Random Political comments...

[GFunk]

I didn't catch it, but I think there's a qualitative difference between picking out music that fires up your supporters and talking about something that you purport to be part of your character or personality. I bet he isn't even involved in music selection at his events. That would be like Sanders claiming that DMX was his favorite rapper or something.

That's what I initially thought. Bernie personally requesting "Where the Hood At?" seemed kinda odd. But at the same time, with the amount of high profile rappers voicing their support, I could see someone needing votes using that to appeal to a demographic.

 

[The Dark King]

That's what I initially thought. Bernie personally requesting "Where the Hood At?" seemed kinda odd. But at the same time, with the amount of high profile rappers voicing their support, I could see someone needing votes using that to appeal to a demographic.

His political persona has never been about pandering. He is literally the only one talking about things that affect people like you and me. The biggest problems with politics right now is your average citizen either looks at this shit like entertainment and focuses on ridiculous shit hot sauce and music selection before taking the time to really see what these people are actually talking about and their plans to get us there.

 

[Bookworm616]

Don't follow politics, but if Hillary's hotsauce comment caught a lot of shit, Bernie Sander's DMX entrance better catch even more shit for pandering and "racism".

The video was doctored:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7386067/bernie-sanders-dmx-where-the-hood-at-video-fake

His political persona has never been about pandering. He is literally the only one talking about things that affect people like you and me. The biggest problems with politics right now is your average citizen either looks at this shit like entertainment and focuses on ridiculous shit hot sauce and music selection before taking the time to really see what these people are actually talking about and their plans to get us there.

Sanders definitely doesn't pander for votes.

I think a lot of people called out Hillary for her hot sauce thing because when she was flat out asked if this was a way to pander for votes she "jokingly" replied: is it working?

 

[GFunk]

His political persona has never been about pandering. He is literally the only one talking about things that affect people like you and me. The biggest problems with politics right now is your average citizen either looks at this shit like entertainment and focuses on ridiculous shit hot sauce and music selection before taking the time to really see what these people are actually talking about and their plans to get us there.

I hope it isn't and that is does not become that way.

The video was doctored:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7386067/bernie-sanders-dmx-where-the-hood-at-video-fake



Sanders definitely doesn't pander for votes.

I think a lot of people called out Hillary for her hot sauce thing because when she was flat out asked if this was a way to pander for votes she "jokingly" replied: is it working?

That's good to hear.

Although, Hillary probably would've caught shit for the hot sauce comment, just not as much if she didn't say "is it working?"

 

[andreboba]

I feel like people shit on Hillary because it's the 'in thing' to do.

Her affection for hot sauce began in Arkansas as the wife of Governor Bill Clinton and there are stories from the 1990s(!!) about her jonez for spicy juice.

The problem however is most millennials don't remember the '90s so they think Beyonce invented the phrase 'I got hot sauce in my bag'.

The problem for Hillary is if Trump says he loves corn bread and fried chicken, no one cares.

If Bernie Sanders has DMX playing a campaign event, very few are annoyed by it.

Hillary has this infinite level of baggage associated with her that isn't grounded in reality.

People react to Hillary viscerally like Nixon was reincarnated from the dead.

That's why I can't wait for Hillary and Trump to debate.
I really think she's going to undress him in front of a national audience as an empty suit because Trump can't go skin deep on any policy issue.

Once that happens, IMO most Americans will realize Hillary might not be the most popular girl in school, but she's the right woman for the job of POTUS.

 

[The Dark King]

I feel like people shit on Hillary because it's the 'in thing' to do.

Her affection for hot sauce began in Arkansas as the wife of Governor Bill Clinton and there are stories from the 1990s(!!) about her jonez for spicy juice.

The problem however is most millennials don't remember the '90s so they think Beyonce invented the phrase 'I got hot sauce in my bag'.

The problem for Hillary is if Trump says he loves corn bread and fried chicken, no one cares.

