Trump Not Acting Very Presidential...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by swirlman07, Apr 23, 2011.

  1. Nerdy Girl

    Nerdy Girl New Member

    Swirlman... you've just pressed one of my "pet peeve" buttons... I couldn't agree more. One of the things about political discourse that annoys me most is the use of the term "career politician" as a prejorative because it devalues the skill and expertise that politicians bring to their offices. I can't think of another profession where this is the case. Who goes to the hospital and says "For God's sake, don't let a career surgeon operate on me!"

    But you're right - there is often a big gap between the qualities that get one elected (including the ability to downplay the skills and expertise required and run as an "outsider") and the qualities that make one effective in office.

    I particularly wonder about those who make the claim that skills easily transfer from one profession (business, in Trump's case - or perhaps bad reality TV) to politics. Business and politics are quite different and government is not always about the bottom line.
     
  2. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    Oh my gosh, It's certainly one of my hot buttons as well. I'm not sure if I want to start a mutual admiration society or if we should form a think tank to advocate in favor of a more literate electorate.

    Intellectual capacity and diplomacy lose out to a process that is more akin to ratings sweepstakes. Politicians have "handlers" and "groomers" to maximize appeal, rather than exploring the qualifications of the candidates that truly matter.

    Political Action Groups funded by the Mega Multi-Nationals fuel the misinformation that deludes an uninformed electorate into voting against its own interests, because they don't realize that they are those are one pay check from being homeless, not the welfare recipient.

    You didn't have to be a University of Chicago economist to understand that trickle down economics wouldn't work, or that allowing the financial markets to regulate themselves would result in ruin.

    But, rhetoric never seems to help. So, how shall we proceed? I'm certainly open to begin the discourse.
     
  3. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Here's the thing. Very little can be done if anything at all. We have a become a very lazy and complacent populus who would rather tweet than read anything. We as a country allowed bankers to fuck us out of 13 trillion dollars and not even a single riot? The America of strong willed patriots who wanted to work for a fair wage and someday buy a home in a nice area has been replaced by reality tv addicted wanna be superstars. No one wants to work to achieve anything, they just want fame and fortune. We've all bought into an idea that some how just being born American makes you exceptional and because of that we have become lazier than ever, willing to blame each other for the state of the union ie welfare, teacher's unions, and pension plans before pointing the finger at the assholes who got us into this mess. Not one of the those fuckers has had to go to jail, not a single charge of fraud, just business as usual while we sit on our hands.
    At this point I suggest everyone learn Mandarin and Spanish because we will need to know the languages of the supervisors and the workers.

    Count down to Armagedon because the US is done.
     
  4. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    get yourself an international perspective and be willing to migrate to another country if needed. :eek:

    i think that's something that Americans in general lack. there is more to life than just the US.
     
  5. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    This makes better sense than learning mandarin and spanish.

    Speaking spanish ain't even helping the Black people in spanish countries...I don't know why negroes think it's going to help them in America.
     
  6. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    You have to survive in the mean time not everyone has the resources just get up and leave. Katrina anyone?
     
  7. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    I was just pointing out that speaking spanish and mandarin won't put a dime in your pocket.
     
  8. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    that's true. but even people with the resources are so rooted in America, that they would never leave. England can't be that much different culturally, and if I had to, I would leave the US and go there or France. Africa...I don't know too much about that, but I probably wouldn't leave the US and live there lol. Do they even know what a PS3 is?:p

    lol
     
  9. APPIAH

    APPIAH Well-Known Member

    Voting for Donald Trump would be a waste of votes, the establishment is the establishment Ross Perot tried it and backed out so if you wanna vote for Donald Trump, then rather vote for Ralph Nader at least he has been a pest for sometime now.
     
  10. Blacktiger2005

    Blacktiger2005 Well-Known Member

     
  11. Blacktiger2005

    Blacktiger2005 Well-Known Member

    WTF, originally posted comments in bold print by Flaminghetero. Just my response to him.
     
  12. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    We need a strong person in the White House, but we also need both a business man and an INTELLIGENT man. Trump is business smart no doubt, but he does not have worldly intelligence. And as of yet he is purposely not stated any concrete ideas that he would employ to set America on the right track.
     
  13. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    California is the way it is not because of its leadership, but because of its laws, or rather they way it passes its laws.
     
  14. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    lippy would love to see trump debate another candidate..his favorite responses:

    "that's none of your business"

    "next question"

    "i'm not going to tell you"

    "i don't have to answer that"

    "what kind of a question it that"

    ;-)
     
  15. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    The first 'presidential' thing Trump needs is a presidential hairpiece!
     
  16. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    trump's a millionaire

    first thing he needs to do is forfeit the presidential salary
     
  17. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    Dude, exactly. It's not like he needs it. That would be some 'change' I could believe in.
     
  18. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    lol

    seriously

    that would be the first sign that he cares about his constituency
     
  19. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I agree. He has no wisdom whatsoever. Running an efficient organization is but one of the skills you need to manage something as complex as the US government. And besides, hasn't he gone bankrupt more than once? While the US business culture rewards risk and everyone is theoretically supposed to get a second chance to reinvent themselves, that's not a sound approach to the nation's finances.
     
  20. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    You on AIM?
     

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