1. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    That's what I meant, since black women were given higher priority than black men, even during the European Slave Trade, in fact, some of them have earned their freedom from the massa, and have gone into business, political, and financial careers afterwards, but their freedoms were still so very limited...

    and, most of them weren't out in the fields like the men were.

    http://www.nathanielturner.com/negrowasherwoman.htm

    http://issues-views.com/index.php?print=1&article=1091

    http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm

    http://www.loyno.edu/history/journal/1985-6/doherty.htm

    This link is a follow-up from the slave trade:

    http://etext.virginia.edu/harlem/McDDoubF.html



    And: http://seacoastnh.com/blackhistory/blacks1.html





    Black men weren't given all the freedoms that black women were in those days (not even close) in fact, as a result of black women gaining their earning power back then as well as mastery over the family and household when emanicpated.
     
  2. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    sardonic: actually black men in slavery were valued much more than black women. black men throughout the history of slavery bought their freedom from slavery, from the Barbour of Natchez, the William Still, to many of the black men in Reconstruction Congress
     
  3. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Most of that was AFTER black women were granted those rights, tuck. Back then, black men have to have been proven worthy of freedom like black women were. Some of the massas even guaranteed the freedom of the black women as slaves when/if they were to pass away.
     
  4. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    only black men were given the vote in the 1800s, black and white women had to wait til 1920.

    that is not the record in history. read "Been in the Storm So Long " By Leon Litwack

    E. Franklin Frazier is great too. John Blassingame and Eugene Genovese.

    Women were often held because they were the breeders. but they were less valuable than a field worker
     
  5. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    And, I'll bet that the massa did all the breeding on his own and made sure of it...

    but he never counted on his 'trophy woman' getting pregnant by the slave men on her own either. :lol:
     
  6. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    there was that happening too, but not to the same degree as the breeding between the slaves who supplied a steady crop of new slaves, thats why they were so valuable
     
  7. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    justhereaminute: i agree with you. It is so sad. If the black community was like my granddad and grandmoms, where we respected one another, did for ourselves and didnt play the victim, I think black men would be more responsible.

    they dont make many women like Condi Rice so I didnt have a chance to date many black women. most that i met even successful ones thought it was still good to want the government to support us, when we should be doing for ourselves and standing in our churches with the moral high ground. but the liberals and the 60s changed that for so many black men that most arent good for much. and I weep for the loss of the black community I grew up in
     
  8. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Sadly, the both of you are right. A LOT of white men feel that black women aren't entitled to, nor should have affections for us, and would rather go out to gay clubs/ underground cults and sodomize one another, than to lay down with a black woman (even if they don't want white women, which is more so than YOU realize), unless she's whore, otherwise, many of these racist retards would never go through with it openly.
     
  9. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    ????? lost there buddy
     
  10. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    You'd be surprised how many white men are having sex with black prostitutes and still living, what you call '"DL" about their sexuality.
     
  11. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    not following, but i am sure the first part is true. dont know what it has to do with the topic my brotha
     
  12. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    I know it was off-topic, but I just added it to the discussion since the thread went off-topic anyway.
     
  13. jxsilicon9

    jxsilicon9 Active Member

    I'm not really surprised. I use to own a asset protection company. And you wouldn't believe how many guys wanted us to help them with their prostitution bills. There were bills that went up to $100k on just high class hookers.
     
  14. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    uggh that is gross.
     
  15. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    It is sick
     
  16. jxsilicon9

    jxsilicon9 Active Member

    Gross but profitable.
     
  17. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    so sick, profitable is sick
     
  18. jxsilicon9

    jxsilicon9 Active Member

    Profitable is capitalism. What other people do what their money isn't my concern.
     
  19. tuckerreed

    tuckerreed New Member

    it is mine, thats why I oppose slavery, prostitution, drug trafficking, murdering for money or at all, buying up all the property and not allowing poorer people the option of housing. It is definitely my concern
     
  20. jxsilicon9

    jxsilicon9 Active Member

    I'm concerned about murdering for money,drugs,etc. But prostitution is only the business of the two people involved. Telling people who they can and can't have sex with for what. Thats going to far by the government.
     

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