If Bernie Sanders has DMX playing a campaign event, very few are annoyed by it.

Hillary has this infinite level of baggage associated with her that isn't grounded in reality.

People react to Hillary viscerally like Nixon was reincarnated from the dead.

That's why I can't wait for Hillary and Trump to debate.
I really think she's going to undress him in front of a national audience as an empty suit because Trump can't go skin deep on any policy issue.

Once that happens, IMO most Americans will realize Hillary might not be the most popular girl in school, but she's the right woman for the job of POTUS.

You think these dummies care about him being exposed? They just want to be entertained and she is far from the right person for the job. She's all we're left with.

 

[Bookworm616]

I feel like people shit on Hillary because it's the 'in thing' to do.

Her affection for hot sauce began in Arkansas as the wife of Governor Bill Clinton and there are stories from the 1990s(!!) about her jonez for spicy juice.

The problem however is most millennials don't remember the '90s so they think Beyonce invented the phrase 'I got hot sauce in my bag'.

The problem for Hillary is if Trump says he loves corn bread and fried chicken, no one cares.

If Bernie Sanders has DMX playing a campaign event, very few are annoyed by it.

Hillary has this infinite level of baggage associated with her that isn't grounded in reality.

People react to Hillary viscerally like Nixon was reincarnated from the dead.

That's why I can't wait for Hillary and Trump to debate.
I really think she's going to undress him in front of a national audience as an empty suit because Trump can't go skin deep on any policy issue.

Once that happens, IMO most Americans will realize Hillary might not be the most popular girl in school, but she's the right woman for the job of POTUS.

I could give a crap if she keeps hot sauce in her purse. But her "is it working" question was just so far out of line. It shows that she will do and say absolutely anything if she thinks it will get her votes.

With any luck, Hillary will only be debating Trump from behind bars. The scandals run too deep with that duo (Bill and Hillary).

 

[GFunk]

I could give a crap if she keeps hot sauce in her purse. But her "is it working" question was just so far out of line. It shows that she will do and say absolutely anything if she thinks it will get her votes.

With any luck, Hillary will only be debating Trump from behind bars. The scandals run too deep with that duo (Bill and Hillary).

The radio host somewhat set her up for the whole hotsauce controversy. While the "is it working" thing was out of line for someone in her position, she was trying to be funny. Charlemagne(the radio host) brought up the question of pandering and Hillary responded with hotsauce. She may try to pander to people in other instances, but this one is just reaching. Charlemegne is well known for instigating and stirring up controversy. It's his job.

 

[The Dark King]

The radio host somewhat set her up for the whole hotsauce controversy. While the "is it working" thing was out of line for someone in her position, she was trying to be funny. Charlemagne(the radio host) brought up the question of pandering and Hillary responded with hotsauce. She may try to pander to people in other instances, but this one is just reaching. Charlemegne is well known for instigating and stirring up controversy. It's his job.

Yeah but that shit was clear as day though fam. It's very telling of how she sees us. We aren't even people to them.

 

[GFunk]

Yeah but that shit was clear as day though fam. It's very telling of how she sees us. We aren't even people to them.

When you reach a certain level of power, you're just a number. Doesn't matter what political side they're on.

 

[andreboba]

I could give a crap if she keeps hot sauce in her purse. But her "is it working" question was just so far out of line. It shows that she will do and say absolutely anything if she thinks it will get her votes.

With any luck, Hillary will only be debating Trump from behind bars. The scandals run too deep with that duo (Bill and Hillary).

Be serious.

In jail for what??
What has she done as Secretary of State or otherwise that rises to the level of a felony crime???

And don't say some phony quid pro quo bribes to the Clinton foundation for some unknown favorable policy decisions by the State department.

Trump couldn't get an outhouse built in NYC or one of his failed casinos in LV and Atlantic City without cutting a deal with mobbed up union construction.

