UK programme on racism - surprising statistics

A TV show here states that racist crime in the UK are proportionally committed by more Asians than white people.

Black people make up 4% of society yet commit 3rd of racist crimes
Whites make up 90% of society, yet commit only 40% of racist crime
And Asians have committed highest increase statistically of racist crime.

One BM said how he was attacked by a gang of Asians who called him nigger etc. The man said that he hadn't been called a nigger in the UK for over 20 years until then.

The show also said how government funding for housing etc, was "positively discriminated" towards Asian people, and that funding was only guaranteed for certain ethnic groups. They said that the competitive nature of different ethnic groups all fighting for money from the same pot of gold based on ethnicity rather than need has deepened racial tension and been deeply divisive.


Multicultural Britain is a political agenda based on apologising and giving in to those who shout loudest (my thoughts, nit the TV programme)

 

That is really interesting,But I'm not surprised that would happen.

 

May I ask why you're not surprised?

 

From what I understand alot of east Asians have a caste system and they think lowly of darker skinned people. The ones I know are cool but most have these perceived notions that they are better than blacks.

 

Oh I see. Well the feeling I get from a lot of them is that they think they're better than everyone else! I know that's not actually the case, but that is how it comes across a lot of the time. Most of them don't really mix with other people, only "their own" communities, some never even learn English.

But what didn't surprise me was the government being surprised that awarding grants and funding based on ethnicity would increase racial tensions! Surely finances should be given to those who need it most, otherwise you'll only increase competitiveness and "them and us" mentality.

 

Well when you think about it,this is a ploy to keep the minorities fighting amongst each other.

 

I never looked at it that way. I've always seen it as the government thinking whites are "privileged" enough so put us to bottom of pile when it comes to receiving funds etc. But those who play the race card 9as many do, believe me) get paid off to shut up.

 

Thank you very much for that. Im not from the UK but i've been around them a lot and i thought i was the only one who felt that way about them. Some thinkg they're better than blacks but cant even spell the word "ONE". Ridiculous!

 

Well, I don't wish to point the finger or generalise too much, as I know not all are like that and probably not the majority are either. But a fair few are here, more than a small minority. They segregate themselves from everyone else, constantly put down people who are different to them and complain about local and national traditions and cultures - yet they chose to come and live here.

I'm fed up with listening them critisize western ways, moan about their children being disadvantaged at school as they don't speak the language, and even having all Urdu speaking schools - how will they ever integrate when they cut themselves off like that?

And the funding for houses and the like MUST be needs based. Their is only one pot of gold and it can't be given to people to make up for colonisation and previous racist attitudes. It must be allocated on needs basis regardless of ethnicity, otherwise it makes a mockery of equal opportunities.

 

Who do you mean when you say "Asian" IW ? because USA thinks of chinese and japanese when they say "asian". But Europe thinks of india, bangldesh, pakistan, afghan etc when with the word "asian".

I dont know much about them in UK but i think it sucks if they decide to live there and then force their religion, lives etc on that country.

 

I mean Indian and Pakistani. There is generally little to no problem from the Chine and Japanese and they mix very well with everyone around them.

The most recent race riots over the last few years have been predominately Asians v everyone else, and thus usually comes from the the Muslims.

Again, I don't wish to bang on about it as though that's how they all are, as they're not, but there certainly are plenty who cut themself off from everyone else and then critisize what was here before they arrived. And I personally blame the government for giving in to such people, as it only acts as an incentive to encourage more of it.

For example, one school has banned "Hot Cross Buns" (the sweet spiced bread rolls with a cross on them, which are eaten during Easter by Christians - and everyone else who likes the taste) because they feel the Cross on the buns would offend offend non Christians! I mean, how ridiculous can you get? Why is it OK to offend Christians (which I'm not by the way) and tell them they can't do this and that even though this is a supposedly Christian country, yet if you offend a Muslim you are threatened with all sorts of things - if you even get the chance to offend them as a lot fairly normal things are banned before they could possibly offend.

 

the girl talks sense!
i know what you mean
one thing i don't understand is why come to a country, and then shut yourself off from that country? i mean if you or i went to certain muslim countries as women we would be restricted-have to wear burkas, no showing arms or legs, not going certain places at certain times etc.

ok fine, no problem with that, but then when you come to my country, you do not join in with our culture. instead you bring your own culture over, and not amalgamate with others.

britain has this reputation of being racist, and i'm sure it once was, but i do feel the majority of people these days agree to live and let live. for example the notting hill carnival every year- a carnival initiated by the west indians living in london is now so multi cultural - cos the west indians came over and allowed the whites to integrate witht he blacks, and the whites did the same. but the problem is here now is the muslim extremists are becoming the voice of that denomination, and are making the rest of the country not want to accept them.

one thing i would disagree with is you included Indians. i have to say i know quite a few indians, as well as pakistanis, bangladeshis- i am the only white person on my course- out of 45 people. Indians on the whole are quiet and calm people. (think arpu in the simpsons- very much the personality of the Indians i have met) now, the pakistanis i know are always cheating the system, and just don't care about anything or anyone. - just my personal experience.

and the whole pc-thing has got ridiculous. do you know we weren't allowed to have 'christmas lights' or 'nativity plays' for fear of offending non-christians. its ridiculous. why shouldn't i be allowed to celebrate my religion and its traditions. the muslims sure as hell can.

