not to the level we want it to be, i still respect it for what it was, a crack in a very racist society......and that crack opened the doors for others. the same way the black cr movement inspired latinos, gays and other groups, this can inspire all ir romances. i don't think of this as wm/bw, i think of it as two ppl in love just wanting to be themselves w/o abuse or hate......what is the civil rights but a lot of effort to be treated normal. in the olympics the winner gets gold. with civil rights, your victory is starting back at square one, but knowing if you play by the rules, the ref won't cheat you. they have found success, but our journey continues, and all of it for the goal of being treted normal, basically strenuous effort to reach benchmark of being ignored and no one caring who you sleep with at night.
 
Soulthinker said:
Yes,it took a White man and Black woman to break the barriers for all interracial couples.
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you gotta get past that for a moment(remember the media is predominantely white and male, so all they will promote is white male-centric) to me what we all want is equality. meaning equal treatment. they started a national conversation, this documentary brings it up again. we just ave to make sure we are a part of it. i'm not saying it will lead to immediate success, but remember ppl were getting lynched during their time. today,for the most part, all we get is dirty looks. not the end, but its something.......
 
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