The only Oreo in the Room<<<< Any others?

Thank you, jade. That's what I have been saying in another thread. Because the world has so many cultures/classes of people, 'acting' a certain way doesn't determine what's 'black' or 'white'.

 

choc-yes, but they are all the same class and they are family. so the question originally was for those who consider themselves OREOs and not really accepted by the mainstream black community bcause of social connections.

so most of the posts here have not really answered the question, but I know most people just come to argue or make jokes, so i realize that, but was looking to talk to like minded black people here. most people here are like the mainstream (nothign wrong with that--just that i dont fit that and so its hard to have conversations when people are just talkinga bout hiphop culture).


nilan is an example of what i was talking about

 

I certainly don't fit the stereotype. I get stares (like I'm some alien) from all kinds of people, both black and white. I dress preppy and wear rock and roll t-shirts. Some even mistake me as Indian because my hair is naturally straight. Then again, those people don't do anything for me. Why should I care?

 

briliant!! man you are just like me, you sound cool!!

 

We didn't really answer the question because we don't understand how to define a so-called 'Oreo.'

 

Eh!? More labels!? No, excuse me, more like "baggage ideologues" attach to labels, and these labels are substitutes for thought.

I think SG is correct, who defines this label and what does it mean!? Are they "Left", "Right", "Liberal", or "Conservative." Also, why is everyone so quick to label themselves!? Is there really a need for conformation!?

Blah............... don't mind me it's the ramblings of a "Leper."

 

All this talk about Oreo's is making me hungry.

*snackbreak*

 

LOL... If all else fails....eat..... :wink:

 

Sardonic, that is because the post didnt ask YOU to define OREO. It asked people who consider themselves OREOs to talk and share being an OREO. If you are not a defined or self defined OREO then the post wouldnt pertain to you.

seven, if you dont like labels then why come into a post that is using a so called label? It has nothing to do with politics so it is not right, left, conservative or liberal.

It is a conversation between those who consider themselves OREOs. like nilan who would like me identify that way.

 

I know, tucker, but what I was telling you was that by definition of what you claim an 'Oreo' is, there is no such thing as one. They do not exist, like 'wiggers', because when you claim that someone is (insert label) because they speak/act/walk/talk a certain way, that is a form of prejudice and underlying racism, laced with an inferiority complex about something you cannot understand or relate to.



It's just like saying, because you have a good education and are worldly-wise, you are automatically an 'Oreo.' Well, then, you might as well as call most of the men in this site 'Oreos' by that standpoint, if that's true.

Growing up in a predominately (insert color) community, going to the schools, churches, malls, clubs, and whatever else, doesn't make you anything to be labeled, especially if you take into account all the suburban blacks in this country alone, who either come from predominately black or white neighborhoods/towns, and all the white people who either come from predominately white neighborhoods/towns that are either rustic/trailer trash, suburban, ghetto, high class, beach bums, or punk/metal/retro.

So, we still don't know what this 'Oreo' label is supposed to be.



I think I got it now: Black man, educated, well-cultured/traveled, polite, chivalrous, not into bubble gum pop culture, etc. =Oreo

And: Black man, uneducated, felon, alcoholic, drug-addict, thugged-out, lazy, unskilled, sex-crazed, etc. = Normal Black

AM I RIGHT???

 

no you are not right, I wasnt labeling anyone--I was describing myself and you still havent read the original post, which was, to all the people who describe themselves as OREO (meaning black on the outside yet identify with white culture--not stereotypes).

no one was labeling anyone, Like Wiggers who describe themselves as such, no one labeled them that.

 

Yes, you are. You're labeling yourself as an 'Oreo', so that also qualifies as labeling, and you ought to know by now that not many of us consider ourselves to be 'Oreo's', based on the kind of responses you have been receiving so far.

When I asked 'Am I right', it was in relation to the definition of an 'Oreo' you presented, so while I read what you said, you didn't read what I said and how I meant it.

