WW what do you think of all the topics on BW?

Are you kidding me? So blacks should abdicate republicans/conservatives of any blame and vote for them? The reason republicans lost blacks votes in the first place is because they supported racist ideologies. Democrats supported civil rights. The truth of the matter is both parties screwed blacks. But republicans lost alot of blacks when they didn't support civil rights. And under Regan the national debt rose with his increased spending. Republicans held the presidency for years before Bill Clinton. And they did nothing to get blacks to vote for them.Bill clinton set records with a good economy and help end alot of bloodshed overseas with the IRA and Yugoslavia. Bill Clinton did more for blacks thats why he was respected.But he also had his failures.

What I'm trying to say is both republicans and democrats see blacks as people they can use. I'm always for blacks taking responsibility for their own causes. But both parties are corrupt,racist bastards. Also Ken Mehlman has talked with groups like the NAACP. But thats all he has done.Actions speak louder then words. Blacks have been changing for a while now. But if you think trading democrats for republicans is helping.In reality thats just changing one massa for another. But the only reason democrats ever got black support was because of the civil rights movement which had huge effects. But now that is changing. Now vouchers is an issue that would be somewhat hard to take sides on. For one it won't educate every minority kid,there isn't enough. On the other hand it will help poor kids get a better education. It won't solve the huge underlining problem of failing schools but provide a few kids a better education.

 

what did Bill Clinton do? the economy was set by the contract with america, with the republican congress, with over inflated tech stocks that crashed in the being of the 2000s. Yugoslavia and the IRA have nothing to do with Black people and Clinton didnt do much there or in the IRA negotiations.

you dont seem to know the US history, blacks didnt leave the republicans over race--as I have given you the history. Blacks left the party over issues of the New Deal(nothing racist in that) and they liked Jack Kennedy. It was the REpublican party that voted and passed the Civil Rights Bill of 64 that Democrats like Senator KKK Byrd filibustered. It was the Democrats who were the party of the racists that is a fact. it was Nixon who gave blacks Affirmative Action--bad mistake.

So I dont know what racist act lead the blacks away from the party. Democrats bought black votes with war on poverty, however the welfare system and public housing proved to be only new shackles on the feet of black people, esp dividing the black family. That is why the Democratic party is viewed as the modern day plantation. blacks do the work, voting in white liberals, who do nothing for them for 4 years and pit them against their own interests--self reliance, strong families, strong churches and communities, valuing education, hard work, morals--just to vote for their pocketbooks--crumbs from the welfare state.

before the social programs black men worked, even though they faced white hostility, lack of access to education and no safety net, black men worked hard pulling themselves up by working in jobs they are too cool and lazy to do now and we have to hire mexicans to do. we think we should have an escalade and cool crib but we dont know that we have to start at the bottom and work our way up, sometimes two jobs to save, educate ourselves and families.

the republicans didnt make street culture and ghetto culture the norm for black males. they didnt make the violence of that culture cool, they didnt put drugs in the hands of black men. the 60s liberal white culture ws the one that worshipped the drug culture, the lazy hippy ideals, the selfish ME ideology. It was conservative black mothers and fathers, grandmothers and fathers who were trying to keep us off the streets, from shaking our rumps in the street, from cursing and running the streets from doing drugs.

and worshipping Bill Clinton as the "first Black President" was the biggest insult of all. Nixon did more for black folk than Clinton ever did. Kennedy did NOTHING for black folk, black folk forced him to make changes. Hoover was a loyal Democrat til the day he died. Clinton is recognized as the first black president for his cheating and sexual promiscuity. Is that what people want in an leader? then have him, but dont cry when 20 years from the now the statistics of black life has not changed for the better, but gotten worse, more coarse, more out of hand.

Hmmm black on black crime, drop out rates, incarceration rates, education and health statistics. I will take pre integration, black Self reliance and the Republicans anyday.

but your choice is yours, i can only vote my own interest and for those whom I love.

 

To my friends brownie and justhereaminute. a good history lesson for my good sistahs--you both have taught me so much and I want to share a bit with yall.

