Random Political comments...

Haha..could you imagine living life as a ROBOT?? Parties telling you how to think ..AND LIVE. Tell you who should be your friend or not, like they killed someone.
That's why l like you Panni ( and Bookie)...because you're (both) open-minded on issues like me. You're a human first and see them and others through that prism.
You don't kiss ass, or pander, or seek brownie points based on some imaginary code. You don't seek the death of others based on some imaginary gender dominant system. We can see the other side and do acknowledge it, but some people are so damn STIFF, they refuse to.
Cheers mate. :freehug: ( Cause you said you drink beer! :)

That's already happening with the DNC. How many times have we all been told to "step in line" behind Hillary?

And this is only the beginning....
 
I'll bite. For one thing, she's much cozier with Wall Street banker types than I would like my preferred candidate to be. That's part of why I voted for Sanders even though I knew she would win Georgia. Her foreign policy is also a bit too hawkish for my tastes as I think that we need to spend less time in the Middle East but by this point, that ship has sailed.

This attitude, I don't understand at all. This is one of the MAIN reasons I will never vote for her.

Like Julian Assange has said, a Hillary presidency is a presidency of endless war.

Yes, the Middle East is screwed up, but there are still some parts that AREN'T and she wants to go in and make things worse. WORSE. WTF??

No. No. NO.

Her foreign policy is not one that I want to hang my daughter's future on....
 
This attitude, I don't understand at all. This is one of the MAIN reasons I will never vote for her.

Like Julian Assange has said, a Hillary presidency is a presidency of endless war.

Yes, the Middle East is screwed up, but there are still some parts that AREN'T and she wants to go in and make things worse. WORSE. WTF??

No. No. NO.

Her foreign policy is not one that I want to hang my daughter's future on....

So will you be voting trump?
If not, who will you be voting for?
 
Same tired Hillary paranoia BS from the Right that shits on the facts.
As a conservative, which one do you most have a problem with....a retired Secretary of State receiving on average $225,000 for paid speeches, or that she gave a handful of speeches to big investment banks??

It's the abject HYPOCRISY of Republicans that turns my stomach.

All prominent, well known politicians have made millions after leaving office on the speech circuit.

But what really pisses me off is a political party who's been bought and sold by Wall Street for decades has the nerve to act like ANY association nowadays with a major investment bank is a crime against humanity.

Real question Bookworm. Do you think the big investment banks should be broken up??
Yes or no.

Again, per CNN Hillary Clinton gave 92 speeches between 2013 and 2015 at a standard fee of $225K, and ONLY EIGHT of those 92 speeches were to big Wall Street banks, for which she earned $1.8 mil.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/20/news/economy/hillary-clinton-goldman-sachs/

It's interesting to me conservatives only began to realize our economic system is corrupt when they can paint a liberal as the villain.

All the federal banking rules and regulations that have been written by D.C. lobbyists to tilt the scales have been brokered and written into law at the direction of republican lawmakers since the 1980s.

The GOP disproportionally has been the party of Wall Street for decades, and I never heard shit from any conservative they had a problem with this arrangement.


I'll keep asking the same question to conservatives who vote republican; what the hell has the GOP ever done for you???

Democrats an give you a laundry list of policy accomplishments Democratic politicians have achieved for their constituents.

But the GOP's base voter has always been the rich and powerful.
The working class republicans have always been the useful idiots for the GOP.

I am an Independent. But it's always like that with democrats. If you hate a democrat politician that means you're a Republican.

Unlike most of the rest of the people on this forum, when I vote for a person, I vote for what I feel he/she can will accomplish that will not only help me, but help the majority of people like me. I've voted for democrats. I've voted for republicans.

Wall Street is too big and powerful and needs to be reined in. It won't be, because it's too big and powerful.

It's sickening how much power they yield.

And the hypocrisy of the left of saying it's no big deal that Hillary made speeches to Wall Street and refuses to release the transcripts of those speeches is unreal to me. That's all I hear is how republicans are for the rich and powerful.

Wake up. So are the democrats!!!

And after the shenanigans the DNC pulled this year, not one democrat is getting my vote in November. They can all go to hell for destroying our democratic process.

I will NOT condone what happened by voting for any one of them. I will NOT reward their behavior by voting for any of them.

At least the Republicans were openly trying to get rid of Trump and doing it out in the open and not colluding in emails. I guess they have something to learn from the Democrats in 4 years. :smt011
 
I'll bite. For one thing, she's much cozier with Wall Street banker types than I would like my preferred candidate to be. That's part of why I voted for Sanders even though I knew she would win Georgia. Her foreign policy is also a bit too hawkish for my tastes as I think that we need to spend less time in the Middle East but by this point, that ship has sailed.

And she's an extremely poor decision maker. She may have been the Secretary of State, but that doesn't mean she made great decisions.

She did not. And we could expect more of the same if she becomes president. Which is extremely scary to me.

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/hillary-clintons-foreign-policy-performance-the-worst-ever-16436
 
I am an Independent. But it's always like that with democrats. If you hate a democrat politician that means you're a Republican.

Unlike most of the rest of the people on this forum, when I vote for a person, I vote for what I feel he/she can will accomplish that will not only help me, but help the majority of people like me. I've voted for democrats. I've voted for republicans.

Wall Street is too big and powerful and needs to be reined in. It won't be, because it's too big and powerful.

It's sickening how much power they yield.