 

good, then self labeling is fine for me. we do it all the time--whether we call ourselves, black(which we arent) or afro american, or an artist or lawyer, a reader or a golfer, an afrocentric or an OREO.

I choose that label for myself and was seeking others who are to talk to--so if you arent labeling yourself as an OREO, sardonic, then I dont think I was referring to you. But there are some here who do, like me and Nilan, and thats what the post was meant for. Sorry if you didnt understand that, i wasnt labeling you, i was labeling myself.

 

People don't always self-label themselves for biased reasons like 'acting/walking/talking' a certain way. That's the same thing as saying 'I act white because I'm not hip or down enough, but since I'm black, it makes me an Oreo.' You agreed in another thread that color doesn't define the way anyone should or shouldn't 'act', or who they are as a whole.

That's what we don't get about it.

 

well we will have to agree to disagree about this one. That was not the reason for the post--I am an OREO as is Nilan and thats cool for us, if you are not that is cool too.

peace bro

 

Whoa. Now Tucker, as much as i admire you and everything, it stoops to amaze me that you, a man of great widsom and knowledge, would label yourself with such a word. The term "Oreo" is used, primarily by African Americans, as a derogatory term for a person who is black by ethnicity, yet whose sympathies lie with whites or whose mannerisms or behavior are preserved as stereotypically white. The term implies that the individual so described is "black on the outside, but white on the inside". These terms are generally considered racist for implying that there is a certain way to act or think if an individual is of a given ethnicity.

Now i dont think there is anything wrong with fitting in with the less mainstream "black" ways of acting/living. I dont even believe there is anything like ethnicity being attached to a way of acting. Now i am not that much of a hip-hop fan anymore, i dont make use of slangs, i dont act thuggish and i am not loud but by no means would i refer to myself with such an overtly silly word. I find it shameful and more importantly inferior. A word like that implies that you think less of yourself.

See tucker, i dont want you to feel that its a personal vendetta against you but i just find it rather surprising that you would think that there is a certain way of behaving which is linked to your ethnicity. I get called that word a few times too whenever i decide to dress "white"- as the black girls around me put it. Thats not to say i agree with them. People tell me i dont walk, talk and act black enough but i could care less. Im just my own person, i do what i want when i want.

 

For the same reasons as LadeezmanCris, SardonicGenie, and 7, I would never label myself an Oreo. To answer your question, I definitely don't fit into the stereotypical black image and have been asked "were you raised by a white mother".

 

Wow, and some of you have the nerve to call me a self hating, phony black person. I don't start threads calling myself an oreo or threads titled "when you're ugly like me you gotta be smooth". But I guess it is easy to pick on the youngest guy around...makes you all feel tough. Whatever floats your boats...

 

Actually...I'm the youngest here as I just turned 20 two weeks ago....no one picked on you until what happened the other day and that was just people saying they disagree with your analysis of the looks of two girls...all opinion in my book. Some of the other posters maybe got a little rough with you but when you call someone a fat, ugly bitch....someone will get raw on you....if you punk someone out you have to expect they will say something. Your girl getting on here and saying some extra stuff only added fuel.......this is why we as black people can't accomplish shit.....you have white folks who come from different backgrounds (trashy, blue-blood, middle America etc.) who team together to try and keep our asses down, but we can't get past all of this "I am blacker than you....your are whiter than Jennifer Anniston" type shit....everyone needs to bury the hatchet and stop all of this nonsense....I don't know if anyone should apologize but at least let bygones be bygones and move on to more important matters.

Listen Pey...if you got on here and someone made remarks about you like that...most of us would probably (I would hope) have your back.....even if it didn't bother you (which it probably wouldn't like many guys) we'd still get on the other person no matter who it was. Honesty is honesty but some things don't need to be said.

 

well, some people try to turn traditional insults into badges of honor, like computer guys calling themselves nerds, asians calling themselves chinks, women calling themselves bitches, etc, etc, the list goes on.