"The Thing About Black Men"

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by Nellie, May 26, 2006.

  1. malachi

    malachi New Member

    facial and body hair, and lack of body shape common to south asian women doesn't do too much for me.

    but to each his own.
     
  2. NN1

    NN1 New Member

    I actually find myself attracted to some East Indian women, but I think relationships with them would have even more complications than with any other race. On the whole, East Indians are VERY ethnocentric, and very tightly bound by societal norms. The school I go to has a large East Indian population and a few of their girls have displayed interest in me and I've been friends with a couple, but I don't think I'd be willing to have a serious relationship with one.
     
  3. NN1

    NN1 New Member

    Funny that you mention studying with an East Indian. How did that go in terms of her reactions to you studying?
     
  4. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    i have had them(east indians) as close friends--a good one or two now, and have dated several--not a problem really, but some can be quite ethnocentric as whites and blacks are as well.
     
  5. infiniti

    infiniti New Member

    Tucker, I don't think you should even try to say blacks and whites are anywhere near Indians when it comes to how ethnocentric they are. This is like comparing night and day.

    The Indian guy who owns the store up the street will not even touch the hands of Americans (regardless of race) while giving them change. He has no trouble touching Indian folks hands. I asked him what was the meaning of all that nonsense and I can't even remember the incomprehensible garbage he told me.
     
  6. malachi

    malachi New Member

    The Asians of Caribbean descent aren't *as* ethnocentric as the ones from the subcontinent, but it ranks high. The reggae and soca parties on my campus were often attended by "coolies" from Guyanese and Trinidad
     
  7. sunstorm

    sunstorm New Member

    I don't mind if a woman doesn't want to date me because she'd rather stick to her own ethnicity. Given the reality of U.S. society, that only make sense.

    What's messed up about many of these indian women is that they're all absolutely sure that every black man wants them. You don't even have to make an overture to be "rejected" by these simians.

    ...And on the flipside: they roll out the red carpet for virtually any ol' white guy.

    In the meanwhile, with all their apparent pinheadedness and small-mindedness, they entertain notions that they're "superior" to black people. They're cowards, intellectually small, spiritually weak, tepid & pedestrian, yet vain enough to try to convince themselves they're "superior".

    Any black man worth his salt should have no patience for such attitudes.

    Message to indian women: Please take it to heart, not all black men want you. Black men are generally open-minded, so yes, some will be attracted to you -- BUT -- once they know what you're made of, your look just isn't so special anymore... (Plus, a lot of you need to become acquainted with the habit of using deodorant.)

    Some black men, such as myself, wouldn't give you the time of day -- even in the literal sense. Personally, I wish black men had more pride & dignity in the face of the smallmindedness of asians.
     
  8. jaydun25

    jaydun25 New Member

    Bruh, that is the truth. They do think that all black man want them, and they also think that you should be flattered if they find you attractive. I had some Indian chick trying to subtley rub up against me in assembly class last Thursday when I was approaching the teacher's desk.

    Bruh, I pay indian women NO ATTENTION. I am not attracted to the majority of them--THANK GOD. I am happy I am nott afflicted with that maschostic attraction.

    Now, admittedly I had a very HARD time shaking my attraction to some of those East Asian women, because I had never seen them before I came to California. However, after getting a whiff of their racist behavior, I don't look their way AT ALL. Now, they are looking my way...LOL. It is funny how things work man.

    After having so many bad experiences with them, my attraction for them just went away. I don't feel anything when I see them anymore; and I just go right past them.

    For some reason, all women think that black men are just waiting to jump their bones. If they show the least bit of interest, they expect you to be salivating over them or something; and they are actually SHOCKED when you aren't. Many of them will try, and try, and try to get your attention, and once they think they got it, they will try to coldy reject you. I guess that is part of their "I can have any man I want syndrome". Many of them will screw a black man-behind closed doors--in a new york minute. In fact, many of these other race women are very attracted to black men. However, they can't let anyone else know that they are. So many of them try to hurt YOU in the process by doing stupid, racist shit; especially if you are percieved as being a good-looking black male. People want to make you feel small, because they hate being attracted to your black ass.

    Black women think this too, and they become very hurt if they show interest to you, and you don't show any back. In fact, many black women will act outright childish if you ignore them, and they like you. I have had many that started calling me names because I wouldn't look at them...WTF??

    Every group of women in this society expects the black man to constantly be in pursuit of them; while getting CONSTANTLY REJECTED in the mean time. The only brother who would put himself out there like that is a fool; because that is all many of these women think that black men are...FOOLS. The ways that I have seen many of my brethren get treated by women when they are pursuit of them make me shake my head. Many of these brothers put up with total humiliation just to get with these women out here.

