When will white Americans be accepted?

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by DJ_1985, Feb 26, 2006.

  1. DJ_1985

    DJ_1985 New Member

    Well lots of countries have infamous histories, the Haitian Massacre for example, and look at this http://www.internationalist.org/haitiandominicanpersecution0601.html
    You just have to be broadly learned in what goes on the world to not pin it on one group of people I guess.

    Latin America might as well have Jim Crow Laws because Afro-Latinos don't have access to many of the things that white or Mestizo Latinos do. Television for example, how many blacks do you see on Spanish television? Lots of the shows still condone Black Face actors which is very offensive. Or how many blacks do you see in the government or high profiled jobs? Latin America is segregated it's just not segregated officially. A lot of the racial barriers that have been broken in the U.S. have yet to be broken in Latin America.

    And while the KKK doesn't have an impact on the daily lives of blacks, Latin America's Death Squads kill blacks on a daily basis so I would be more afraid of them. And these are trained killers(retired policemen) mind you, hired to hunt down the poor, the thieves, and they say that in most cases being poor and black are synonomous.

    "The government agrees here too: according to the paper handed to the UN, the victims of death squads are almost without exception poor, black men, between 15 and 24 years old, accused of petty crime."
     
  2. DJ_1985

    DJ_1985 New Member

    Yes, the Diaspora is connected forever.
     
  3. Boll Onin

    Boll Onin Member

    all others were not overtly implicated in the years of mistreatment that is racism in America. That is why it is somewhat cool to roll into the hood with a woman other than white.
    Each hood is different though and strife between certain groups all depends on the history of the place they are at. But on the whole white Americans are generally getting no love or a cautious look over.

    i think the new battle ground is being drawn now between Latinos and blacks.
     
  4. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member




    How can THIS be a surprise, considering the racism in Latin America, especially with Dominicans? I got into an argument with a Dominican-American woman about the remark from Vicente Fox and while she so elouently referred to them as 'wetbacks', she also DEFENDED them about blacks at the same time.
     
  5. DJ_1985

    DJ_1985 New Member

    You mean black Americans and non-black Latinos? Yeah I guess. Mainly in California though, because of the gangs. There's already beef between black Latinos and non-black Latinos but that's more dealing with politics and inequalities, not drive bys.
     
  6. DJ_1985

    DJ_1985 New Member

    LOL, little in the world suprises me, it disappoints me rather.
     
  7. malachi

    malachi New Member

    is this right? slighty brown-skin or curly hair are sufficient reasons for a black person to believe that they have more in common with a non-white person? and being considered part of some evil and oppressive race that has assumedly no culture is sufficient reason for a black person not to "accept" such a person?

    i ask this because the last time i checked, non-whites were equally capable of racism and prejudice, if not more than whites.

    also when it comes to dating, i've found that black men, on average, get more positive reception from white women than any non-white women. even when a hispanic girl dates you, she is prone to believing she is doing black men a "service" by having "light-skinned kids" and having an "almost white woman". skin color and hair texture obsession runs quite rampant in the "latino" community (which isn't to say it doesn't exist among blacks)
     
  8. LA

    LA Well-Known Member

    I somewhat agree. I believe some non-black women feel like they're almost more "valuable" to a black man than a black woman could be.
     
  9. PeyBackTime8818

    PeyBackTime8818 New Member

    Exactly true. White and hispanic women who date black guys can be very arrogant in thinking they are some trophy or prize and that we are lucky to have them...My ex girl Tessa was that way and now me and her are through....
     
  10. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Well-Known Member

    these women don't realize that they are more of a liability to the BM their with than an asset....BM don't get "points" in a corporate boardroom full of WM for having a hot blonde or latina honey on their arm....blacks have some issues with color..but anytime you talk about it with other races and discuss their issues...they are quick to point out what goes on in the black community....BM have preferences but we like all colors...we tend not to discriminate as much...Latins and South Asians (Indians) have way more issues with color than anyone
     
  11. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    white men are accepted, they are now taking over WWBM. now mistress is showing us shots of her "White Man" in this IR site.
     
  12. malachi

    malachi New Member

    non-whites (and not-so "white" caucasians) are often very aware of their pecking order in society, some to the point of neurotic obsession.

    i'm not speaking about other bm, but i'd rather much deal with a white woman who thinks all "non-white babies are ugly" than some non-white woman who assigns the attractiveness of a baby by skin color and hair texture....
     
  13. malachi

    malachi New Member

    perhaps it's a attempt to redeem her assumed "market value" in the eyes of others, as we all know white women who only are interested in black men are considered to have low "market value" to other races of men....
     
  14. MistressB

    MistressB New Member

    I don't think humans have been considered to have 'market value' since around the time of slavery (apart from possibly in the porn industry) - are you advocating a return to that era?
     
  15. LA

    LA Well-Known Member

    He's not talking about a numerical value (e.g. you're worth $50). He means desirable. Saying some people feel that the white women who are "less desirable"(not so attractive, messed up teeth, overweight, things of that nature) to most men are usually the women that tend to go for black men because to some black men are considered "less desirable"(due to slavery, being dark-skinned, nappy hair, the image of being "ghetto" and "thug", etc) in many places.
     
  16. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    it has never abated, people are all apart of market value, with whites having more value than people of color--for instance money for white countries over africa; or for some believe the reason why they didnt save the blacks in New Orleans because they are black and are not valued as much. That is why they have ghettoes.

    we dont need to go back to slavery, Nazi germany is a resent one, apartheid is another, Jim crow is another, european colonialism of the world is another. women are valued less than men in many places today, there is human trafficking and modern day slavery as well
     
  17. LA

    LA Well-Known Member

    Sure there is. Immigrants are being smuggled into America all the time. Sometimes with drugs being smuggled right behind them. And there's constantly all kind of sweatshops having people in China build large portions of goods that we consume and purchase in America for 50-600% over their "actual" value.(e.g Air Jordans).
     
  18. MistressB

    MistressB New Member

    I know just what he means SoCal, but he is still talking rubbish. I just wished to turn his statement on his head to show its stupidity. For anyone's ego to survive, desirability of anyone should be internal and related to their character rather than external, otherwise you fall into a dangerous trap of relying upon other people's perceptions of you as reflections of your own ego.
     
  19. malachi

    malachi New Member

    you speak of "slavery" as if it were some unfortunate thing of a distant past. what does making t-shirts at the rate of 25 cents an hour in bangladesh or honduras constitute as?

    anyhow.
    market value.... desirability....

    similar things....

    and there is nothing i'm advocating, maybe for the fact that certain people will do whatever they think will "save face" and "look good in front of others"
     
  20. MistressB

    MistressB New Member

    No fair enough, although there would seem to be limited point to my attempts since it isn't going to impress the black men on here when I'm dating a white man!

    I would probably put that in the bracket of exploitation rather than slavery, since these people aren't technically being sold as possessions but exploited as capitalist tools. Not that I'm saying this is any better but it deserves a separate title.
     

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