And the hypocrisy of the left of saying it's no big deal that Hillary made speeches to Wall Street and refuses to release the transcripts of those speeches is unreal to me. That's all I hear is how republicans are for the rich and powerful.

Wake up. So are the democrats!!!

And after the shenanigans the DNC pulled this year, not one democrat is getting my vote in November. They can all go to hell for destroying our democratic process.

I will NOT condone what happened by voting for any one of them. I will NOT reward their behavior by voting for any of them.

At least the Republicans were openly trying to get rid of Trump and doing it out in the open and not colluding in emails. I guess they have something to learn from the Democrats in 4 years. :smt011


Can't rep again!

Hey look at it like this, if shit is still fucked up maybe they can stop blaming bush lol

Can you imagine white people blaming Obama? Then you're a racist.
 
Can't rep again!

Hey look at it like this, if shit is still fucked up maybe they can stop blaming bush lol

Can you imagine white people blaming Obama? Then you're a racist.

If Hillary becomes President, they'll STILL be blaming Bush. :smt043:smt043
 
You can mail me mine too, then. Because I've never heard you complain when I've cheered your posts - heck, l even gave you a shout-out about your posts in the voice thread.

Let's not forget all the reps, too.

You're a funny man, AB.

Now when he goes in on me with tdk and ra then that's not cheerleading.
 
I honestly haven't figured that out yet. I may leave that blank and vote for down ticket races.

I'm leaning toward Jill Stein, but I know she has zero chance of winning.

So I am going to be candid about this. How do you not know? It has been almost a year. A lot of these people(Clinton and Trump) have been in the public eye for years. or is it that you are not sure between blank and someone because I understand that. I've written in my name in some cases when I didn't like either candidate.

I felt the same way about Sanders on zero chance at winning. I remember my brother couldn't tell who I would vote for in the primaries. I was surprised because I thought I was an easy book to read but given that I was the one who introduced him to Barack Obama. I might see why. I knew who would win in the democratic primary of 2016.

Didn't vote in the primary this year...... Your sentiments are felt by many on this forum about Clinton. I don't know of anyone on this forum that voted for Clinton in the 2008 democratic primaries.....
 
So I am going to be candid about this. How do you not know? It has been almost a year. A lot of these people(Clinton and Trump) have been in the public eye for years. or is it that you are not sure between blank and someone because I understand that. I've written in my name in some cases when I didn't like either candidate.

I felt the same way about Sanders on zero chance at winning. I remember my brother couldn't tell who I would vote for in the primaries. I was surprised because I thought I was an easy book to read but given that I was the one who introduced him to Barack Obama. I might see why. I knew who would win in the democratic primary of 2016.

Didn't vote in the primary this year...... Your sentiments are felt by many on this forum about Clinton. I don't know of anyone on this forum that voted for Clinton in the 2008 democratic primaries.....

We all know why she wasn't voted for though lol
 
Let me know when you have a meeting with FH.

I'll push 91 on my phone and wait.

That dude is not racist. He had no problems calling me racist names on this forum and I am black. You need to see his history since he has been here. You or the white person just happen to be his target at the time.

I'd honestly be concerned about your safety. TDK just cares passionately(so do you) about his opinion but that dude is something else. I'll leave it at that.

Noted and filed. Thanks.
I guess because l think we are mostly all adult here, it wouldn't cross the line..but some here have...so yeah..l retract my naivety.
 
I don't think RA would ever have a beer with you, tbh, or FH.


And you would be correct on both counts.

And for the record, just so everyone is clear, I have no problems with Paniro or anyone else's political or religious views because I'm not very big fan of either. Religion and politics are nothing more than tools used by the rich and powerful or those seeking riches and power to keep the masses in line IMO. So anyone riding too heavily on political or religious ideology on one extreme or another or the combination of both is already kind of suspect in my eyes out the gate. Especially if your into "battling" other people over political/religious issues while demanding that they "respect" you while doing it. WTF!!!

And the same thing goes for racial issues with me as well. If you're constantly vilifying other races for various things while excusing your own or other races for the same things or vice versa on any level, yeah, you're suspect.


So "No" I'm not having a drink with either one of those dudes. Don't need or want those headaches in my space if I have any say about it.
 
We all know why she wasn't voted for though lol

I know why I didn't vote for her. (coup d'etat' in Haiti(Bill Clinton), vote for Iraq war, etc)You tell me why you think other people didn't vote for her. Though I will point out generalizing is the wrong thing to do as people don't all think the same.
 
And you would be correct on both counts.

And for the record, just so everyone is clear, I have no problems with Paniro or anyone else's political or religious views because I'm not very big fan of either. Religion and politics are nothing more than tools used by the rich and powerful or those seeking riches and power to keep the masses in line IMO. So anyone riding too heavily on political or religious ideology on one extreme or another or the combination of both is already kind of suspect in my eyes out the gate. Especially if your into "battling" other people over political/religious issues while demanding that they "respect" you while doing it. WTF!!!

And the same thing goes for racial issues with me as well. If you're constantly vilifying other races for various things while excusing your own or other races for the same things or vice versa on any level, yeah, you're suspect.


So "No" I'm not having a drink with either one of those dudes. Don't need or want those headaches in my space if I have any say about it.

Well.......poo


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I know why I didn't vote for her. (coup d'etat' in Haiti(Bill Clinton), vote for Iraq war, etc)You tell me why you think other people didn't vote for her. Though I will point out generalizing is the wrong thing to do as people don't all think the same.

Of course people don't ALL think the same. But a good many did.
 
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