    In my opinion, a man should only approach the woman he REALLY WANTS; and IGNORE the others. Many of these women will never openly admit their attraction to black men; unless he is of the likes of LL COOL J, or something. It is just not cool for women in American Society to admit that many black men are good looking; because they would get ousted from family and friends if they did so.

    Like you said before, there is definitely a TABOO against black men in this society; and every female in this society is afflicted with it; and we have to suffer because of the conflict inside many of these women who are attracted to black men out here.

    Anyway, your posts are always on point bruh, I always ENJOY reading your posts; as I can relate to everything you say.

    Later,
     
  9. jaydun25

    jaydun25 New Member

    Bruh, I am going to tell you the truth. The way some of these paranoid ass women act out here, it will sometimes make you hate going outside to take care of your business. Like I said, it is not so much the damn men, as it is the fucking women, they are just crazy in the head man. Black as well as non-black women act like this. I was just at Costco today, and man, you can't even walk down the same damn isle as some of these paranoid ass females. Every since I have came out to California, I have felt a constant discomfort that NEVER goes away. I haven't felt at ease since I have been here; because the fucking people are bugged bruh. If it wasn't for the nice ass weather I would be gone... BUT WHERE? I hear brothers talking the same shit no matter where they are. From what I am seeing, it is the women of EVERY nationality trying to HUMILIATE YOU. I don't have hardly ANY encounters with the men of ANY RACE. They just tend to mind their own fucking business. The women NEVER can just leave well enough alone.

    Anyway, I think what constantly pisses you off, is that you have to encounter this pinheaded ass shit from women every damn day. I can't even walk from my Car to my class without seeing some female act as if I am checking her out and shit. You see these women, all of a sudden, change directions, as if you are going to say something to them. This shit isn't happening at ALL to men of any other race. This shit is ONLY happening to black men; and it is borderline ridiculous. Somebody needs to speak out on this shit; because it is definitely a problem.

    I haven't even looked at many of these women, I am looking straight ahead. These women are almost comical in their actions towards black men. However, they want their men to act just like your black ass; even down to having a damn tan....LOL!!!

    The dudes aren't tripping half as damn hard as the women are; and many of these women have NEVER even been looked at by black males, so their behavior makes no sense. Somtimes I even wonder to myself, am I being paranoid, and much of the time, I wish that I was. What trips you out the most, is that some of these women are just totally undesirable; in fact, many of them are, and yet they act like you are just crying to get at them and shit. It is obvious by the way that many women act, that they really think that we LIKE anything. Otherwise, many of them would KNOW we weren't into them. Regardless of how many black men/black women couples people see, ALL women feel like, given the chance, that a brother would JUMP at being with them; ESPECIALLY MINORITY WOMEN.

    They are full of shit.

    It seems like every woman of EVERY race has to feel like every black man wants them, just so they can feel desired. Many of them have the mentality that if the lowest man on the societal totem pole isn't attracted to me, then something the hell must be wrong with me. I am serious. I cannot BEGIN to count the number of times women have practically humiliated themselves to get my attention, only to turn and around and try to treat me cold afterward. The shit makes no sense. This stuff isn't happening to men of other races AT ALL. You don't see women acting like that toward them and shit, and then trying to play them cold and shit.

    It seems like, out here, everybody wants you to drop your head and shit. Everybody wants you to drop your head so THEY can feel comfortable. Especially if you are a good-looking black guy. Fukk that. Everybody wants to make a bitch out of you. You see people trying to humiliate you, and all types of shit.

    Being a perceptive, as well as an intelligent brother is a gift and a curse. The thugs don't give a shit; because they don't care about anything. And you know what? Maybe that is a good thing. Because if they did, they would be crushed by all the shit that they DID see. When you are a perceptive brother, you see this shit CONSTANTLY.

    It is the fact that people are actually TRYING to hurt you that bothers you. These mofos out here aren't the least bit ignorant, they are trying to make you feel bad about yourself. When I first came to Cali, I couldn't believe how many homeless black men I saw. The first thing I said was, why are there so many homeless black men out here.

    After being here for almost ten years, I see why bruh. If they have gone through all the shit that I go through, then there is no question. The shit will wear you out; because it never ends, and nobody gives a shit. Every damn body is in on it; sadly even other misguided black males.

    However, when they see some black man who went crazy in the news, they think it is just because niggers are violent and shit. Hell, with all the shit that we go through every day, I am surprised that we aren't MORE violent than we are.