If the IRS and the Justice Department really put Trump's past business dealings under a microscope he'd probably have to leave the country to avoid prosecution.:smt003

The man is intellectually lazy.
He's already said he wants a VP who can handle the day to day responsibilities of the Oval Office like a corporate COO so Trump can serve in a more chairman of the board role.
WTF????

You know the last POTUS who preferred a hand's off managerial style of governance so others could make decisions for him on the tough issues he didn't understand.??

George W. Bush.:-(


What presidential candidate tells you going into a general election that he's really trying not to work that hard at one of the most important jobs in the world???

When your campaign manager says running for President is just one big reality TV show suggesting it's all entertainment and nothing is real, what the Trump campaign is really trying to tell voters is that the man shouldn't be within 100 feet of the Oval Office.

What's hilarious to me is how Republicans are so quick to jump on a candidate for changing their views on an issue during a campaign and call them a flip-flopper.

Trump is such a pathological liar that he changes his mind on issues multiple times in a DAY.

He has no core principles. He stands for nothing meaningful except himself.
And worst of all he knows very little about the issues affecting the country and how to fix them.

The problem in this country isn't jobs, it's wage stagnation.
How is Trump going to convince corporations to pay their employees more money???lol

I can't wait until Hillary and Trump are in a debate and Trump tries to position himself to the left of her, as if he's the standard bearer for the Bernie Sanders campaign.

Trump could duck the tough policy questions in a debate with 8 other candidates onstage.

There's no hiding in a one on one debate.

 

[orejon4]

I feel like people shit on Hillary because it's the 'in thing' to do.

Her affection for hot sauce began in Arkansas as the wife of Governor Bill Clinton and there are stories from the 1990s(!!) about her jonez for spicy juice.

The problem however is most millennials don't remember the '90s so they think Beyonce invented the phrase 'I got hot sauce in my bag'.

The problem for Hillary is if Trump says he loves corn bread and fried chicken, no one cares.

If Bernie Sanders has DMX playing a campaign event, very few are annoyed by it.

Hillary has this infinite level of baggage associated with her that isn't grounded in reality.

People react to Hillary viscerally like Nixon was reincarnated from the dead.

That's why I can't wait for Hillary and Trump to debate.
I really think she's going to undress him in front of a national audience as an empty suit because Trump can't go skin deep on any policy issue.

Once that happens, IMO most Americans will realize Hillary might not be the most popular girl in school, but she's the right woman for the job of POTUS.

I don't think Clinton's intellectual superiority will help her defeat Trump. His very appeal is built around jingoism and great nation chauvinism. Trump is going to make her intellect a grounds for further distrust by appealing to the US' deep-rooted anti-intellectualism.

 

[The Dark King]

I don't think Clinton's intellectual superiority will help her defeat Trump. His very appeal is built around jingoism and great nation chauvinism. Trump is going to make her intellect a grounds for further distrust by appealing to the US' deep-rooted anti-intellectualism.

Exactly. He's tapped into something we as a country choose to ignore. This shit was built on racism and will go down because of it. His xenophobic superiority complex appeals to disenfranchised whites and the saddest thing about this is that people are so incredibly fed up with establishment politics they will vote against all rationale, against their own interest just for something different. Even if that different is loud ridiculous and completely lacking in facts or reason.
We're done as a country because mark my words he will land in landslide the country never thought possible. He'll get the popular vote and destroy Hillary in the electoral college simply based on so much heavy mistrust.
Those who agree with Trump will be out in full force and those who are democratic but can't stomach the thought of either one of them are going to stay home. Democratic voter turnout will be the lowest in 40 years.
Say what you will about low IQ conservatives what they lack in knowledge they make up for in stone cold conviction, liberals are soft as fuck and refuse to really stand up for anything progressive if it's the slightest bit inconvenient or hard.
This country is going to get exactly the leader we deserve, no one is innocent here and we're all going to reap this bs.

