Who would you pair yourself with?

I'm late to the discussion, as usual, but I actually agree with Andrae on this one (shock, horror!).

Growing up in a family where money was always short and always an issue, and seeing my parents in the financial situation they're in now where they don't own their own home and retirement is going to be very tough on them, I've seen first hand what life is like without financial security. While I have no complaints about my childhood, I feel very blessed for the life I've had, I want to make a better life for myself.

I focus on how I'm going to create that life for myself, and I have every intention of ensuring that I set myself up financially, but when it comes to finding a partner its definitely an attractive quality to find someone who has a good job, who displays evidence of being financially responsible, or is committed to working towards it in some way.

And I'm not talking big bucks or lavish lifestyles.. Just an income that when combined with mine will enable us to get some security behind us.

I judge every person on their individual merit, I've definitely never dismissed anyone for not having a good enough job. I know myself and I know love would always win out over money any day, but knowing a man I'm interested in is smart with money sets off a little comfort/reassurance switch somewhere in the back of my brain.

 

Same here, we need to get this topic back on track. Sad to hear your parents aren't able to own their own house. My dad quit his job in 2008 (didn't like it/the co-workers), and left the country to go to the Carribbean to pursue an alternative energy project, which hasn't gained much income, so pretty much my mom's income is the only income that's keeping us afloat. We're also dealing with high gas prices and an persistent economic recession that's still here in the United States and across the world. That's part of the reason I'm at a community college also. Everyone across the board is making less money and has to work harder for it. It is also uneven racially. I remember reading something that said the unemployment rate for whites was 9% and for blacks it was 15.7%, so that's an additional thing to think about. That's why I'm really hoping Obama gets re-elected, otherwise if a Republican wins in 2012, a global economic collapse is going to occur because of policies that they will implement. A Republican running in 2012 is basically another George Bush style person with a different face and name. I'm taking Econ 101 at school right now, the teacher is a liberal WM, he knows what he's talking about.

 

lippy needs to know your secret then because i would have never guessed that you came from a family without wealth...if you don't mind my asking, how are you able to travel around the world and not work...if you do mind then don't answer...i just remember you saying in another thread that you are living at home and traveling...i would love to be able to do that and actually hope to be doing that as soon as my son goes off to college...

 

I spent the last two years working in a very isolated part of the country... I was on a good wage with bonuses and I had very few living expenses or things to spend my money on. That contract finished in December and I moved in with my parents while I was preparing to go overseas. So yes, I've traveled a lot in the last year and it's been wonderful to have been able to do so! But I've funded every cent of it myself. After this next trip I need to buckle down again and start earning some more money.

 

good for you! as far as your parents not owning a home...i'm not sure what that equates to in australia vs. the usa but many people have lost their homes here or are upside down on a mortgage...some will never actually own the home...i always say that i am renting from the bank because until it is completely paid for i don't really own it...alot of expenses come with owning a home and there are days where i wish i was back apt living...hopefully your parents will find a place that they can afford to live during their retirement...my parents are looking to get out from under their homes...they want to really scale back and live in a community that will offer them some social opportunities with other retirees

 

Yeah, I guess a lot of people in Australia, by the time they're at my parents age, have finished paying their mortgage and therefore have a major reprise on the monthly living expenses, making retirement somewhat easier... I honestly don't know what they'll do when the time comes that they can't work anymore because the government pension certainly won't allow for much... it's a very real problem that one day relatively soon they will be, essentially, homeless. And in all likelihood, I will probably end up taking it upon myself to provide for them to a certain extent. Even more reason to make sure I'm in the financial position to do so!

 

Hey lippy, what country are you in? Are you in Russia, Australia, France, Canada or England? I know some of those countries have universal health care, perhaps college expenses are different in other countries also.

 

usa...

 

Thats common sense

Younger women = status hungry (i.e you dont have to be wealthy to have a high status, therefore the act of BEING an ALPHA MALE of whatever affiliation that maintain your busy-ness is very attractive to younger women. But on the same note,a true alpha male, will gradually employ a "movement" towards "riches" inevitably. Most alpha males start at the bottom of the barrel and work their way up in their divine dream. the character construction and manifestation of an alpha male is what many younger women find attractive)

Older women = money hungry (i.e if you are stable financially, they will find you attractive whether you are an alpha,,beta or omega. Thats why all these "geeks" suddenly land women as they get older, and all these older women find computer "geek" students more attractive than "rap" enthusiast (wanna be rapper))

So yes, money is imperative when it comes to older women, so much so that its not even an argument. You cant be broke, with no skills, no drive, no hope and expect to be sexy to younger or older women alike. You cant cease the act of "personal elevation"/expectation and expect sexy women to be all over you unless you look like tyson beckford (though, im sure even tyson beckford would drop in exponential proportions and levels if he was a no-dream-having-goalesss-education lacking-maintainance worker at costco).