    Oh, and about the indian thing, you have a point there too bruh. I remember one day when I was in the financial aid office, it was really packed. There was only one seat available, and it was between an indian guy and an East Asian guy. So, tired from standing, I went to take a seat. The minute I did, this indian immediately got up, trying to make a statement and embarrass me and shit. However, no damn body saw what he did. Therefore, he just looked like a total dumbass. Here comes his wife, with her hard ass feet and shit. The bitch looked like she did the damn lindy hop on hot coals and shit.

    I am looking at this pock-faced mofo, who looked like he has been in the gulf war and shit, and wondering to myself...What gives this mofo the wherewithall to think that he is better than me. I mean what? The mofo don't look better than me, so that can't be the case, the mofo looked like he was just unrolled from a rug from Ricky Shroeder's mansion and shit, dirty looking mofo, and yet this fool still feels like he is better than me somewhow. For some reason, this is what everybody thinks; and many of these people are fresh off the boat. The fucking Mexicans are a prime example. Man, I am here to tell you, some Mexican women are fine, don't get me wrong, but the average one is not attractive to me man. However, they think you are after them; all fucking women act like YOU, are after them.

    Everybody, and I do mean EVERY DAMN BODY FEELS THIS TREMENDOUS NEED to feel like they are better than the damn black man; even black women act like this. I mean there isn't a group in this country that feels different. Only in this society can an outstanding black man, who would be top-tier in an Egalatarian system, be treated like the damn gum on a person's fucking shoe. The system turns outstanding black men into losers, and makes loser white men into winners. The shit sucks.

    You try not to get mad at this shit, but you really can't help but get angry, any damn body would, when you see that 90% of the people that you encounter are out here trying to slight your ass.

    It makes no sense.

    Later,
     
  10. malachi

    malachi New Member

    I would take this a step further. I think a man who has it together should even ignore the ones he really wants.

    let the women do the wanting and let him have the ultimate pick, it's hilarious to see an attractive woman's reaction to a man who doesn't appear to be attracted to them or paying them no mind.

    it's just too fun to see almost grown women resorting to juvenille behavior to get your attenion because they think you're not attracted to them....

    surprisingly, i've even seen some women do this around unattractive guys because such guys are often unaware of how many women see them, and are oftentimes the ones to start saying some of the wall nonsense to get women's attention out of desparation and low esteem. in any event, a not so good looking guy ultimately does himself a favor regardless of the outcome by minding his own business and not feeding into women's neurotic behavior.
     
  11. jaydun25

    jaydun25 New Member

    You are right malachi, in fact, that is what I do ALL THE TIME. The only problem with it, is that the damn game NEVER ends. Many of the women can wait that shit out for ETERNITY; because there will always be some BUM who will approach them; even if YOU DON'T. I have seen women who almost threw fits because I wouldn't talk to them. However, they would NOT BREAK DOWN and say the first word. That is the power females have in the mating game, and the majority of them REFUSE to give it up.

    In the end, nothing happened; because I didn't break down either. Men, even attractive ones, will always have less options than women. That is the problem right there, and the good guys, especially good black men, suffer the damn most; because very few people will ever ALLOW themselves to get close enough to SEE HOW GOOD YOU REALLY ARE. Only a special person will ALLOW themselves to love a black man in this society; and they are VERY hard to find.

    Much of the time, you can't even get past the damn preliminary process with many females, because their asses are so distrustful and neurotic that they will sabotage the shit BEFORE it even starts due to their jaded female intuition.

    Anyway, good point though bruh.

    Later,
     
  12. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member



    Yes, but still, there isn't any denying what Jaydun and sunstorm posted, because it happens all over this country, so much to the point that many black men have just given up on everything in their lives. (employment, girlfriend/wife, family,etc) and just like them, I usually play it cool in public, but on the inside, sometimes I'm ready to burst myself, but it's not like you won't be labled paranoid, violent, angry, crazy, stupid, and other names either, depsite the fact that there are more than enough black men in this country alone who will say the exact same things about American racism. We'll just get the usual death ear as always no matter what, so as I've stated before in other threads, we're damned if we do, and damned if we don't, and that goes for everything.
     
  13. malachi

    malachi New Member

    true SG, but in the end, i think we can only be responsible for our own behavior and actions. even though we can't do much in the way to prevent the most desparate and needy and self-hating of black men from wanting to get "some" from obviously demented and neurotic derived-out market value women, we can still make our lives easier and respectable by not contributing to the cycle.

    i wish blacks had more pride and self-dignity.
     
  14. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member


    And, there IT IS.
     

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