whats with wm and bw anger at bmww dating anyway?

It is not as if we would date them if we werent with each other, so why are bw and wm angry about us dating IR? wouldnt logic have it that they can just find one another to fill the void?

 

Most of the white men in my life like my (friends, boyfriend, father, cousins,etc) and my black girlfriends could care less about inter racial couples. i think you may be talking about immature or close minded black women and white men.

also, i think older white men and women along with older black men and women disapprove even more of these relationships--well at least that is what i've seen.

 

To be honest, i see angry white men as pathetic to be very honest. The simple reason why they have BM/WW unions can be linked to one thing; power. No doubt in the U.S, white men have the most power which enables them to do practically anything they please. So then, to see a white woman date a black man, they feel rather threatened and offended that their pearl would stoop to date a supposed animal and someone who's 3/5 of a human. They think, "I have all the power, why date him"? I am not saying it is right but that is just how most white men think.

 

pammy, i wasnt talking about friends and family that support us. i am talking about bw and wm in society who do not approve of IR. I dont care what they think either, so thats not the question I am asking.

I am asking what makes them act so? what could they benefit from being hateful and angry at someone they dont even know, dating,marrying a person of another color whom they dont know.

 

i dunno. people usually want to date others in their own race and when they see them dating out of their race, I guess they're thinking they've lost something even when they don't even know them. i may be wrong, i don't know. there should be a survey about this. :?

 

I really wish I knew this one too.....I have some options but i do not know for sure.
i think its because WM and BW take it as personal rejection. Like in "Oh so I'm not good enough for you anymore, now you gotta date exactly the one thing I'm not/can't be" -black/white. Like...."you have a problem with ME? (or WM or BW generally) I'll have a problem with you too".

Plus, when it's a BM and a WW, it has to be the black stud white hoe thing, but when its a WM and a BW, its true love and same values.
Duhhhh !

 

i know, the kkk used to hang bm just for looking at a white woman not even 20 years ago, they dont even know the ww, and she may have never been attracted to wm ever--and yet the wm thinks he owns her. meanwhile the wm doesnt say anything to another wm for dating an Asian woman, why?

bw just try to belittle bm if they date a woman who is white or another race. I find this hilarious, not dangerous like the white supremacist, who wants to kill you. the black woman is angry and tries to make you cower, but I have a line for them everytime and they just go, "oh" :cry:


"when I was single and not dating anyone, where were you(bw)? when I went to the bar or club to dance and meet a nice woman, why did you reject me and why did the other race of women accept me? they can never answer the question and so I say, well then you have your answer dear and keep walking

 

I am very sorry to hear about your experiences with black females.

so the black women who reject black men kinda have this "i don't want you but they can't have you either" thing going on. I didn't know it was like that.

 

yes, in Mobile Alabama they hanged a young man they just picked off the street at random.

the southern poverty law center represented his mother in court and beat them, taking all of their material possessions and any money they would ever make.

 

I think it is because bw and wm don't date nearly as much as bm and wm. So they get very jealous and are close minded about it. That is their problem though.

 

:arrow: horrified !

 

Does anybody out there feel that in the US it is totally different than in the UK to IR Date? From what I have read on this site in the different forums, from what I have picked up upon - in America it seems to be a really "big issue". And people totally analyse everything and anything to do with it.

Here in the Uk, particularly in the larger cities, a BM can walk down the street with a WW and a BW with a WM and it wont get looked at. People comment on how beautiful my children are, their hair, their big brown eyes, and that includes men and women of older generations. Mixed race children are the biggest growing ethnic population in Britain, and I feel that as long as they are taught both sides of the coin - history, cooking, cultures etc you wont go far wrong, and of course, if Mummy and Daddy love and adore one another will help along the way!

I spoke to my partner about this, he's been to America (NY), Canada, and Jamaica and he says it is very different over there to here. Much more frowned upon.

Is this true? And why? In Britain basically black people arrived here in the 1940's/1950's and we seem to have progressed a lot quicker in the right direction to what America has done.

 

I agree with you. I just visited London and Ir couples are very common and no one gives it a second thought. As a history major one theory that I have is that since the UK outlawed slavery much earlier that the Us did that could be a factor. My father is very much agaisnt IR dating. He was relieved when I married a Latino man, as most of the men I had dated before were black. [/b]

 

In Britian, blacks came in the 40s and 50s? nope, try 1400s and 1500s during the slave trade.

also, i have been to europe many times, i dont think its all that perfect as many talk about. UK has a big Neo Nazi white supremacist hate groups and National Front which attack Asians in the north, IR couples in London and small towns.

and the US has less issues than people hype. we rarely hear about attacks on IR couples in the US anymore except the odd ones reported to the www.splc.org




and again, i need to know, Why do BW date less often than BM and WW? They have a mouth, 2 feet, a brain and a heart, so arent they dating?