Remember, only "idiotic" men stop living their life with utmost passion while maintaining high expectations of dating sexxiest bitches ,who will in turn fall inlove with "their passionless asses" and desire to "save" them from their "so called life".

 

Hey Jordan you could've responded to Andre's last point, this one:

So I'm guessing by Andre's logic you could have a job at a fast food restaurant, or be a custodian at a facility and a woman wouldn't have a problem with that?

 

Well, call me crazy but I don't think that women are the only people who feel that way.

So yes, self-sufficiency is imperative when it comes to women of any age, so much so that its not even an argument. You cant be broke, with no skills, no drive, no hope and expect to be with a man who's confident and self-sufficient. You cant cease the act of "personal elevation"/expectation and expect self-sufficient and confident man to be all over you unless you look like Insert current "it girl" of your choice(though, im sure even the "it girl" would drop in exponential proportions and levels if she was a no-dream-having-goalesss-education lacking-maintainance worker at costco).

But, as I said, that's just me. Maybe other men are different.

 

Andrae, why'd you go dragging my name back into this when I told you earlier that I understood your point, but that in the beginning it was REALLY hard to tell if you were stirring up shit or not? Until you said something, I didn't know. I believe Tam said as much. Instead of posting back here again, I just left.

But dude... the way you come across sometimes is harsh, and you end up sounding like you're coming way out of left field instead of taking the time to craft a statement that adequately reflects what you're trying to say. That's why a bunch of us got fired up...we could've avoided that misunderstanding from the beginning!

I love ya, man, but sometimes you really make me want to shank you. lol

 

Don't talk about it nips bring it

 

I'm loving you right now Whiks

 

what is your cut-off for younger vs older females?
Your deduction of older women - money is imperative - does not make any sense. Thats when women more so than when they are younger are looking for stability that is not measured in money. More often, they have established themselves so money isn't as much of an issue as it is when you are younger and have none. But your young so your view means very little. Most _people_ learn as they grow older and find that other things than physical appearance and money define a good mate.
I give you 15 years and then you can speak on the issue.

No money doesn't equal no drive etc. btw, Mr superficial - Shit actually happens in peoples life that may put you in the "no money zone" that has no reflection on your drive etc. If you have no money and live in your mothers basement at 40, well yeah - thats an issue, but probably more so due to the living in "my mothers basement" rather on the lack of money.

Yes, since I known ya on here for almost 2 years, I take most of it as written on purpose to be controversial as usual.


Your not on the money - pun intended.
:smt111

 

I sort of mean the best for me Andrae (not what everyone would consider the best), if I mean anything at all TBH I was more highlighting the fact that no one had paired anyone with themselves.

Anyone who tries to drag this thread into meaningful coversation needs perspective, It's just a laugh and no one should take it serious (I am certainly not) everyones had a laughectomy lately. :smt085

 

Sometimes, it explains how the market selects its winners and pays its rewards.

What of if we tax people a little, pool it, and do some redistribution so good moral values that benefit society is encouraged? Maybe then people would not feel entitled, or believe they deserve the best.

On a more serious note, I can say life in a city is a dog eat dog existence. The city selects its survivors on their ability to weather the stresses, and many residents lack the generational ties that make for stable communities and relationships, the city-place is so dynamic, that relationships are formed, and relationships are extinguished, I mean people come to the city , and people go out of it.

When people are taken out of the mental construction that the city is built on, you notice changes in their behaviour. It explains in part why life in prisons are so similar in a sense to the city, and why prison life is different from what obtains in the outside world. Most times people are conditioned by how they live and where they live.

If you live in a concrete jungle where class distinction differ according to zip/postal codes, where communities and bonds are dissolved by gentrification, then it is not hard to expect human beings to be conditioned by their daily life , paying the rent, looking out for themselves.

It is not strictly about women per se, but how city life creates succession of desires in people that covets status and wealth. Relocation is always an option when you resent the values that a city breeds.

 

Very interesting perspective Naija. Never looked at it that way. But as we become more and more globalized is simply moving to avoid the behavior an option anymore?

 

To breakdown BMJ's point. The manager at Enterprise Car Rental where they require a college education .doesn't have the same option of women that the head of radiology at Columbia Hospital has.
I don't get how you guys dismiss success as a major turn on for women. I know some of the women on here don't care but to act like most women don't care is so weird to me.

 

Whik thanks for your honesty and i'd rep you but this bs every 24 hour rep thing won't let. I really hate this new system.