What Justifies Marriage?

Don't matter I prefer my women a little more raunchy and a lot less mouthy.... wait let me rephrase lol

 

sounds like how i like my men

 

Match made in cyber heaven lol

 

Really good thread, gotta remember to post to it when I get home. No time to post everything that I want to say now.

 

An better question is what justifies having children.... I can't think of one good reason.

 

Being young and really stupid. Also 6 weeks pregnant in a 3 month old relationship.

It wasn't justifed at all and I paid a severe price for that choice.

"A women who is looking for a husband has obviously never had one"
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:smt103

I wasn't expecting that, I respect your honesty and feel where you are coming from.

 

I hope you're not being serious...??

 

Very.

 

What is marriage? To some it is religious sacrament, to others it is a civil institution and to others it is completely separate from church and government. The justifications for marriage in a religious context are pretty much defined within religious doctrine while civil marriage is purely for legal recognition.

Marriage is usually the result of a process that begins with some form of love and commitment, followed by the religious ceremony, followed by legal acknowledgement. In other words, you fall in love, get married in the church and file whatever documents are required to make it legally accepted (usually for insurance and tax purposes, etc.,.). In actuality, marriage is a state that two individuals can reach that requires no religious or legal recognition. Quite simply, two people who are deeply and truly in love and who agrees to remain committed to one another can be considered 'married'. Unfortunately, very few people understand love and most are afraid of commitment. This reduces marriage on any level to an idea or a fantasy.

So, the justification for marriage is quite simply those things that comprise the foundation for marriage. It usually begins with love, respect and commitment.

I also feel that is foolish to go into a marriage with the expectation that it will last forever. The commitment that you make to one another is not a life long commitment, but one that says "during the time that we remain married, I shall remain true". It is entirely natural and normal that people grow apart with time. That then builds your justification for divorce. I'd sooner part ways with a woman who I no longer feel married to than we remain together and begin to build hatred and disdain for one another. It is religion that made divorce dirty and shameful.

So my question to all of you is; Can marriage exist outside of religion or government?

 

Sure, I think of people that live together, or are faithful to one another but not legally married are essentially "married" without having added gov't nor religion.

Good post btw

 

i'll jaisee this as well.

my mum has been with her partner now for 25 years. before this relationship, my mum had been married twice and her partner had been married three times. this relationship that they are in has been their most successful to date.

and yes, jaisee's post was fabulous

 

Awesome post

 

This is a perfect explanation.

I did want to get married because i'm a hopeless romantic. But I was young and he was young and it would have never worked that way.

I am not against marriage. I know my former post might seem that way but I'm really not. What I rebel is this instituionalized definition of marriage. Sancified by the church and God and governed legally by the state. I'm sure at one point that might have served a purpose but I think in todays age it no longer affords the protection it once did. Plus, it excludes a lot of people who should be able to make a life long commitment to each other and have it be taken seriously.

For those people who have marriages that work under the old rules...I am happy for them and glad it works and they can abide by it. But when the statistics show that nearly half of all marriages end in divorce (which usually involve children) I think it's time to go back to the drawing board with the concept. Don't throw the whole thing out because it does work for some people. But allow other definitions to exist so that you can have marriages that work and are successful.

 

Been saying this for years I totally agree. Rep coming.

Allow me to point in advance how not a single one of the clucking hens on this forum will tell you "marriage is fine. If you don't like it just don't get married"

 

Har har. I sent a rep explaining that.

and thank you

 

We have an awesome chat function on here. You should check it out especially since I'll be on it tonight

 

I put my hand up for best man role thanks

 

Or bottom bitch. My pimp hand stays strong homie

 

As does mine, playboy. Stop the chat and get back to work, I've got a line of overweight geriatrics waiting to be serviced by my Cedric lookalike