 

Of course. I mean, i have lived for a while in London and visit practically every year and so i know a few things about the attitudes. Mixed race children, in truth, are adored over there. No doubt a few do go through the usual "struggles" and racist attitudes of some idiots but interracial fusion is not much of a big deal. In fact, nobody really cares about it. I've seen many black men in the U.K walking with blonde, white women in their hands and no one even gives a toss. You know it is not the same story here in the U.S.A. Even in Canada, attitudes towards IR are much rewarding. The folks up there always say that people's attitudes here in the US are very shallow and i could not agree more with them. But hey, the country was built on, you guessed it, racism and so it will remain.

 

Where did you get that information from? We dont have neo-nazis walking down the street doing their funky walk or National Front activists constantly in the news. We have the BNP - The British National Party. They are a political party who basically try and get seats where there is a high Asian population (i.e. Burnley, Oldham etc). The party doesnt go in anyones faces and say they actually hate Asians, Blacks or anyone who isnt white, but they dont have to as the majority of people know what they are about and basically in this day and age they would not be allowed to say it. The troubles were caused in Oldham by the Asians and this party trying to gain a seat within their territory. However, in Britian, the Muslim community does tend to live separate from the white and the black communities- why I could not tell you.

Basically I am not denying that the UK has its fair share of Racism like any other country I suppose, Ive felt it for my 4 year old son before now when people have basically tried to sit on him at a bus stop and not used their manners and asked him to move, would they do that if he was a white child with blonde hair and blue eyes? And not look straight through him? I describe my children as Black. If I asked Tony Blair what colour my children were - would he say white or mixed race? No. I often wonder - however, my point Tucker was that IR relationships arent frowned upon here, as much as this web site makes out it is in the USA.


You seem to know your shit though, Ill give you that!!!

 

Thats very true, Kinkygal. I might not know much about British politics but i do know that the main political parties are the Labor, Tories and recently, Lib Dems. The National Front and BNP are at the bottom of the scale and rarely get any support whatsoever. Not to say that there are no supporters of BNP but they amount to nothing considering what the other parties get in account of votes. Everybody knows what they stand for and most people try to do away with them. I can guarantee you that if they were in the United States, they'd be huge. Of course due to the larger population but also due to the supremacists here. The Republicans do not wear white robes and lynch people(at least anymore) but their reputation in terms of race relations are not so stellar to say the least. Yet they are the dominant party in the United States as of this moment. Go figure.

Racial attitudes are far much better in the UK than the US. In fact, i'd say the UK is the most racially progressive country in the whole of Europe. Of course, i know that there are still racist attitudes, hate crimes and all of that stuff but it also is very tolerant and IR dating is not much of a big deal there as it is here. You do not have racist groups openly rallying up and down the place. The KKK, despite their figuratively small amount and presence today, still hold rallies across cities in the USA and have their conventions. They have one planned for Labor Day which is supposedly to "discuss white unity between Northerners and Southerners". Imagine that!!!! Openly bigoted fools advocating hate and they are being allowed. But if you tell that to the government, they come up with the same old "Freedom of Speech" BS. Again, go figure.

Even Canadians say the same thing that Brits say to us in terms of comparisons. Maybe those of us interested in IR should go to Canada. There are just as many WW there interested in black men, and no, they do not have signs written on their heads that illustrate so. The racial tolerance there is on a high. Anyone dates who they like without getting stares from anyone. Eventually, all the BM would go to Canada. :lol:

 

Here's my own personal perspective. I think that white people and black people are pitted against each other for some strange reason. It almost seems like a Lakers-Celtics rivalry or something. (for anyone who hasn't been watching basketball for the past couple years, disregard that last comment). I don't think that any person in the world is born racist. They're taught it. So the question is, whose doing the teaching and why are they teaching it?? My guess is that because whites and blacks historically haven't had good relationships with one another, some feel like they need to keep that rivalry going, or at least as long as they can. Women, jobs, houses, everything....it's all about that rivalry or fued between blacks and whites. I personally want to see an end to this kinda thing. I know that it sucks that i have to admit this, but i put forth way more effort trying to build relationships with whites than i do with latin people or jewish people or asian people or whatever. Not that i don't think they're important, it's just that i want to see that bridge closed so badly between blacks and whites.

We're not even all that different at all, and that's what makes it frustrating. Even though whites have all the resources and power, i wouldn't trade being an african american for the world. No matter how many slurs i receive, in my mind i know that i am the white man's equal. I don't think i'm better than him, but i sure as heck don't think he's better than me either. I think white men know this as well, but that darn rivalry won't let them admit to it you know.

 

Finally ..... a worthwhile discussion about race-relations with white women and black men both participating in it, without any back-and-forth pre-school bickering.