 

[samson1701]

Exactly. He's tapped into something we as a country choose to ignore. This shit was built on racism and will go down because of it. His xenophobic superiority complex appeals to disenfranchised whites and the saddest thing about this is that people are so incredibly fed up with establishment politics they will vote against all rationale, against their own interest just for something different. Even if that different is loud ridiculous and completely lacking in facts or reason.
We're done as a country because mark my words he will land in landslide the country never thought possible. He'll get the popular vote and destroy Hillary in the electoral college simply based on so much heavy mistrust.
Those who agree with Trump will be out in full force and those who are democratic but can't stomach the thought of either one of them are going to stay home. Democratic voter turnout will be the lowest in 40 years.
Say what you will about low IQ conservatives what they lack in knowledge they make up for in stone cold conviction, liberals are soft as fuck and refuse to really stand up for anything progressive if it's the slightest bit inconvenient or hard.
This country is going to get exactly the leader we deserve, no one is innocent here and we're all going to reap this bs.

Bruh ... the realist shit I've read all year. Somebody give him some reps, cause I can't.

 

[andreboba]

The electoral math just isn't there for Trump to win.

Trump can't win NY. California. Florida. Ohio. PA. Virginia.

And he probably loses Texas and Arizona too.

That's the election.

Trump took a piss on the hispanic electorate and because of that I believe we'll have the highest hispanic voter turnout this election in U.S. history.
That's why Texas is in play for the Dems.

I know people are afraid of the potential angry White male vote, but there just aren't enough of those people to swing a general election.

People like to point out the number of supporters who showed up for Trump's rallies, but they were nothing compared to Bernie.
And Bernie won't win his party's presidential nomination.

The media has tried to make it seem like this is going to be a close election between Trump and Hillary because that narrative gets ratings.

However the numbers aren't there for the GOP.

If they couldn't do it in 2012, what makes people think they can in 2016?
You're telling me the angry White vote is angrier now than they were when Obama was running for his second term?
Not likely.

If there's a landslide victory for any candidate the odds favor Hillary.

Any sane, non-partisan White vote given a choice between Hillary and Trump is going to choose Mrs. Clinton.

The debates are going to make Trump look like a Sarah Palin level intellect.

I don't think there's any way Trump takes these debates seriously and that's why he'll get exposed.


Democratic turnout won't be the lowest in almost half a century.
That's crazy.

You really think there are Dems who hate Hillary more than the potential of a Trump presidency, to the point they wouldn't vote at all??


Bernie is going to get his people in line.
He has no other choice.

 

[The Dark King]

The electoral math just isn't there for Trump to win.

Trump can't win NY. California. Florida. Ohio. PA. Virginia.

And he probably loses Texas and Arizona too.

That's the election.

Trump took a piss on the hispanic electorate and because of that I believe we'll have the highest hispanic voter turnout this election in U.S. history.
That's why Texas is in play for the Dems.

I know people are afraid of the potential angry White male vote, but there just aren't enough of those people to swing a general election.

People like to point out the number of supporters who showed up for Trump's rallies, but they were nothing compared to Bernie.
And Bernie won't win his party's presidential nomination.

The media has tried to make it seem like this is going to be a close election between Trump and Hillary because that narrative gets ratings.

However the numbers aren't there for the GOP.

If they couldn't do it in 2012, what makes people think they can in 2016?
You're telling me the angry White vote is angrier now than they were when Obama was running for his second term?
Not likely.

If there's a landslide victory for any candidate the odds favor Hillary.

Any sane, non-partisan White vote given a choice between Hillary and Trump is going to choose Mrs. Clinton.

The debates are going to make Trump look like a Sarah Palin level intellect.

I don't think there's any way Trump takes these debates seriously and that's why he'll get exposed.


Democratic turnout won't be the lowest in almost half a century.
That's crazy.

You really think there are Dems who hate Hillary more than the potential of a Trump presidency, to the point they wouldn't vote at all??


Bernie is going to get his people in line.
He has no other choice.

I think you're being very optimistic and I truly hope you're right but from everything I've seen this shit won't pan out for Democrats.