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Rev Perryman fights for the right to bring truth in dark places

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Bill Clinton related to black people on a more personal level and even cultural. Thats why some would call him the first black president. Bill Clinton also helped the working class with things like the medical leave act. President Johnson signed in the civil rights act. And Kennedy also helped with civil rights. Why do you think most racists like Strom Thurmond left the democrats and became Republican? And actually the omnibus act lowered federal deficit with no support from republicans. And if I was going to say what caused more problems for the black community. Drugs flooding the neighborhood or social programs? I would say drugs flooding the black neighborhoods. The government is primarily responsible for drugs flooding the black community. Like I said before they are both racist parties and thats why I don't support them. That reason and alot of others also.

 

liberal whites who worship the drug culture flooded the ghettos with drugs and, President Johnson was only able to sign the civil rights act into law was because of the Republican Congress. Thats how the process works. Kennedy did nothing, he was forced by the Civil Rights movement to act, begged by MLK Jr.

 

And South American contra guerillas backed by CIA helped to flood black US neighborhoods with drugs. Which helped lower the cost and make it wildly distributable in black neighborhoods. Search for contra guerrillas run by CIA. There are plenty of books,articles,etc on the subject.

President Johnson helped push the bill through. The bill was voted in by big portions of both parties. Kennedy helped Martin Luther King but MLK never begged him. President Kennedy started talking about racial discrimination during his campaign. Democrats sacrificed the southern vote to back civil rights and they never got it back.

 

To be fair to both parties. Both parties have pretty much switched around since their origination. The democrats were originally like the republicans are today. And now the republicans are like what the democrats were back in the day. Its pretty crazy. Democrats lost the South who were their original voters. And Republicans lost blacks who were their original voters.

 

i lived in Honduras so I know all about the contras. Kennedy and Johnson backed insurgents in vietnam and started and escalated the vietnam war, so, they are equally guilty. The drug growth is due to a destructive personal ethos, a shift of blacks from conservative family and church oriented beliefs to liberal, anything goes philosphy of the late 60s through the ME 70s, and the downturn of fun 80s-with the onset of AIDs, crack and destruction of the black community cohesiveness.

Nothing to do with the contras

 

What does Vietnam have to do with flooding the black community with drugs? So nothing is conservatives/republicans fault but liberals/democrats are responsible for everything? Why don't we just make republicans supreme rulers,so this country can become heaven on earth?

 

because heaven cant be on earth, because of original sin.

You were the one attcking the republicans without mentioning the history of the democratic party and its activities in slavery, jim crow, anti integration, lynching and keeping blacks down. It ws not until the 1960 election that blacks even moved to the dems, but the dems have not been the party of truly caring for the black man.

i think both parties have their issues, but the democrats are the worse thing to happen to the black family and since we started to vote for them we have gone down as a community.

 

I said they were both racist parties. And explained why a majority of blacks followed democrats. Each party has contributed to the destruction of black communities. Republicans will never win the majority black vote until civil rights are discussed.i agree that democrats are a horrible party for the black community. I want to see a new party split up the republican/democrat monopoly.

 

civil rights will only be discussed when blacks get involved, but they dont want to leave the plantation and stop putting their eggs in one basket

 

homelessness is out of control because of the welfare state and liberal policies to allow people to sleep in the parks.

but as long as civil rights is cut as something the democrats did it will never change but tell the truth that it is the Republicans who pushed it through while dems filibustered civil right bill.

 

amen brownie


yes and the kennedys are democrats and got us into the war, but now do not want us fighting a war on terror.

so we fund wars, so do the russians, the french, the germans, the british, the chinese, the arab countries, the dictators in latin america and africa--so whats the point?

the french was benefiting from the Saddam regime. all the Europeans raped and butchered the African continent, the South America and Central America, and Asia. Vietnam was begun by colonialism by the french in vietnam. All of africa is the way it is because of Europe. the US was colonized, NOT by Americans, but by Europeans.

 

sho you right girl, gon girl

 

thats right girl. glad you are here. you can debate without making it personal or wanting to fight, very good character

 

check out hip hop republicans brownie

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its cool, nice blogs, nice info and groups and chats

 

same here

 

cool to know there is diversity in the black community and that we dont all think alike