 

Tash and the girlie talk a pretty good game to me. Their viewpoints are from a logical perspective, unlike these West Asian (India, Pakistani) Muslim extremists, who CLEARLY have an agenda to push upon the world, regarding the 'great Muhammad' or 'Allah' as the one and only savior of this planet, and all those who don't follow that are either, 'infidels' or 'demons' and such.

That's what I think it all mainly is. Just a tactical ploy of PC sympathy to make the rest of the world comply to THEIR beliefs and ONLY THEIR beliefs, after all, what religion is less tolerant than all of the others, even Christianity? Bet you already know now...

not trying to generalize though, because, I, myself, have actually lived with Muslims before here in my town, but they were black American Muslims, and they were very quiet and private people.

Also, I know some Muslims that I often write to, in India and Indonesia, and they are very spiritual and tolerant people.

 

I have to agree with you. The Nigerian Muslims I know are lovely people, very quiet and regard their fellow Nigerians as brothers and join in stuff with them and in the local community in Holland just like everyone else does. I know their are always exceptions to the rule though, so am not trying to say that Nigerian Muslims are all cool and the rest of them are awful.

 

Oh, I know what you meant. You expressed yourself very clearly on this.

 

I agree with most pf the comments in this thread. Presumably, people on this site are pretty open minded and accept people as they are, and not judge people or races based on media reports.
Certainly muslims are getting bad press in Europe, and almost every problem is being blamed on them. A good example is the blame being placed on muslims for every rape of white european woman - as if we never had rape before ! We are always looking to blame someone in every generation for our problems.
We cant blame an entire race for the ills of a few.

 

That's happening here but with mexicans..

They call us "chango" and "mayate" all the while riding the coat-tails of Black struggle and achievement..

Their children born in America are automatic citizens via the 14th amendment which deals with the children of freed slaves..not illegal immigrants

Non-white immigrants are using hatred of Blacks as a way to find acceptance..it's like they're trying to hate their way into society..much like the irish and italians immigrants of days gone by..

People arrive fresh off the bus HATING BLACKS

They are merely a reflection of the racism in their home Countries.

So-called Black leaders(misleaders) totally ignore the attacks..even so far as BLAME THE BLACK VICTIMS..If the attacks came from whites they'd be OUTRAGED

California Lt Govenor Cruz Bustamante(racist mexican) called a crowd of Black people NIGGERS TO THEIR FACES!!!...and not a PEEP from our Black misleaders...had that been a white man they'd be on his ass like the Marines

Check out some of these links

http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/sayitloud/kane216

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=9325

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8410111/

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=170294

 

That's new to me. What part of Europe are you from? Where I am from, "muslims raping white women" isn't an issue/topic at all.

The scapegoat tactic...centuries old and, unfortunately, there are still people around who fall for it.

Something I like about the media over here is that, while religious motivated terrorism is discussed, it's never done without an Islamic spokesperson who is distancing himself from those people, who speaks up against all forms of extremism and who explains what Islam is really about. That prevents that people fall into the scapegoat trap because it reminds them that it's not "the muslims" per se but only a relatively small group of adherents.

 

Don't forget the stamp they issued a year back of that black character.

 

Seriously, Mexicans can be some of the most racist assholes one can imagine. I do not know if it's because we expect whites to be racists but some black people (me excluded) find it odd that Mexicans can be very racist and i ask them why. The most usual response is "They're in this thing with us". Bullshit. Latinos (excluding Puerto Ricans and including Mexicans) have always jumped on the "victim" bandwagon for as long as i can remember and they do it whenever it is comfortable for them. Latin countries are traditionally very segregated but Mexico is much worse. Blacks there are treated today like 3rd class citizens.

I always say this; i know there is rampant racism in America but i would never want to be a black man elsewhere. I do not mean to bash latinos or anything (seeing as my soon to be in-laws are) but those people have got issues with race. One minute, they claim to be in solidarity in black folks but let a Latina bring home a brotha and see the trepidation in the eyes of the parents. No one can even argue that shit with me because i have experienced it with my fucking two eyes. Latinos generally feel that they are superior to blacks but that happens anywhere there is inequality. The down-trodden have always got to look for someone to look down on. In the 60s, poor whites in the South did it to blacks, and now these fools (many of whom are illegals or descendants of illegals) want to claim superiority too.

Lastly, i wished most black folks realised that illegal immigration hurts blacks more than any other group in America. Without these illegal immigrants, we are still discriminated against and so, with them ready to accept small wages, black folks are being passed over for them. Obviously, they pose not much of a threat to professional black folks but what about the ones who do semi-skilled jobs and unskilled? Are they to become the reserve army of labor IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY? I don't think so. I know most blacks feel the reverse but i do not see what is inherently racist about keeping illegals out of our country; one which has laws to uphold it. Many immigrants (my parents included) have came here by legal means and did all it took to become legal American citizens. My fathe came to America in 1965 (co-incidentally the year the Immigration and Naturalization Services Act was passed) and did not become a full American citize until 1984. He waited for that long and so have many other immigrants. Why should some, because of their relative closeness to our country, be exempt from doing the same? I fully support immigration and wanting to take care ofyour family but you have got to do so by illegal means. I am usually at odds with conservatives but on the immigration issue, i am fully in support of their arguments. You wanna come to America, that is fine. But first, you've gotta come by legal methods, stay away from crime, learn English and be prepared to work hard like most Americans do. You cannot expect us to learn your language when you came to our own country and then try to tell us how to act. You cannot claim to be American when you fly the Mexican flag all day and burn the American flag. Doing so in Mexico will get you imprisoned. I say we treat them the same way they treat illegals in their own country.