For one you seriously underestimate how tired of establishment politics people are. It's down right sickening to most educated voters that their officials and representatives are bought and paid for. Those aware of this plain don't want another member of the establishment running our lives. That's why Trump appeals to so many people, right or wrong you know what you're getting, no surprises no bs. At some point ugly and disgusting truths are better than pretty lies. We are so conditioned to believe "they all lie", "they all tell us what we want to hear", "the president isn't even the leader any more just a puppet"
So when you have a candidate who you know can't be bought because he has his own money and he's addressing a lot of your deep seeded fears there's no wonder his support is so strong.
On the democratic side we are so split and its very evidenced by our primaries. Trump crushed all other Republicans absolutely no contest and that support is going to carry over into the general election. The same can't be said about democrats, Bernie Sanders addresses the issues most working class people are concerned about, he never panders, and he has a track record for voting for the actual people not corporations. I don't care how hardcore Democrat you've been in the past, those who support him are going to have a really hard time voting for Hilary if he loses. She's the personification of what's wrong with politics, she's bought and paid for (look at her campaign financing) and she didn't give two shits about the people until she saw it was popular with Bernie's crowd. She is the product of brand name recognition nothing more. And her problem is going to be people who were likely to vote for Bernie won't all just switch sides because she's all we have. Part of me wants to see this whole entire thing burn to the ground and hopefully we can start from scratch because right now it feels like a race between Mussolini and Hitler not a vote between Democrat and Republican.

 

[The Dark King]

Bruh ... the realist shit I've read all year. Somebody give him some reps, cause I can't.

Thanks fam

 

[Thump]

I think you're being very optimistic and I truly hope you're right but from everything I've seen this shit won't pan out for Democrats.

For one you seriously underestimate how tired of establishment politics people are. It's down right sickening to most educated voters that their officials and representatives are bought and paid for. Those aware of this plain don't want another member of the establishment running our lives. That's why Trump appeals to so many people, right or wrong you know what you're getting, no surprises no bs. At some point ugly and disgusting truths are better than pretty lies. We are so conditioned to believe "they all lie", "they all tell us what we want to hear", "the president isn't even the leader any more just a puppet"
So when you have a candidate who you know can't be bought because he has his own money and he's addressing a lot of your deep seeded fears there's no wonder his support is so strong.
On the democratic side we are so split and its very evidenced by our primaries. Trump crushed all other Republicans absolutely no contest and that support is going to carry over into the general election. The same can't be said about democrats, Bernie Sanders addresses the issues most working class people are concerned about, he never panders, and he has a track record for voting for the actual people not corporations. I don't care how hardcore Democrat you've been in the past, those who support him are going to have a really hard time voting for Hilary if he loses. She's the personification of what's wrong with politics, she's bought and paid for (look at her campaign financing) and she didn't give two shits about the people until she saw it was popular with Bernie's crowd. She is the product of brand name recognition nothing more. And her problem is going to be people who were likely to vote for Bernie won't all just switch sides because she's all we have. Part of me wants to see this whole entire thing burn to the ground and hopefully we can start from scratch because right now it feels like a race between Mussolini and Hitler not a vote between Democrat and Republican.

Well said, I'd rep you if I could.

 

[Bookworm616]

Be serious.

In jail for what??
What has she done as Secretary of State or otherwise that rises to the level of a felony crime???

And don't say some phony quid pro quo bribes to the Clinton foundation for some unknown favorable policy decisions by the State department.

Trump couldn't get an outhouse built in NYC or one of his failed casinos in LV and Atlantic City without cutting a deal with mobbed up union construction.

If the IRS and the Justice Department really put Trump's past business dealings under a microscope he'd probably have to leave the country to avoid prosecution.:smt003

The man is intellectually lazy.
He's already said he wants a VP who can handle the day to day responsibilities of the Oval Office like a corporate COO so Trump can serve in a more chairman of the board role.
WTF????

You know the last POTUS who preferred a hand's off managerial style of governance so others could make decisions for him on the tough issues he didn't understand.??

George W. Bush.:-(


What presidential candidate tells you going into a general election that he's really trying not to work that hard at one of the most important jobs in the world???

When your campaign manager says running for President is just one big reality TV show suggesting it's all entertainment and nothing is real, what the Trump campaign is really trying to tell voters is that the man shouldn't be within 100 feet of the Oval Office.

What's hilarious to me is how Republicans are so quick to jump on a candidate for changing their views on an issue during a campaign and call them a flip-flopper.

Trump is such a pathological liar that he changes his mind on issues multiple times in a DAY.

He has no core principles. He stands for nothing meaningful except himself.
And worst of all he knows very little about the issues affecting the country and how to fix them.

The problem in this country isn't jobs, it's wage stagnation.
How is Trump going to convince corporations to pay their employees more money???lol

I can't wait until Hillary and Trump are in a debate and Trump tries to position himself to the left of her, as if he's the standard bearer for the Bernie Sanders campaign.

Trump could duck the tough policy questions in a debate with 8 other candidates onstage.

There's no hiding in a one on one debate.

First of all, equating getting a building built in a city to taking "bribes" from foreign governments with a history of human rights violations and giving them MORE arms than your predecessor is not even in the same ballpark.

They are talking espionage charges for her and her aides:

Experts tell the Daily Caller the applicable sections are:

• Section 793, which applies to anyone who has been "entrusted" with information relating to the national defense, and to a federal official who "through gross negligence permits" information "to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, to be lost, stolen, abstracted or destroyed."

• Section 798, which applies to any government official who "knowingly and willfully communicates" information "to an unauthorized person."

• Section 1001, which addresses giving "false statements."

Additionally, Clinton and aides could allegedly be charged with a misdemeanor count under section 1924 — which was used against former CIA Director David Petraeus for sharing classified information with his female biographer and mistress, the Daily Caller reports.

"A federal prosecutor would naturally focus first on the most serious allegations: willfully transmitting or willfully retaining top secret and compartmented material using a private server system," retired Brig. Gen. Kenneth Bergquist, who served as an assistant attorney general at the Justice Department, tells the Daily Caller, citing both sections 793 and 798.

FBI veteran Ronald Hosko, who served as the bureau's assistant director for its criminal division until 2014, tells the Daily Caller section 793 would also be of interest to prosecutors.

"This certainly applies to those who would take classified materials and move it to an unauthorized server in an unauthorized location, in this case to her [Clinton's] house," he tells the Daily Caller.

Hosko notes when federal officials leave office, they sign documents that "in effects say, 'you can't take any state secrets with you.'"

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/hillary-clinton-aides-email-scandal-espionage-act/2016/04/06/id/722577 ​

 

[samson1701]

People are so caught up in the short term, they are not regognizing the long term effects of letting Trump win. Think about it. Trump gets to pick Supreme Court justices. Trump gets to stock lower court judges. Laws are built on precedent. Trump gets to dictate foreign policy. He has money tied up in the Middle East. You think he's going to do anything to piss them off? Trump is going to appoint heads of education. Two words will show you how that will work out; Trump University. Trump will dictate the direction of our energy policy. Bye, bye wind and solar subsidies.

If Trump wins because of these dumb ass working class voters faill to come out for Hillary, every fucked up thing that happens to them as a result of it, I will laugh at and laugh loudly. I'm soooooo tired of this country's general stuck on stupid, short term thinking, believe only what fits our narative, anit-intellectual way of doing things.

I'm going to be hiring someone soon. If I find out that person supports Trump or refuse to support Clinton because, "I just don't like her" or "She's evil" or any variation of the above, they will not get the job. I refuse to support thay way of thinking with my money. Yes, I know, I sound like a conservative. But, at least they know how to stick together and win elections for the greater good and expansion of their political ideology.